TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY <[email protected]> wrote: > >Hi >worth a note our ancestors often took the cheapest tour to America, so they could well have gone by German carriers from Hamburg, Norwegian carriers from Stavanger, Dutch from Rotterdam, etc. Can be complicated, have found a deal of British names on Norwegian and German passenger lists whilst looking for Norwegians traveling to the USA. >regards >Terry > > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:35:39 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [LEI] emigration to USA 1900 >> >> FindMyPast has lists for some ships leaving Britain. Around 1890-1911 >> there is one for Mr & Mrs. Nock with two children and a nurse (single >> female over 12) cabin passengers going to Trinidad on ship Para from >> Southampton departing 20 Oct 1897. There weren't many passengers. No >> other details on this clear image. >> >> Many passenger lists are missing of course and there could be >> transcription errors. >> >> Regards, Trevor >> >> On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:24:11 +1000, you wrote: >> >> > >> >Hi, >> > Can anyone tell me about emigration to the USA about 1900. >> > >> >If the person had been tried at Court for manslaughter and been acquitted >> >would he and family have been allowed to migrate to USA. >> > >> >I'm looking for a Edwin Herbert Nock b. 1865 Rowley Regis Staffs >> > wife Emma Nock ( nee Pitt ) b 1868 Dudley >> >and children Olive May b. 1891 >> > Herbert Edwin b. 1892 >> > Robert b. 1893 >> > >> >I was told they went about 1898 1899, maybe to New York and then settled in >> >Mexico. >> > >> >I cannot find them on any ship to New York on Ancestry. >> > >> >Thanks if anyone has clues >> > >> >Regards Ken >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY <[email protected]> wrote: > >Hi >worth a note our ancestors often took the cheapest tour to America, so they could well have gone by German carriers from Hamburg, Norwegian carriers from Stavanger, Dutch from Rotterdam, etc. Can be complicated, have found a deal of British names on Norwegian and German passenger lists whilst looking for Norwegians traveling to the USA. >regards >Terry > > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:35:39 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [LEI] emigration to USA 1900 >> >> FindMyPast has lists for some ships leaving Britain. Around 1890-1911 >> there is one for Mr & Mrs. Nock with two children and a nurse (single >> female over 12) cabin passengers going to Trinidad on ship Para from >> Southampton departing 20 Oct 1897. There weren't many passengers. No >> other details on this clear image. >> >> Many passenger lists are missing of course and there could be >> transcription errors. >> >> Regards, Trevor >> >> On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:24:11 +1000, you wrote: >> >> > >> >Hi, >> > Can anyone tell me about emigration to the USA about 1900. >> > >> >If the person had been tried at Court for manslaughter and been acquitted >> >would he and family have been allowed to migrate to USA. >> > >> >I'm looking for a Edwin Herbert Nock b. 1865 Rowley Regis Staffs >> > wife Emma Nock ( nee Pitt ) b 1868 Dudley >> >and children Olive May b. 1891 >> > Herbert Edwin b. 1892 >> > Robert b. 1893 >> > >> >I was told they went about 1898 1899, maybe to New York and then settled in >> >Mexico. >> > >> >I cannot find them on any ship to New York on Ancestry. >> > >> >Thanks if anyone has clues >> > >> >Regards Ken >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, Many Thanks to Antony Lambert for your help. Can anyone help with a Frederick George STANGER who supposed to have died in 1965 in a motorcycle accident, age about 55. Regards Ken ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 07:16:25 +0100 From: "C5D" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LEI] STANGER CROPSTON LEICS To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This would seem to be his entry in the Death Indexes Name: STANGER, Frederick G Registration district: Leicester County: Leicestershire Year of registration: 1965 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death:55 Volume no: 3A Page no: 606 So your dates appear to be correct. Good Luck Antony Lambert
Hi, Can anyone help with a Frederick George STANGER who supposed to have died in 1965 in a motorcycle accident, age about 55. All the best for now Regards Ken
For 1858 and later see http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills Some years of calendar indexes can be found at Ancestry.com and a short term subscription may be a less expensive option than getting the copies whilst visiting the UK. For pre 1858 the situation is more complicated and not all wills are to be found in a central location. Keep in mind only a small proportion of the population thought to have a will. Keith Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: [LEI] Leicestershire wills and admons > Hi there > > I am coming over to the UK in May and would like to obtain some Wills. > Does > someone have the address that I can go to so that I can order them or is > there a central place in the UK for all counties? > > Thanks > Sue Woodcock > Brisbane > Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi there I am coming over to the UK in May and would like to obtain some Wills. Does someone have the address that I can go to so that I can order them or is there a central place in the UK for all counties? Thanks Sue Woodcock Brisbane Australia
Sue, Most, if not all, of the Probate Records for Leicestershire have been microfilmed by the LDS and can be ordered into your local LDS family history library in Brisbane for A$7.75 a microfilm. < https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=453780&subject_disp=England%2C+Leicester+-+Probate+records&columns=*,0,0 > The records on Ancestry will have come from LDS microfilming projects of the past. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: ListMail To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] Leicestershire wills and admons For 1858 and later see http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills Some years of calendar indexes can be found at Ancestry.com and a short term subscription may be a less expensive option than getting the copies whilst visiting the UK. For pre 1858 the situation is more complicated and not all wills are to be found in a central location. Keep in mind only a small proportion of the population thought to have a will. Keith Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: [LEI] Leicestershire wills and admons > Hi there > > I am coming over to the UK in May and would like to obtain some Wills. > Does someone have the address that I can go to so that I can order them or is there a central place in the UK for all counties? > > Thanks > Sue Woodcock > Brisbane > Australia
Hi Sue, If there is a connection with Leicestershire or Rutland, it would be worth searching the Record Office on-line catalogue here: <http://record-office-catalogue.leics.gov.uk/dserve/> If you visit the Record Office when you're here, ask at the desk in Search Room 2 and they will direct you to the index of wills. This is mainly useful for the pre-1858 wills. For later wills, do as others have suggested. Best wishes, Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 25 March 2012 02:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] Leicestershire wills and admons Hi there I am coming over to the UK in May and would like to obtain some Wills. Does someone have the address that I can go to so that I can order them or is there a central place in the UK for all counties? Thanks Sue Woodcock Brisbane Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Sue Much would depend on the years you are interested in 1858 is the major change point, 1858 onwards wills are indexed Nationally and the place to check is are the Probate Calendars Ancestry have 1861 to 1941 (less two gaps, 1899 to 1902 and 1910 & 1911) Copies of wills 1858 onwards can be obtained from one place and are as easily ordered from abroad as anywhere, nowhere can you get a copy over the counter these days as far as I am aware If before 1858 wills were proved in a variety of places depending on circumstances, location of assets, value of estate etc etc If in the years 1796 - 1903 a good place to start are the Death Duties Indexes, available on findmypast, they are not indexed so its a matter of searching the relevant years to see if your name is listed, if it is it will tell you where the will was probated It is also worth checking the Prerogative Court of Canterbury wills (1384 - 1858) on the National Archives, its a free search and downloadable wills for a small fee I would also suggest reading the research guides on the National Archives http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/atoz/w.htm# Let us know where and what period you are researching Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi there > > I am coming over to the UK in May and would like to obtain some Wills. Does > someone have the address that I can go to so that I can order them or is > there a central place in the UK for all counties? > > Thanks > Sue Woodcock > Brisbane > Australia
This would seem to be his entry in the Death Indexes Name: STANGER, Frederick G Registration district: Leicester County: Leicestershire Year of registration: 1965 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death:55 Volume no: 3A Page no: 606 So your dates appear to be correct. Good Luck Antony Lambert -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Stanger Sent: 25 March 2012 07:00 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] STANGER CROPSTON LEICS Hi, Can anyone help with a Frederick George STANGER who supposed to have died in 1965 in a motorcycle accident, age about 55. All the best for now Regards Ken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi List I have traced my grandfather's family back to Bagworth via Snarestone to Thomas GOWTAGE who was born abt 1796 in Bagworth. I have found one possible baptism in Thornton in Jan 1976 but the IGI baptism record gives a death in April the following year. The family surname changed to GOWTRIDGE later on but some branches still kept GOWTAGE. The baptism record has the surname GOWDRIDGE. If the Bagworth folk were not baptised in Thornton, where else is likely? My grandfather was a member of the local Wesleyan Chapel so his ancestors may have been non-conformists. Does anyone on the list have any of this family on their tree? Or make any suggestions as to how I can get back beyond Thomas? Regards Geraldine Also researching in Leics: - ADAMS, BANCROFT, HOLMES, MEASURES, MORTIMER, NEAL(E), ROSE, SHARP(E), STATHAM, YEOMANS
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G'day everyone For those of us who are in Australia, a new Australian series of "Who Do You Think You Are?" is starting on SBS on Tuesday 27th March. David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia
Hello Susan, Looking at 1901 Census, Harriett Silverwood ran a shop at Langton House, Dunton Street, Leicester.? Her husband worked as a yarn dyer. In 1911 they were living at 25 Dannett Street, Leicester.? No reference to a shop. From 1940 to 1944, I lived next to the corner of Dominion Road/Liberty Road on the outskirts of Glenfield.? The only shop in the area at that time was on that particular corner (building now converted to a house).? There were no shops that I recall in Liberty Road and certainly not one in the present location of No.19. As Amy was only 16/17 in 1911, the years you are looking for are probably 1915 onwards. I've looked at trade directories for 1914 and 1916 but there is nothing relevant in them. I think that electoral registers and trade directories for later years probably the most likely sources. Regards, Jack Allen -----Original Message----- From: Susan McIsaac <[email protected]> To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:35 Subject: [LEI] Shops in Glenfields (early 1900 +-) Hello Listers: I have been told by relatives that my great grandparents had some kind of shop for several years in Glenfields Nr Leicester. Their names are Harriett and William SILVERWOOD and were assisted by their daughter and son-in-law Amy and Oswald HUBBARD. The last known address I had for them was at 19 Liberty Rd. Would anyone know if the shop was located at this address or were I may look for further information. Thanks in advance for any help available. Susan (Clay) McIsaac Researching: LAPPAGE, CLAY, RIMMINGTON, SILVERWOOD ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Listers: I have been told by relatives that my great grandparents had some kind of shop for several years in Glenfields Nr Leicester. Their names are Harriett and William SILVERWOOD and were assisted by their daughter and son-in-law Amy and Oswald HUBBARD. The last known address I had for them was at 19 Liberty Rd. Would anyone know if the shop was located at this address or were I may look for further information. Thanks in advance for any help available. Susan (Clay) McIsaac Researching: LAPPAGE, CLAY, RIMMINGTON, SILVERWOOD
Hi Lou If the child drew breath there should be a birth registration and likewise a death registration No matter how disposed of there should still be both registrations even if no burial, it is possible if unnamed the birth is registered as "male" MILLS or "female" MILLS But as in all things if humans are involved there is scope for errors to creep into the system I have a case of a birth in 1848 that was not registered or at least I have not found one, the death is registered, two years later the same couple had another child and named him the same as the deceased child, his birth is registered, so it looks as if the birth was not registered until two years after the death To add to the sorry tale, he dies/emigrates/disappears into thin air at the age of some 24 years , never to be seen again Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) My mum told me that she had a child before she had me. But he died in hospital a few days after he was born (this would have been around 1943). She never knew what happened to the baby as the hospital "took care of everything" in disposing of the body. I've never bothered to see if my brother was registered, either at birth or death, but I suspect that if the hospital "took care of everything" there was no burial record. My mother was never told what the hospital had done with the infant. Now, this was down in Kent during World War II, but I've always wondered if my mother's experience was the norm for those times. It's also possible my mother's memory of how long he lived may be exaggerated, but still, I'd like to know what happened. Lou
Jack, thank-you, that's very kind. Looks like my Grandad was buried separately and the second child is in a different plot (or unlisted). The child would have been born at Rendell Road so I guess if baptised that would have been St Marks? I really should get down to the grave anyway and check that they haven't moved the headstone! On 18 March 2012 14:44, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Emma, > The grave plot is consecrated O 924./? There are three persons listed > there: > Mary Elizabeth STEVENSON, aged 32, buried 6 April 1906. Address - 39 > Westbourne Street > John James Adkins STEVENSON, aged 47, buried 18 June 1921. Address - > Royal Infirmary > Ethel May MARTIN, aged 50, buried 21 October 1952. Address - 49 > Southfields Drive. > Regards, > Jack Allen > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emma Faulkner <[email protected]> > To: leicestershire-plus <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:51 > Subject: Re: [LEI] looking for a STEVENSON child > > > > > Ah, cunning. Just need to find the slip mum sent me that has the plot > number, and then get down to Welford Road - I know John bought a family > plot, and he, his wife and both my grandparents are in it (there's > apparently a space left, but Mum doesn't want it...) > > On 18 March 2012 11:42, Mike Gould <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Emma, > > > > My grandmother had two children who died young and who do not appear > on > > censuses, but they are both recorded on her headstone, since they > were > > buried in her "plot". Might be worth checking. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Mike Gould > > Leicestershire > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emma > > Faulkner > > Sent: 18 March 2012 09:11 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [LEI] looking for a STEVENSON child > > > > Morning all > > > > Been picking up my research a bit since re-subbing to Ancestry. When > I > > looked at the 1911 entry for my maternal grandmother Ethel > Stevenson, she > > was, as I expected, shown as age 10, living on Rendell Road with her > > father John James Adkins Stevenson and her grandparents. Her mother > Mary > > Elisabeth, nee Martin, died in 1906. > > > > What I hadn't expected was to see that John had apparently had 2 > children, > > of which only Ethel was living. As Ethel is the only one on the 1901 > > census, this other child must have been born - and died - between > 1901 and > > 1911. Could it be that Mary died in childbirth? I always thought she > died > > in the TB epidemic, could it be that the child did as well? > > > > I know I probably need to order Mary's death certificate but can SKS > advise > > me on how to find out more about this 2nd child? I've looked in the > birth > > records but they don't list mother's maiden name at this time like > they do > > later on. > > > > All help appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Em > > > > STEVENSON - Glenfield/Medbourne/Leicester > > ADKINS - Stoke Albany/Guisborough > > MARTIN - Thurmaston/Syston/Leicester > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Ah, cunning. Just need to find the slip mum sent me that has the plot number, and then get down to Welford Road - I know John bought a family plot, and he, his wife and both my grandparents are in it (there's apparently a space left, but Mum doesn't want it...) On 18 March 2012 11:42, Mike Gould <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Emma, > > My grandmother had two children who died young and who do not appear on > censuses, but they are both recorded on her headstone, since they were > buried in her "plot". Might be worth checking. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > Leicestershire > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emma > Faulkner > Sent: 18 March 2012 09:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEI] looking for a STEVENSON child > > Morning all > > Been picking up my research a bit since re-subbing to Ancestry. When I > looked at the 1911 entry for my maternal grandmother Ethel Stevenson, she > was, as I expected, shown as age 10, living on Rendell Road with her > father John James Adkins Stevenson and her grandparents. Her mother Mary > Elisabeth, nee Martin, died in 1906. > > What I hadn't expected was to see that John had apparently had 2 children, > of which only Ethel was living. As Ethel is the only one on the 1901 > census, this other child must have been born - and died - between 1901 and > 1911. Could it be that Mary died in childbirth? I always thought she died > in the TB epidemic, could it be that the child did as well? > > I know I probably need to order Mary's death certificate but can SKS advise > me on how to find out more about this 2nd child? I've looked in the birth > records but they don't list mother's maiden name at this time like they do > later on. > > All help appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Em > > STEVENSON - Glenfield/Medbourne/Leicester > ADKINS - Stoke Albany/Guisborough > MARTIN - Thurmaston/Syston/Leicester > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
My mum told me that she had a child before she had me. But he died in hospital a few days after he was born (this would have been around 1943). She never knew what happened to the baby as the hospital "took care of everything" in disposing of the body. I've never bothered to see if my brother was registered, either at birth or death, but I suspect that if the hospital "took care of everything" there was no burial record. My mother was never told what the hospital had done with the infant. Now, this was down in Kent during World War II, but I've always wondered if my mother's experience was the norm for those times. It's also possible my mother's memory of how long he lived may be exaggerated, but still, I'd like to know what happened. Lou ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:10:40 +0100 From: Emma Faulkner <[email protected]> Subject: [LEI] looking for a STEVENSON child To: [email protected] Message-ID: Morning all Been picking up my research a bit since re-subbing to Ancestry. When I looked at the 1911 entry for my maternal grandmother Ethel Stevenson, she was, as I expected, shown as age 10, living on Rendell Road with her father John James Adkins Stevenson and her grandparents. Her mother Mary Elisabeth, nee Martin, died in 1906. -snip-
Hi Emma, My grandmother had two children who died young and who do not appear on censuses, but they are both recorded on her headstone, since they were buried in her "plot". Might be worth checking. Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emma Faulkner Sent: 18 March 2012 09:11 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] looking for a STEVENSON child Morning all Been picking up my research a bit since re-subbing to Ancestry. When I looked at the 1911 entry for my maternal grandmother Ethel Stevenson, she was, as I expected, shown as age 10, living on Rendell Road with her father John James Adkins Stevenson and her grandparents. Her mother Mary Elisabeth, nee Martin, died in 1906. What I hadn't expected was to see that John had apparently had 2 children, of which only Ethel was living. As Ethel is the only one on the 1901 census, this other child must have been born - and died - between 1901 and 1911. Could it be that Mary died in childbirth? I always thought she died in the TB epidemic, could it be that the child did as well? I know I probably need to order Mary's death certificate but can SKS advise me on how to find out more about this 2nd child? I've looked in the birth records but they don't list mother's maiden name at this time like they do later on. All help appreciated. Thanks! Em STEVENSON - Glenfield/Medbourne/Leicester ADKINS - Stoke Albany/Guisborough MARTIN - Thurmaston/Syston/Leicester ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message