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    1. Re: [LEI] Memories
    2. J FLEETWOOD
    3. Continuing the theme of jobs, I find it hard to believe that my mother actually accompanied me as a chaparone & sat in on my first ever job interview at the Leicester Permanent Building Society on the corner of Bishops Street & Pocklingtons Walk. I got the job & met my future husband there, but as soon as we got engaged one of us had to leave. It was me & I had several jobs from then on. You were right Graham when you said that there were plenty of jobs around in the 50s & 60s. My last job that I left to have my first child paid me £8. OO a week. I worked in an office as a receptionist/Secretary on the Saffron Lane just below the Roundhill Library. My maternity pay in 1960 was about £30.OO, & in those days you had to find another job on your return to work after the birth. But we did get free orange juice, rose hip syrup & extra milk, but the first two were only available at the Clinic with coupon books. I remember taking my first baby to the chemist every week for her to be weighed. I still have the little weighing book, which I found with the family's ration books & identity cards from the war. Yes we actually had Identity Cards then. June From: Graham Jennings <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 23:13 Subject: Re: [LEI] Memories Bit of a change of tack but memories of your first job? I met with the careers advisor at the tender age of 14 and three quarters ( me that is not him) .”What would you like to do then” he said? Me, bright eyed and fresh faced naively said “ a radio & tv engineer  please”.  When the laughter had subsided and the tears wiped away he told me in no uncertain words that a secondary education did  not provide me with the qualities needed for that  that sort of career ,those jobs suited grammar school boys.  On the bright side however he could offer me an apprenticeship in a foundry or a sales opportunity  in the electrical department of  a high quality upmarket store . No contest, job in a suit please. I left school on a Thursday  and  the following Monday  entered the hallowed portals of Morgan Squires on market street. A sniffy department manager looked me up and down as i stood dressed in my slightly too large catalogue bought suit  , Lighting  he said ,you are  selling  lampshades!! What a throwback to days gone by ! I’m sure  the idea for “are you being served “ came from there . There was even a Mrs Slocomb character ,50 ish, bleached bouffant and plenty of  cheap perfume .She fawned over the the rich and looked down her nose at the man (or woman)who dared to come in off of the street , even though they paid with hard cash.The better off took items on appro , only to return most of it a month or so later often in a  used condition  .  I was paid £3.10s. 6d for a 5 1/2 day week , with a take home of £2.19s. I kept 30 bob and my mum had the rest. A commission scheme was in operation and you had your own pad of sales receipts. I did not get one as I left before the 3 months trial period was up . The Personnel dept offered me another half crown to stay but the lure of £4 .7s. 6d at the Co-op Hi Fi department on the  High Street  was too strong . I became a radio and tv engineer for the co-op ,so in a roundabout way i did get the job i originally wanted . That was 1965 and you could just wander from job to job if desired . What a change from today’s job scene. Lets hear some of the strange , odd or even bizarre  jobs people had in their early years of  employment. Graham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/16/2012 05:20:11
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories
    2. Graham Jennings
    3. Bit of a change of tack but memories of your first job? I met with the careers advisor at the tender age of 14 and three quarters ( me that is not him) .”What would you like to do then” he said? Me, bright eyed and fresh faced naively said “ a radio & tv engineer please”. When the laughter had subsided and the tears wiped away he told me in no uncertain words that a secondary education did not provide me with the qualities needed for that that sort of career ,those jobs suited grammar school boys. On the bright side however he could offer me an apprenticeship in a foundry or a sales opportunity in the electrical department of a high quality upmarket store . No contest, job in a suit please. I left school on a Thursday and the following Monday entered the hallowed portals of Morgan Squires on market street. A sniffy department manager looked me up and down as i stood dressed in my slightly too large catalogue bought suit , Lighting he said ,you are selling lampshades!! What a throwback to days gone by ! I’m sure the idea for “are you being served “ came from there . There was even a Mrs Slocomb character ,50 ish, bleached bouffant and plenty of cheap perfume .She fawned over the the rich and looked down her nose at the man (or woman)who dared to come in off of the street , even though they paid with hard cash.The better off took items on appro , only to return most of it a month or so later often in a used condition . I was paid £3.10s. 6d for a 5 1/2 day week , with a take home of £2.19s. I kept 30 bob and my mum had the rest. A commission scheme was in operation and you had your own pad of sales receipts. I did not get one as I left before the 3 months trial period was up . The Personnel dept offered me another half crown to stay but the lure of £4 .7s. 6d at the Co-op Hi Fi department on the High Street was too strong . I became a radio and tv engineer for the co-op ,so in a roundabout way i did get the job i originally wanted . That was 1965 and you could just wander from job to job if desired . What a change from today’s job scene. Lets hear some of the strange , odd or even bizarre jobs people had in their early years of employment. Graham

    02/16/2012 04:13:39
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories......
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Well it was far to complicated for a mere male :-) But this involved long lengths of "laggy" (elastic) two girls with a long length of joined elastic held by the ankles forming a sort or elongated rectangle The rest involved much crossing over of the elastic and skipping in and out of it but as I say, far to complicated for me I am sure someone with more knowledge of it will fill you in better than I can Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > OK, I'll bite... What in the world is playing elastics? Would I have > played this game under another name? > > Carolyn, in Minnesota, USA

    02/16/2012 03:28:10
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories the Saturday shopping trip Narborough rd and into Leicester
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Jan A subject I think has been talked about previously is that families had their own shopping haunts or even areas 50 or so years ago most areas had an almost self sufficient group of shops, long since decimated at best or completely gone all together with the onset of superstores, and city centre shopping "Malls" and out of town shopping parks Ours was a Saturday trip to Narborough road, starting at Dane Hills where there were a few shops my mum used, there was a hardware shop there I recall and a sewing shop (names evade me) Skerrits? on Dane Hills there was also a petrol station, I recall my father letting me put petrol in the car when I was quite young (not allowed now) I carefully put what I thought was 10/- worth in the car , my father was somewhat miffed to find I had actually put in 10 Gallons ! (I may be off on the actual measures but suffice to say it was a cock up) >From there we would go along Hinckley road which was then the main road in to Leicester from our side of Town and our route went by Western Park , through Dane Mills, up and over the hill and down to Braunstone Gate, you then went along under the bridge where Kirby and West was (is?) on Western Boulevard along by the Newarke Houses Museum, by the then ranks of bus shelters past the Magazine and up Newarke street towards where John Biggs statue was later erected >From there you could go left into Pocklingtons Walk, next left into Belvoir Street or right down Welford road towards "the Nick" (Leicester Gaol) On Narborough road we visited Clarks the Greengrocers, Hynard Hughes the off licence, Wedges the newsagent, Wraggs the Butchers, Norths was a favourite, for toys, long before they were more well known as a travel agent, round the corner on Narborough road was Leedhams for bikes and across the road Leavesleys for hardware in the old chapel, a little further down on the left was the watch mender, he sat in the shop window and you could stand outside and watch him mending clocks & watches which was fascinating Further in town we would often visit Belvoir street where there was my mothers favourite shop, Fenwicks, they had a yearly display in the window at Christmas which was always worth a visit as they had moving models (also not far from the Town Hall Square where they had a Christmas illuminated scene) Further down Belvoir street was Sports (who supplied school uniform & most interesting of all to me "air rifles") Over the road was the already mentioned Robothams toy shop (what an Alladins cave it was) and Cowlings the music shop, there was also a camera / telescope shop, there was also a little jewelers, on the same side further up was the Central Lending Library Also of great interest to me at the time was a little shop around the corner from Fenwicks called "Hamshaws" the cake shop :-) On some Saturdays mum would get a sponge they did with chocolate on the top, I remember it was sort of pre cut a little , it was a really delightful cake filled with fresh cream (I can taste it now :-) By the way Jan, Dandelion & Burdock is very much alive and kicking I just remembered another shop we frequently visited, Midland Educational, all manner of maps, stationery and where we bought geometry sets and fountain pens (we were not allowed to use biro's :-) Flic's wise we had the Cameo , the ABC, 2 Odeon's, the Picture House and the Fosse , there were more of course further out but it makes you realise how popular the cinema was Causy or Pad for the footpath , as to snobs & jacks, snobs were little cubes whereas jacks were three dimensions crosses made of metal (like little anti-tank obstacles) A croggie was giving a friend a lift on your bike, either on the back or on the crossbar, it could be dicey though :-) Coppers (I mean the Police :-) would pull you up for giving croggies and tell you off (obviously not enough to do back than) likewise if you rode your bike without lights A far cry from today isn't it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I never heard "causey" for a path. We did play snobs and, yes, they're jacks > in Oz. I also loved cycling round the villages out from Scraptoft, usually > Keyham, Hungerton, Barkby Thorpe, Barkby, South Croxton, Beeby and others. > Also often went up the Uppingham Rd as far as Tugby or turned off and went > to Tilton and Halstead. Not sure what a croggie was but I had a saddlebag > and also a basket on the front of my bike. Great for doing the errands and > we could just leave our bikes outside the shops in those days, didn't get > stolen. >

    02/16/2012 01:46:39
    1. Re: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841
    2. Gill Goddard
    3. Hi. Do any of these cook people connect to the Cooks in South Croxton it's not that far away. Gill. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emma Faulkner Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841 Hi all If you look in the 1841 census for Syston, you'll find a William and Maria Cook on what looks like Highway Road. William's profession is listed as Publican. I've not been able to exactly pinpoint which pub this is, but I seem to remember the closest one I found is what is now the Midland, which is near the railway bridge. It looks like there's a butchers' next door. Does anyone have any old lists or anything that might shed any light on which pub it was? The road no longer exists... Thanks all! PS as I've renewed my Ancestry membership I'm happy to do the odd lookup again :) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/16/2012 01:04:18
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. More memories! Don't remember the word "jitty" in Leicester but once read it was used in southern England the same way. We had an ice cream van in the 1940s, or it could have been early 1950s, but I was still a child when I and other children went up for it. 1950s were my teenage years. I remember I know rationing affected sweets until 1953 and my mother always bought each of us in the family our weekly ration. There was no sacrificing of adults' rations for me, the only child. Lots of kids at school had kali (sure I've seen it spelt differently somewhere on another list, kahli I think) but I didn't especially want it and didn't realise it was off ration. Only knew of the finger dipping, nothing about licorice tubes or lollies to eat it with. Knew licorice sticks and also licorice root, but I didn't/don't like licorice myself. Thanks, June, for the explanation of the revolving drum in the window. I guessed it was grinding coffee or something like that, but we never had coffee at home until later. Also Mum never took me for a snack in a cafe when shopping; would have loved that! Certainly do it now! Later, in the '50s and '60s I did go to Bruccianis quite often and, for a long time, after choir practice on Friday evenings at Bishop St Church. Great to know they're still there and the ice cream menu looks really yummy. I never heard "causey" for a path. We did play snobs and, yes, they're jacks in Oz. I also loved cycling round the villages out from Scraptoft, usually Keyham, Hungerton, Barkby Thorpe, Barkby, South Croxton, Beeby and others. Also often went up the Uppingham Rd as far as Tugby or turned off and went to Tilton and Halstead. Not sure what a croggie was but I had a saddlebag and also a basket on the front of my bike. Great for doing the errands and we could just leave our bikes outside the shops in those days, didn't get stolen. My Mum was born and bred in Lincoln and sometimes called me and other kids "Duck", but thankfully not "me duck"! Remember the whale and going to see it with Mum, but didn't realise it had a name. Haven't heard the one about "standing on C&A corner" but in Sydney it's "up the Cross" - King's Cross, once a great suburb for a night out but now a nest of druggies and suchlike! In our suburban area the clop of hooves and the shout : "Rag Bone" was happening even in the early 1960s. Also the "Breton onion sellers" came around on their bikes with the onions in net bags over their shoulders. And the window cleaner used to come each Friday evening just as I got home from work and I couldn't change my clothes until he'd done my bedroom window! I could have gone to the Saturday morning ABC Minors films at the Trocadero, a mile from where I lived, but my friend and myself were not really interested as we had so many things to keep us busy - including lots of fishing for sticklebacks, "stonies", tadpoles, newts etc. I remember trying to race the newts on the lawn but they all went in different directions. Also, when they began to build Nether Hall Estate we went to our usual tadpole pond to find it had been dug out and a pipe put through it. There was lots of frogspawn in the small amount of water remaining. So we went home and returned another day with buckets to "rescue" ALL the frogspawn in case the pond was filled in before the tadpoles had developed. Our mothers thought that a great joke but these days government funds would probably be allocated for such a rescue! Loved Dandelion and Burdock. Presumably it isn't available there now? Re family members migrating to London, my father's family had done so in the early 1900s. For us, migrating to Australia was much the same, learning different words for several things. "Cots" in hair are called "knots" here, more sensible I suppose. I remember plenty of "ooyers" and very occasionally still come out with it, mostly if I hurt myself or something like that! Re mardy, the insulting rhyme I remember was: "Mardy mardy mustard, yer face is like a custard". I read the Dandy and Beano regularly, as well as several other comics. We went to Humberstone Park sometimes (fished there too) and the "playground" behind Humberstone school, complete with the usual grumpy parky. We were also taken there at lunchtime from school quite often in summer. The lions were there in 2001, as a fountain in the Town Hall Square, which is how I always remember them from mid 1940s onwards. I never got inside any of those cafs, except Bruccianis in later years. Nivard: John says "Agreed - Up the City to win!". Obviously you still follow them from Cornwall! That's a lovely summer picture of the lion fountain on the website you recommended. I passed them every Sunday on the way to Bishop St Church. I have a postcard, from the Information Centre now near the Town Hall Square, of the fountain totally frozen over. Don't ever remember seeing it like that in real life, though, despite some cold winters. "Wet playtime" for me was just myself in the house with Grandpa, Mum being at work. Often I called for my friend next door and she came in to play with me. I remember that, while I had just nipped round in my indoor clothes, my friend's mother insisted she dress up in waterproofs and wellies just to come next door! Plenty of people played conkers and John has fond memories of that. We girls played skipping but I don't remember the one with elastic round the ankles - what WOULD Health & Safety say???!!! I loved the museum too, mainly the stuffed animals, and after shopping my treat was either a visit to the museum in New Walk, to Rowbotham's toy shop (rarely anything bought, though) or to the fish market to see the animals. After walking through the very smelly fish market itself we saw lots of day-old chicks and ducklings and some kittens and puppies. Queniborough to me was just one of the villages I cycled to. They were all beautiful villages and it was before they became commuter bases. I think I've finally caught up with the deluge of "memories" emails bombarding me these last few days, having been out all or part of each day, so here's my latest, rather long, contribution. Jan in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Faulkner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect Without reading the whole thread, can I assume "jitty" has been mentioned? Means alleyway. Also "mardy", although I gather from my other half that it's not exclusively Leicester. Theres a page somewhere on the BBC Leicester site with a load of words and phrases (some of which are obvious rubbish, mind) to which I contributed a few - I'll try and find it. With regards to cobs, baps and rolls - my understanding as a kid was that a cob was a crusty bap and a roll was a long bun. And a bun was/is actually a loaf. :S All a bit confusing, probably made worse for me as I had a half cockney mother and a Kentish father, both of whom were also ex-Navy so used some nautical slang. On 13 February 2012 17:46, Lesley Chaney <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Listers, There's a word my Leicester born husband grew up with and which his sister still uses. I don't know how it should be spelt but is spoken as "kay-lie" and means sherbet or sherbet dabs. My husband will sometimes come out with, "Okie Pokie, penny a lump." I don't remember ice cream being available in the 1940s, no doubt because of rationing. Ice cream vans made their appearance in the 1950s. Lesley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4810 - Release Date: 02/14/12

    02/16/2012 12:25:29
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories......
    2. Emma Faulkner
    3. Amazed you can remember that! I didn't skip, I played elastics but I can't remember much about the rules, let alone the songs or chants! Sent from my mobile device, please excuse lack of formatting. On 16 Feb 2012, at 17:18, J FLEETWOOD <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Pamela. > > The version we sang was :- > On the hill there stands a lady > who she is I do not know > all she wants is gold & silver > all she wants is a nice young man > so come to me...........fair ( & here your chosen named friend joins you in the skipping rope & after a few skips, you left the rope & the song began again. > > Unfortunately that is the only rhyme I can remember. > > June > > > From: Pamela Simmons <[email protected]> > To: 'J FLEETWOOD' <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 14:37 > Subject: RE: [LEI] Memories...... > > On the hill there stands a lady, who she is I do not know etc....... > In Lancashire we sang ...... > > .all she wants is gold and silver > All she wants is a nice young man > Choose your lover > Choose your lover > Choose your lover fair maid > Pamela x > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/16/2012 10:23:31
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories......
    2. J FLEETWOOD
    3. Thank you Pamela.   The version we sang was :- On the hill there stands a lady who she is I do not know all she wants is gold & silver all she wants is a nice young man so come to me...........fair ( & here your chosen named friend joins you in the skipping rope & after a few skips, you left the rope & the song began again.   Unfortunately that is the only rhyme I can remember.   June   From: Pamela Simmons <[email protected]> To: 'J FLEETWOOD' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 14:37 Subject: RE: [LEI] Memories...... On the hill there stands a lady, who she is I do not know etc....... In Lancashire we sang ...... .all she wants is gold and silver All she wants is a nice young man Choose your lover Choose your lover Choose your lover fair maid Pamela x

    02/16/2012 10:18:17
    1. Re: [LEI] census look up please ?
    2. Hi Keith, I do not think that I missed these last time but I will certainly look again for you. Regards Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:leicestershire- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of keith Hammond > Sent: 15 February 2012 09:17 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEI] census look up please ? > > Hi, > can any kind person please help with 2 census lookups ? > > 1 1861 census HENRY WILLETT born 1844 at hugglescote > 2 1871 census FREDERICK WILLETT born hugglescote 1847. > > Any help would please be so very kind. THANK YOU. > > Keith in Malta. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

    02/16/2012 09:57:12
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories
    2. Dennis Underwood
    3. I must have seen you on several occasions - living in one of the police houses in Broad Street next to the Newsagents wooden shop then. Very good shows. Dennis On 15/02/2012 22:40, Peter HOLMES wrote: > Now that I remember! > > Next to de la Rue's jewellers - both on Melton Road if I'm not mistaken > (unless Dodwells was the one down near the market square). > > I was a member of the 1st Syston (10th Leicester) Cubs then scouts for > several years and specifically remember 3 things Armistice Day parades (so > cold I wore 2 pairs of shorts and at least 2 layers under the uniform shirt > or jumper), Easter and August camps and of course the Gang Show in the > Oxford Street hall (was still there when we visited in 2010). Was anyone > entertained by me& my contemporaries in about 1961 to 1966? > > Peter Holmes > Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes > [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then > Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. > [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire& Nottinghamshire)] [FREER > (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT& WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N& S Kyme, N& S > Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada > & some in New York& Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless > stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:48 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] Memories > > Six-pennourth of chips in newspaper from Dodwells. What heaven ! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: 02/15/12

    02/16/2012 09:46:37
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories......
    2. Charles Sidebottom
    3. OK, I'll bite... What in the world is playing elastics? Would I have played this game under another name? Carolyn, in Minnesota, USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emma Faulkner Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:24 AM To: J FLEETWOOD; [email protected] Cc: leicestershire[email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] Memories...... Amazed you can remember that! I didn't skip, I played elastics but I can't remember much about the rules, let alone the songs or chants! Sent from my mobile device, please excuse lack of formatting. On 16 Feb 2012, at 17:18, J FLEETWOOD <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Pamela.

    02/16/2012 09:17:37
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories
    2. See http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/uploads/84da60f09c2909729933082.pdf for a fascinating account of life in Syston between 1908 and 1930 by Bill FREER. It mentions quite a few names, including COOK, and finishes with a note by one of his sons. Jill

    02/16/2012 08:28:37
    1. Re: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841
    2. Emma Faulkner
    3. hi Jill Yeah I found my post earlier today when I was searching. Can't find a record of any pubs on Highway Road, even if I search under Thurmaston which is where the top end was. Having looked through some contemporary directories I also can't find a pub with William Cook as the landlord, apart from the Stag & Pheasant in Melton. I'm wondering if maybe he'd retired by 1841 but gave "publican" as his trade anyway. I think it'll take a bit of detective work to figure it all out... On 16 February 2012 14:46, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Emma, > > I seem to remember your earlier post about this : > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS/2007-05/11 > 79155618 > > The pub was more likely to have been the Midland as it was evidently close > to the station (page 1 on that set of returns). > > Jill > > ------------------------ > On 16 February 2012 11:50 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841 > > You wrote : > > > If you look in the 1841 census for Syston, you'll find a William and > Maria > Cook on > > what looks like Highway Road. William's profession is listed as Publican. > > I've not been able to exactly pinpoint which pub this is, but I seem to > remember the closest > > one I found is what is now the Midland, which is near the railway bridge. > > >It looks like there's a butchers' next door. > > >Does anyone have any old lists or anything that might shed any light on > which pub it was? > >The road no longer exists... > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/16/2012 07:52:25
    1. Re: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841
    2. Hi Emma, I seem to remember your earlier post about this : http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS/2007-05/11 79155618 The pub was more likely to have been the Midland as it was evidently close to the station (page 1 on that set of returns). Jill ------------------------ On 16 February 2012 11:50 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841 You wrote : > If you look in the 1841 census for Syston, you'll find a William and Maria Cook on > what looks like Highway Road. William's profession is listed as Publican. > I've not been able to exactly pinpoint which pub this is, but I seem to remember the closest > one I found is what is now the Midland, which is near the railway bridge. >It looks like there's a butchers' next door. >Does anyone have any old lists or anything that might shed any light on which pub it was? >The road no longer exists...

    02/16/2012 07:46:02
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories......
    2. Pamela Simmons
    3. On the hill there stands a lady, who she is I do not know etc....... In Lancashire we sang ...... .all she wants is gold and silver All she wants is a nice young man Choose your lover Choose your lover Choose your lover fair maid Pamela x

    02/16/2012 07:37:17
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories
    2. J FLEETWOOD
    3. Ellen, Why don't you go on list & start the ball rolling...................  It only takes one e-mail & then sit back & await the response.   Unfortunately, although I now live in West Yorkshire, I do not have any connections here so have no memories to relate. June Fleetwood (nee Rainbow) West Yorkshire From: Ellen Murray <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2012, 18:27 Subject: [LEI] Memories As one of those Listers who has never been there, am enjoying every word.  Wish a few other Lists where my Ancestors came from would do the same, (Hartlepool - Durham Co & Huddersfield - W. Yorkshire) Thanks for the memories. Ellen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/16/2012 05:38:31
    1. Re: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841
    2. Emma Faulkner
    3. Hi Gill It's possible, but the only record I've got for William is the 1841 census which doesn't state birthplace. His wife Maria was born in Mansfield according to the 1851 census so it's possible that William was from there too.His age in 1841 was given as 70, and Maria's as 50. Actually this is a bit of a brick wall for me as I've never managed to find out where they got married, where William's from, and why John Martin, listed as Maria's nephew, is shown as living with her in 1851 - what happened to his parents and via what branch is he her nephew?? I've not had much of a chance to explore the new records on Ancestry so I'm hoping I'll find some of teh answers on there... On 16 February 2012 12:04, Gill Goddard <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi. Do any of these cook people connect to the Cooks in South Croxton it's > not that far away. Gill. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emma > Faulkner > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841 > > Hi all > > If you look in the 1841 census for Syston, you'll find a William and Maria > Cook on what looks like Highway Road. William's profession is listed as > Publican. I've not been able to exactly pinpoint which pub this is, but I > seem to remember the closest one I found is what is now the Midland, which > is near the railway bridge. > > It looks like there's a butchers' next door. > > Does anyone have any old lists or anything that might shed any light on > which pub it was? The road no longer exists... > > Thanks all! > > PS as I've renewed my Ancestry membership I'm happy to do the odd lookup > again :) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/16/2012 05:10:57
    1. [LEI] Syston - pub on "Highway Road" in 1841
    2. Emma Faulkner
    3. Hi all If you look in the 1841 census for Syston, you'll find a William and Maria Cook on what looks like Highway Road. William's profession is listed as Publican. I've not been able to exactly pinpoint which pub this is, but I seem to remember the closest one I found is what is now the Midland, which is near the railway bridge. It looks like there's a butchers' next door. Does anyone have any old lists or anything that might shed any light on which pub it was? The road no longer exists... Thanks all! PS as I've renewed my Ancestry membership I'm happy to do the odd lookup again :)

    02/16/2012 04:50:10
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories (William Cook, publican, Syston)
    2. Emma Faulkner
    3. Aha, well they probably knew each other at least! In fact with Maria being a schoolmistress she may even have taught him :) On 16 February 2012 11:36, fabis <[email protected]> wrote: > I have got the facts wrapped around my neck Emma, I have just had a look > at my tree again and its not as I remembered. I have not done any > research for ages now but I now see David North was not a publican, > where I got that one from I dont know. > David was born in Gaddesby in 1837 in 1881 he was in syston with his > wife Matilda, his occupation at that time was a Master Butcher and he > was living on High Street > > > Margaret > > > On 16/02/2012 11:06, Emma Faulkner wrote: > > Hi again Margaret > > > > Just renewed my Ancestry sub so I could look it up! William and Maria > Cook, > > Highway Road in Syston in 1841. He's down as a publican. By the 1851 > census > > he's dead and she's a "Pauper Schoolmistress", and her nephew John Martin > > is living with her. At some point I really must do some more digging > around > > this bit of my tree! > > > > Em > > > > On 16 February 2012 09:02, Emma Faulkner<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Margaret > >> > >> I seem to recall her surname was Cook, can't remember the first name. > One > >> of my great-great etc etc Grandads lived with her - he, as with that > entire > >> direct line, was somewhat imaginatively called John Martin.. He was a > young > >> lad and it looked like his parents had died. When he was living with her > >> she was a teacher but I vaguely remember finding her earlier running > what I > >> *think* is now the Midland pub. I think it was then called the Railway? > >> Unfortunately i've not got access to the censuses etc any more to double > >> check my info and I hadn't finished researching that bit properly so > it's > >> not in my GenesReunited tree. Really must get an external hard drive and > >> collate all my research! > >> > >> Emma > >> > >> > >> On 16 February 2012 08:11, fabis<[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Interesting Emma, what was they name? > >>> > >>> Margaret > >>> > >>> > >>> On 15/02/2012 18:57, Emma Faulkner wrote: > >>>> Margaret, by coincidence one of my ancestors ran/worked in the Midland > >>> pub in Syston :-) > >>>> Sent from my mobile device, please excuse lack of formatting. > >>>> > >>>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 18:54, fabis<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I have connections with Syston too with the North side of my family, > If > >>>>> I remember correctly David North ran a pub in the village. Pubs seem > >>> to > >>>>> run in the family on both my mum's side and also my dad's > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Margaret > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 15/02/2012 17:48, [email protected] wrote: > >>>>>> There seems to be strong Queniborough lobby on the list. Anyone from > >>> Syston > >>>>>> still subscribing? I spent the first, very impressionable half of my > >>>>>> childhood there, and the second half in Newtown Linford. Chalk and > >>> cheese, > >>>>>> those two villages. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Syston sounds (and smells) : - > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A Sunday morning 'procession'. You could hear the band heading with > >>> its > >>>>>> banners and bigwigs down High Street towards the Church in good > >>> enough time > >>>>>> to dash out and march beside it along with Coco, the ginger mongrel > >>> from > >>>>>> Bath Street, and his piebald chum, Jacko, who'd jump up and bite > the > >>> large > >>>>>> wholemeal I'd been sent to collect from Barnacles on the Green. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Church clock striking backwards, or so we were told. (And its > >>> Vicar, the > >>>>>> Reverend Haddlesey, who hatched, matched and despatched so many of > >>> us, would > >>>>>> sit backwards on his bike and ride it just like that all the way to > >>> the top > >>>>>> of Bath Street.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The moan of the stink lorry as it headed for the houses with outside > >>> lavvies > >>>>>> in the back yards (only the Very Prim called them 'toilets' in those > >>> days) > >>>>>> to empty the buckets; and the snap of windows closing on its > >>> malodorous > >>>>>> approach. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The clop of hooves and the shout : "Rag Bone ...... Any old Rag > >>> Bone....?" > >>>>>> The sluggish shunting of steam engines on hot summer evenings and > the > >>>>>> wondrous smell of hot pennies that we'd left on the line to be > >>> squashed by > >>>>>> the down train. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Six-pennourth of chips in newspaper from Dodwells. What heaven ! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jill > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- > >>>>>> No virus found in this message. > >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4810 - Release Date: > >>> 02/14/12 > >>>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> ----- > >>>> No virus found in this message. > >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: > >>> 02/15/12 > >>>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4812 - Release Date: 02/15/12 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/16/2012 04:42:08
    1. Re: [LEI] Memories (William Cook, publican, Syston)
    2. fabis
    3. I have got the facts wrapped around my neck Emma, I have just had a look at my tree again and its not as I remembered. I have not done any research for ages now but I now see David North was not a publican, where I got that one from I dont know. David was born in Gaddesby in 1837 in 1881 he was in syston with his wife Matilda, his occupation at that time was a Master Butcher and he was living on High Street Margaret On 16/02/2012 11:06, Emma Faulkner wrote: > Hi again Margaret > > Just renewed my Ancestry sub so I could look it up! William and Maria Cook, > Highway Road in Syston in 1841. He's down as a publican. By the 1851 census > he's dead and she's a "Pauper Schoolmistress", and her nephew John Martin > is living with her. At some point I really must do some more digging around > this bit of my tree! > > Em > > On 16 February 2012 09:02, Emma Faulkner<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Margaret >> >> I seem to recall her surname was Cook, can't remember the first name. One >> of my great-great etc etc Grandads lived with her - he, as with that entire >> direct line, was somewhat imaginatively called John Martin.. He was a young >> lad and it looked like his parents had died. When he was living with her >> she was a teacher but I vaguely remember finding her earlier running what I >> *think* is now the Midland pub. I think it was then called the Railway? >> Unfortunately i've not got access to the censuses etc any more to double >> check my info and I hadn't finished researching that bit properly so it's >> not in my GenesReunited tree. Really must get an external hard drive and >> collate all my research! >> >> Emma >> >> >> On 16 February 2012 08:11, fabis<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Interesting Emma, what was they name? >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> On 15/02/2012 18:57, Emma Faulkner wrote: >>>> Margaret, by coincidence one of my ancestors ran/worked in the Midland >>> pub in Syston :-) >>>> Sent from my mobile device, please excuse lack of formatting. >>>> >>>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 18:54, fabis<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have connections with Syston too with the North side of my family, If >>>>> I remember correctly David North ran a pub in the village. Pubs seem >>> to >>>>> run in the family on both my mum's side and also my dad's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Margaret >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 15/02/2012 17:48, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> There seems to be strong Queniborough lobby on the list. Anyone from >>> Syston >>>>>> still subscribing? I spent the first, very impressionable half of my >>>>>> childhood there, and the second half in Newtown Linford. Chalk and >>> cheese, >>>>>> those two villages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Syston sounds (and smells) : - >>>>>> >>>>>> A Sunday morning 'procession'. You could hear the band heading with >>> its >>>>>> banners and bigwigs down High Street towards the Church in good >>> enough time >>>>>> to dash out and march beside it along with Coco, the ginger mongrel >>> from >>>>>> Bath Street, and his piebald chum, Jacko, who'd jump up and bite the >>> large >>>>>> wholemeal I'd been sent to collect from Barnacles on the Green. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Church clock striking backwards, or so we were told. (And its >>> Vicar, the >>>>>> Reverend Haddlesey, who hatched, matched and despatched so many of >>> us, would >>>>>> sit backwards on his bike and ride it just like that all the way to >>> the top >>>>>> of Bath Street.) >>>>>> >>>>>> The moan of the stink lorry as it headed for the houses with outside >>> lavvies >>>>>> in the back yards (only the Very Prim called them 'toilets' in those >>> days) >>>>>> to empty the buckets; and the snap of windows closing on its >>> malodorous >>>>>> approach. >>>>>> >>>>>> The clop of hooves and the shout : "Rag Bone ...... Any old Rag >>> Bone....?" >>>>>> The sluggish shunting of steam engines on hot summer evenings and the >>>>>> wondrous smell of hot pennies that we'd left on the line to be >>> squashed by >>>>>> the down train. >>>>>> >>>>>> Six-pennourth of chips in newspaper from Dodwells. What heaven ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Jill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4810 - Release Date: >>> 02/14/12 >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: >>> 02/15/12 >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4812 - Release Date: 02/15/12 > >

    02/16/2012 04:36:54