Hi Geraldine, This question crops up surprisingly often. If you search the Rootsweb archives across all lists, you'll find various possibilities suggested, including a maker of cane chairs and even a woman who carried sedan chairs ! However, my vote goes to the view put forward by Rod Neep, the founder of Archive CD Books, who said, on the Gloucester list on 31st March 1999, the following: For some odd reason "chairwoman" seems to appear in a lot of census transcripts rather than the real (or perhaps it is just the modern variation?) word - charwoman - a woman who cleans the house and does general chores. Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geraldine Bancroft Sent: 03 March 2012 17:10 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] Occupation Hi Listers Over the years I have come across an occupation, usually of widows, given as chairwoman & assumed this was a different spelling of charwoman or a transcription error if the original was not seen. Is this in fact correct? If not what is the difference? Why is this not included in the old occupations lists? I know this is a minor point but I felt the need to ask after coming across one again today and there is definitely an i in the word. Geraldine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, i have a william Alldread on the 1901 census living at standard hill ravenstone aged 32 born whitwick and also wife Hannah Mary aged 29 born hugglescote children Agnes aged 5 and son Leslie aged 2 can you please help me find them 1911 census and if possible a copy of the image ? Thanks for your great kindness and help. Keith in Malta.

Keith, They are living in Market Bosworth, at The Green Plough Inn, Markfield: ALLDREAD, William Head Married M 43 1868 Coal Miner Hewer Coalville Leicestershire ALLDREAD, Hannah M Wife Married 18 years F 39 1872 Beerhouse Keeper Donington Le Heath Leicestershire ALLDREAD, Agnes Daughter Single F 15 1896 Assisting In The Business Leics Hugglecote ALLDREAD, Leslie Son Single M 12 1899 School Leics Hugglecote Gerry On 4 Mar 2012, at 09:45, keith Hammond wrote: > Hi, > i have a william Alldread on the 1901 census living at standard hill ravenstone aged 32 born whitwick and also wife Hannah Mary aged 29 born hugglescote children Agnes aged 5 and son Leslie aged 2 can you please help me find them 1911 census and if possible a copy of the image ? Thanks for your great kindness and help. > > Keith in Malta. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Geraldine If you can give the census references for the occasions where you have found it we can double check for you The occupation will almost certainly be Charwoman ie as OED puts it A woman hired by the day to do odd jobs of household work. Older spellings were Charewoman or Chairwoman but all mean the same thing Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Listers > > Over the years I have come across an occupation, usually of widows, given as chairwoman & assumed > this was a different spelling of charwoman or a transcription error if the original was not seen. > Is this in fact correct? If not what is the difference? Why is this not included in the old > occupations lists? > > I know this is a minor point but I felt the need to ask after coming across one again today and > there is definitely an i in the word. > > > Geraldine

Hi Listers Over the years I have come across an occupation, usually of widows, given as chairwoman & assumed this was a different spelling of charwoman or a transcription error if the original was not seen. Is this in fact correct? If not what is the difference? Why is this not included in the old occupations lists? I know this is a minor point but I felt the need to ask after coming across one again today and there is definitely an i in the word. Geraldine

Elizabeth There is no rush, so sorry to hear your babies have been sick, my best wishes for their quick recovery. Have been reviewing my research William & Elizabeth Elliott also lost the following children buried at St Mary's. Ann Elliott died 11 July 1812 aged 6 years Susan Elliott died 25 Oct 1809 aged 9 days Ann died 4 Jun 1823 aged 5 years then of course the mother Elizabeth died 14 Sep 1829. You are welcome to contact me off the list [email protected] Thank you Marg Elliott

Reply-sorry; Clifton died in 2010 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karin Sent: March-02-12 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 74 Hello John, I know that in my own research Joanna SHIPLEY has been referred to as Joan, Joanne, Johanne, Johanna-census and removal orders from different parishes. I don't know what has happened to Clifton's sources and/or resources; I do know that everything he steered me towards was accurate but I don't know what happened to his information after his death in 2009. There may be more information on the WOOLMAN-L archives. Sorry I can't help further; if you are also in the line of descent from Samuel, I might have more info but it depends on who and where Regards Karin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Woolman Sent: March-02-12 6:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 74 Hi Karin I had a look at Clifton WOOLMAN's files which are very comprehensive. He lists John WOOLMAN-2047 (b.1777;d.1848) as marrying Elizabeth FRENCH-2084 (b.1776;m.1802;d.1841) and as being a child of John WOOLMAN -1993 (b.1736;d.1809) sp: Ann NEAL-1994 (b.1753;m.1773) He also lists John WOOLMAN-2047 (b.1777;d.1848) as being a brother of your husband's Samuel WOOLMAN-1529 (b.1790;d.1875) (although he lists his wife as Jane not Joanne) sp: Jane SHIPLEY-1992 (b.1790;m.1810;d.1851) I presume his sources are the parish records and are held on his main database. Do you know if it is possible to check any of them? Regards John Woolman - John Goffe Woolman-1007 (b.1948) "My husband's mother was a WOOLMAN from Leicester whose ancestors were at both Smeeton Westerby and Kibworth Beauchamp. The late Clifton WOOLMAN in the US did a remarkable job tracking Leicestershire Woolman from about 1570 onward. I didn't check for your names, but you can have a look at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mydickfamily/woolman_html/ woolman4.htm My husband's line was through Samuel WOOLMAN/Joanne SHIPLEY; a distant cousin in the UK provided some pauper's orders against the couple; it's been fascinating seeing how the descendants moved into the US and Southern Cross. Regards Karin Duncan" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karin   Thank you for the access to the WOOLMAN site which I found a very interesting read.   It is very impressive but I, like John WOOLMAN, would like to know the origin of the data if at all possible.   Is there any record for the research? I do have the Parish Records & Census Records but some of the data differs slightly.   I also have a connection through the SHIPLEYs of Leicestershire.   Your help is greatly appreciated.   Regards   June           From: Karin <[email protected]> To: 'J FLEETWOOD' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012, 0:29 Subject: RE: [LEI] The WOOLMANS of Smeeton Westerby & Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Leicestershire My husband's mother was a WOOLMAN from Leicester whose ancestors were at both Semeeton Westerby and Kibworth Beauchamp.  The late Clifton WOOLMAN in the US did a remarkable job tracking Leicestershire Woolman from about 1570 onward.  I didn't check for your names, but you can have a look at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mydickfamily/woolman_html/ woolman4.htm My husband's line was through Samuel WOOLMAN/Joanne SHIPLEY; a distant cousin in the UK provided some pauper's orders against the couple; it's been fascinating seeing how the descendants moved into the US and Southern Cross. Regards Karin Duncan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J FLEETWOOD Sent: March-01-12 7:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] The WOOLMANS of Smeeton Westerby & Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Leicestershire Hi Listers   Is anyone researching the WOOLMAN family?   On checking my database I have found a few queries regarding children with the same names & to whom they are married.   These differencies affect the generation born in the 1770's so it can be difficult to confirm the accuracy of data, especially where marriages do not give parents names, & only the father's name is recorded for baptisms/christenings in the Parish Records.   For example a John WOOLMAN married Elizabeth FRENCH on 21 december 1802.   Is this John the son of William WOOLMAN & Ann GREEN who was christened 25 October 1773, or the son of  John WOOLMAN & Anne NEAL who was christened 8 November 1778.   OR/ is this the John WOOLMAN who married Mary COX on 15 February 1801.   There also appears to be a conflict of names for a William WOOLMAN b.c.1750 son of Jeptha WOOLMAN & Anne GOODMAN (his first wife) who is shown as marrying a Mary HODGKINSON (HODGKIN) or Ann GREEN.   The family trees published on Ancestry are contradictory also.   Any help with this would be most welcome.   June Fleetwood West Yorkshire. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John, I know that in my own research Joanna SHIPLEY has been referred to as Joan, Joanne, Johanne, Johanna-census and removal orders from different parishes. I don't know what has happened to Clifton's sources and/or resources; I do know that everything he steered me towards was accurate but I don't know what happened to his information after his death in 2009. There may be more information on the WOOLMAN-L archives. Sorry I can't help further; if you are also in the line of descent from Samuel, I might have more info but it depends on who and where Regards Karin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Woolman Sent: March-02-12 6:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 74 Hi Karin I had a look at Clifton WOOLMAN's files which are very comprehensive. He lists John WOOLMAN-2047 (b.1777;d.1848) as marrying Elizabeth FRENCH-2084 (b.1776;m.1802;d.1841) and as being a child of John WOOLMAN -1993 (b.1736;d.1809) sp: Ann NEAL-1994 (b.1753;m.1773) He also lists John WOOLMAN-2047 (b.1777;d.1848) as being a brother of your husband's Samuel WOOLMAN-1529 (b.1790;d.1875) (although he lists his wife as Jane not Joanne) sp: Jane SHIPLEY-1992 (b.1790;m.1810;d.1851) I presume his sources are the parish records and are held on his main database. Do you know if it is possible to check any of them? Regards John Woolman - John Goffe Woolman-1007 (b.1948) "My husband's mother was a WOOLMAN from Leicester whose ancestors were at both Smeeton Westerby and Kibworth Beauchamp. The late Clifton WOOLMAN in the US did a remarkable job tracking Leicestershire Woolman from about 1570 onward. I didn't check for your names, but you can have a look at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mydickfamily/woolman_html/ woolman4.htm My husband's line was through Samuel WOOLMAN/Joanne SHIPLEY; a distant cousin in the UK provided some pauper's orders against the couple; it's been fascinating seeing how the descendants moved into the US and Southern Cross. Regards Karin Duncan" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karin I had a look at Clifton WOOLMAN's files which are very comprehensive. He lists John WOOLMAN-2047 (b.1777;d.1848) as marrying Elizabeth FRENCH-2084 (b.1776;m.1802;d.1841) and as being a child of John WOOLMAN -1993 (b.1736;d.1809) sp: Ann NEAL-1994 (b.1753;m.1773) He also lists John WOOLMAN-2047 (b.1777;d.1848) as being a brother of your husband's Samuel WOOLMAN-1529 (b.1790;d.1875) (although he lists his wife as Jane not Joanne) sp: Jane SHIPLEY-1992 (b.1790;m.1810;d.1851) I presume his sources are the parish records and are held on his main database. Do you know if it is possible to check any of them? Regards John Woolman - John Goffe Woolman-1007 (b.1948) "My husband's mother was a WOOLMAN from Leicester whose ancestors were at both Smeeton Westerby and Kibworth Beauchamp. The late Clifton WOOLMAN in the US did a remarkable job tracking Leicestershire Woolman from about 1570 onward. I didn't check for your names, but you can have a look at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mydickfamily/woolman_html/ woolman4.htm My husband's line was through Samuel WOOLMAN/Joanne SHIPLEY; a distant cousin in the UK provided some pauper's orders against the couple; it's been fascinating seeing how the descendants moved into the US and Southern Cross. Regards Karin Duncan"

Hi Listers   Is anyone researching the WOOLMAN family?   On checking my database I have found a few queries regarding children with the same names & to whom they are married.   These differencies affect the generation born in the 1770's so it can be difficult to confirm the accuracy of data, especially where marriages do not give parents names, & only the father's name is recorded for baptisms/christenings in the Parish Records.   For example a John WOOLMAN married Elizabeth FRENCH on 21 december 1802.   Is this John the son of William WOOLMAN & Ann GREEN who was christened 25 October 1773, or the son of  John WOOLMAN & Anne NEAL who was christened 8 November 1778.   OR/ is this the John WOOLMAN who married Mary COX on 15 February 1801.   There also appears to be a conflict of names for a William WOOLMAN b.c.1750 son of Jeptha WOOLMAN & Anne GOODMAN (his first wife) who is shown as marrying a Mary HODGKINSON (HODGKIN) or Ann GREEN.   The family trees published on Ancestry are contradictory also.   Any help with this would be most welcome.   June Fleetwood West Yorkshire.

My husband's mother was a WOOLMAN from Leicester whose ancestors were at both Semeeton Westerby and Kibworth Beauchamp. The late Clifton WOOLMAN in the US did a remarkable job tracking Leicestershire Woolman from about 1570 onward. I didn't check for your names, but you can have a look at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mydickfamily/woolman_html/ woolman4.htm My husband's line was through Samuel WOOLMAN/Joanne SHIPLEY; a distant cousin in the UK provided some pauper's orders against the couple; it's been fascinating seeing how the descendants moved into the US and Southern Cross. Regards Karin Duncan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J FLEETWOOD Sent: March-01-12 7:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] The WOOLMANS of Smeeton Westerby & Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Leicestershire Hi Listers   Is anyone researching the WOOLMAN family?   On checking my database I have found a few queries regarding children with the same names & to whom they are married.   These differencies affect the generation born in the 1770's so it can be difficult to confirm the accuracy of data, especially where marriages do not give parents names, & only the father's name is recorded for baptisms/christenings in the Parish Records.   For example a John WOOLMAN married Elizabeth FRENCH on 21 december 1802.   Is this John the son of William WOOLMAN & Ann GREEN who was christened 25 October 1773, or the son of  John WOOLMAN & Anne NEAL who was christened 8 November 1778.   OR/ is this the John WOOLMAN who married Mary COX on 15 February 1801.   There also appears to be a conflict of names for a William WOOLMAN b.c.1750 son of Jeptha WOOLMAN & Anne GOODMAN (his first wife) who is shown as marrying a Mary HODGKINSON (HODGKIN) or Ann GREEN.   The family trees published on Ancestry are contradictory also.   Any help with this would be most welcome.   June Fleetwood West Yorkshire. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Emma, Thanks a million your so kind. Keith in Malta. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Faulkner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] 1911 census > Image sent off list > > On 27 February 2012 10:07, Emma Faulkner <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Here you go Keith >> >> >> On 27 February 2012 09:59, keith Hammond < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> hi, >>> can anyone please help with 1911 census of an enmma smith living >>> Markfield born Hugglescote living with son Harry and husband Alfred >>> Joseph >>> smith. Any help would please be so very kind. Emma was born about 1883. >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Keith in Malta. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, can anyone please help with 1911 census of an enmma smith living Markfield born Hugglescote living with son Harry and husband Alfred Joseph smith. Any help would please be so very kind. Emma was born about 1883. Thank you. Keith in Malta.

A typo I've been subject to myself, much to my amusement! :) On 27 February 2012 10:22, Brian Binns <[email protected]> wrote: > That typo was nearly Enama Smith - now that would have been unfortunate. > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of keith > Hammond > Sent: 27 February 2012 09:59 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEI] 1911 census > > hi, > can anyone please help with 1911 census of an enmma smith living > Markfield born Hugglescote living with son Harry and husband Alfred Joseph > smith. Any help would please be so very kind. Emma was born about 1883. > Thank you. > > Keith in Malta. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4834 - Release Date: 02/26/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4834 - Release Date: 02/26/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4834 - Release Date: 02/26/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That typo was nearly Enama Smith - now that would have been unfortunate. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of keith Hammond Sent: 27 February 2012 09:59 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] 1911 census hi, can anyone please help with 1911 census of an enmma smith living Markfield born Hugglescote living with son Harry and husband Alfred Joseph smith. Any help would please be so very kind. Emma was born about 1883. Thank you. Keith in Malta. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4834 - Release Date: 02/26/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4834 - Release Date: 02/26/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4834 - Release Date: 02/26/12

Image sent off list On 27 February 2012 10:07, Emma Faulkner <[email protected]> wrote: > Here you go Keith > > > On 27 February 2012 09:59, keith Hammond < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> hi, >> can anyone please help with 1911 census of an enmma smith living >> Markfield born Hugglescote living with son Harry and husband Alfred Joseph >> smith. Any help would please be so very kind. Emma was born about 1883. >> Thank you. >> >> Keith in Malta. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Many thanks for that, Tom, Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Perrett Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012 4:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:27:26 +1100, Christine M Denton wrote: >Can't receive BBC Radio 4 here, You can if you download a free thing from the BBC called BBC iPlayer which you install on your PC then you can stream the program to your PC speakers. Cheers, Tom <[email protected]> Tom Perrett ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carole and Everyone Carole, you are obviously the same age as I am. My earliest memories, though, don't go back that far, to my knowledge, but I do have some of those "black and white" memories of around my third birthday, when we went to Scotland to visit my father who, having been called up for the war, was doing a course to qualify for the Army Royal Signals. I also have photos, which are great and most likely the last ones of my father and me together. Unfortunately he was killed in action in 1945 and I have a much clearer memory of that day, when my mother received the letter informing her. I was brought home from nursery school (I was 4 1/2 years old then) by our neighbour, who simply said she had come because my mother "isn't very well". I skipped and ran around happily on the way home but when I got into our house there was Mum in tears and Grandpa (I think) trying to keep out of the way. We knew he had "stepped on a mine" nine days earlier and "lost a leg" - I now know it was amputated - but he died from the shock. I think those very early memories stay with us when something unusual happened. We have a friend here who lived in Liverpool and she was only 18 month old when their house was nearly bombed. It was the only one on the terrace remaining standing and they had to move out as it was unstable. Her father was away at the war and she remembers her mother moving all their furniture on a hand cart to the house they moved to. We have "The Story of English" on tape among our vast library of things recorded from the TV. It's really interesting, isn't it. Harvey, I remember one of those black ice mornings. Having fallen over myself a couple of times on Cardinals Walk on the way to the bus - best place to walk was the join between the kerb and the pavement tarmac but still VERY slippery! - while waiting for the (Midland Red) bus on Scraptoft Lane a few of us saw a bus sliding sideways on a hill. There is a steep bit just after Wrigley Road and the bus was coming from town when it started to slide backwards down the hill. The, obviously very skilled, driver managed to turn and go into a side road there where it was all right. Reckon it was days like that that sent us here to Oz, don't you?! I remember the 1947 winter and Mum putting out bread for the birds in our back garden, then still backed by fields. There were lots of different species and I had my bird book and really enjoyed identifying them. Once it eased off a bit I remember going on the lawn in my wellies, making ugly footprints in that pristine white which had been there so long! We walked to school through all that, didn't we, not like today when the country is virtually paralysed by a big snowstorm. I also had "aunties and uncles" who weren't related, mostly neighbours and family friends. That was how things were done then. The bus numbers were remembered so easily as we were children and used the buses all the time, firstly with a parent and then on our own. I also used the buses a bit in later years in Sydney and remember the numbers of some of those too. We also used to go to the Bell Saturday night dancing and occasionally to the Palais on Friday nights. Jan in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:54 AM Subject: [LEI] Fwd: Memories - > > > > > ____________________________________ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: 2/20/2012 3:50:14 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: Memories - > > > We, my husband & I have an excellent set of videos, probably now > available > on DVD, The Award Winning PBS Series on the History of the English > Language "The Story of English". Those interested in dialects may find it > interesting. > Incidentally, my earliest memory is as a two year old. It was the day > after Hitler bombed Nottingham - 1942. We lived in a Terrace house on > Lowdham > Street, Nottingham. The bottom half of the street was totally obliterated. > My > memory is of my mother giving me a kettle to hold so that we could queue > for water. I was puzzled, why was everyone around me crying, everyone is > so > bad tempered and sad, who were the big men in coats (must have been > fireman), where did the big pipes come from (must have been hoses - my > mother had > to lift me or better still drag me over them). So much water, my feet are > wet. I look down, water is lapping over my shoes and I'm cold. Where was > all the smoke coming from, what was that smell. And strangely enough, I > can > still close my eyes and see it all and yet it is all in "black & white" > like in the movie Schlider's List! > > Carole Bell (Wakefield) > Colorado. USA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4822 - Release Date: 02/20/12 >

Hi Everyone, I have very fond memories of the buses, especially the Corporation buses that were garaged in the Abbey Park Road depot. I joined the L.C.T. when I just turned 21 as a Connÿ (Conductor). I already had a driving licence but only for cars. After a few years I applied to be trained as a driver. It took just about 3 weeks to be trained. Much later, on a cold and frosty morning I vividly remember taking a bus out at 5.30am on a "workman's special. It was raining in the city but as we went onto Saffron Lane, the sound of the water under the front tyres suddenly disappeared. Sitting in the cab alongside the engine, I realised that we were all travelling on BLACK ICE. All I did was lift my foot off the accelerator and the balance of the bus altered, and it decided it was going to do a full 360 decree turn in the middle of Saffron lane and we all finished up in the gutter with the nose of the bus between two trees". There was a tremendous cheer from all the workers both on the lower deck and upstairs, They all thought it was really funny until I told them they would all have to get out and push the bus back onto the road. No one was hurt and it went down as a big joke. I had a terrible time trying to convince them that it was not it was not a deliberate mistake on my part, Just inexperience on my part. After that I used to take my little old Hillman onto country roads during the winter and taught myself skid control. I later took an advanced driving course and that has got me out of trouble with other drivers who were not paying full attention to other driver around them. I was later promoted to an Inspector, but after 4 years in that position, my wife and family emigrated to Adelaide, Australia, and, yes I was still driving busses until I retired in 1994 Hope you all enjoyed this little story Harvey Bates, Adelaide, Sth. Australia