You can get this through ParLoc; a free download. Mike   Hello Leics. folk, Quite some time ago I was given a site link where one could write in the name of a town, for example Tugby, and then enlarge the map to show villages, hamlets whatall within  a 5 mile, 10 mile radius  of Tugby.   This I found extremely helpful in my research because I know nothing of locations when finding possible family members.  I have looked on Genuki but could not recognize anything.   Unfortunately as part of a computer crash I lost all my Bookmarks (or Favorites). Does anyone have any idea of what I'm looking for ? Any suggestions or help will be most appreciated.   Madeline in California

Thank you Mike for your very prompt reply.  I will check it out.   Madeline --- On Thu, 4/12/12, Michael Wells <[email protected]> wrote: From: Michael Wells <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LEI] Villages map site To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 7:16 PM You can get this through ParLoc; a free download. Mike   Hello Leics. folk, Quite some time ago I was given a site link where one could write in the name of a town, for example Tugby, and then enlarge the map to show villages, hamlets whatall within  a 5 mile, 10 mile radius  of Tugby.   This I found extremely helpful in my research because I know nothing of locations when finding possible family members.  I have looked on Genuki but could not recognize anything.   Unfortunately as part of a computer crash I lost all my Bookmarks (or Favorites). Does anyone have any idea of what I'm looking for ? Any suggestions or help will be most appreciated.   Madeline in California ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Leics. folk, Quite some time ago I was given a site link where one could write in the name of a town, for example Tugby, and then enlarge the map to show villages, hamlets whatall within  a 5 mile, 10 mile radius  of Tugby.   This I found extremely helpful in my research because I know nothing of locations when finding possible family members.  I have looked on Genuki but could not recognize anything.   Unfortunately as part of a computer crash I lost all my Bookmarks (or Favorites). Does anyone have any idea of what I'm looking for ? Any suggestions or help will be most appreciated.   Madeline in California

I am afraid that my computer has sent a message to all my address book (and some addresses I don’t recognize) which contains a link to something I do not recognize. Please be careful not to click on the link. In the meantime I am re-running my virus software but it has, so far, identified nothing. Sorry for the inconvenience. Richard Kendell

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Hi list, further school admissions listed with pupils from Etwall, Edale, Derby St Chad, Derby St Thomas showing Leices connections. Link below, if it fails Google Yesterdays Journey. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thanks Nivard for your latest comments on my ideas about surname research I think I just sent a balnk reply to the list by accident My apologies to all Don Hurd

> From: [email protected] > Subject: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:00:52 -0600 > > > > IMPORTANT! When replying to one of the messages below, DO NOT hit "Reply" and add your comments. (It won't work!) Copy+paste only the relevant bit into a new email, or SNIP everything that isn't relevant. In either case, remember to make sure that your subject line is relevant to your posting! > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 97 (Donald Hurd) > 2. certificates online (A durn) > 3. Re: certificates online (Nivard Ovington) > 4. Re: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 97 (Nivard Ovington) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:12:36 -0400 > From: Donald Hurd <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LEI] LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 97 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi Nivard > Thanks again for your message. The information in both the websites you mentioned is fascinating and the second one tells me just what I was looking for. The population of Leicestershire in 1841 was 215,857. > I have been visiting the website ukcensusonline which give national and county totals for a given census year for a surname. You can get somethong similar from Ancestry but the figures differ between the two websites. I suspect it is differing rules each site uses to accept a match which is responsible for the differences. > As to why I want this data, I find it interesting in itself to see how the names in my tree are distributed in the country. I have hit a brick wall on most of my lines around the 1790s and it is interesting to know if certain ancestral names are concentrated in Leicestershire or elsewere. > Regards > Don Hurd > > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:17:43 +0100 > > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > > Hi Don > > > > You did not reply as to what you were expecting to find or derive from the census data you seek > > > > As I said previously the census summaries and reports do not mention names or how many times a > > certain name occurred so am not sure what you are looking for really > > > > For more on the census see http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/ > > > > And in particular http://histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/ > > > > Both require a little work on your part to drill down to the data you seek but contain a wealth of > > data > > > > Neither will help you determine where a name comes from IMHO > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:55:51 +0100 (BST) > From: A durn <[email protected]> > Subject: [LEI] certificates online > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > please note > > > Service Announcement - 29 March 2012 > Please note that the General Register Office certificate fees will not be changing on 1 April 2012. > > Certificate fees remain at ?9.25 for the standard service and ?23.40 for the priority service. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:04:51 +0100 > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LEI] certificates online > To: "A durn" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi all > > It is the certificates ordered from local offices that have risen and are now ten pounds per > certificate > > The GRO certificates remain the same as below > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > please note > > > Service Announcement - 29 March 2012 > Please note that the General Register Office certificate fees will not be changing on 1 April 2012. > > Certificate fees remain at ?9.25 for the standard service and ?23.40 for the priority service. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:18:36 +0100 > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LEI] LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 97 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi again Don > > You will find all the various sites that have the census mysteriously return different figures for > population, some are easier to work than others, Ancestry being the easiest, some you cannot extract > that sort of interesting data as you are forced to enter at least a name > > As you suggest, much will depend on the way each site categorises people in the census and how they > extract data > > The census does not follow strict County boundaries, some places geographically in one County may be > found enumerated in another, neighbouring County, so totals may vary depending on how the site > handles the data > > The problem with checking the occurrence of a given surname in various Counties or regions can be > made more complicated as some names are prone to variation more than others and some names have > evolved over time and in some case changed completely either by design or by accident > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > Hi Nivard > > Thanks again for your message. The information in both the websites you mentioned is fascinating > > and the second one tells me just what I was looking for. The population of Leicestershire in 1841 > > was 215,857. > > I have been visiting the website ukcensusonline which give national and county totals for a given > > census year for a surname. You can get somethong similar from Ancestry but the figures differ > > between the two websites. I suspect it is differing rules each site uses to accept a match which > > is responsible for the differences. > > As to why I want this data, I find it interesting in itself to see how the names in my tree are > > distributed in the country. I have hit a brick wall on most of my lines around the 1790s and it is > > interesting to know if certain ancestral names are concentrated in Leicestershire or elsewere. > > Regards > > Don Hurd > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 > **************************************************

Thanks very much Nivard Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:leicestershire- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 02 April 2012 14:46 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] 1911 Census Ancestry Library Edition > > Hi Mike > > Although the library subscription is a little different from the home > version it should allow access > to both the page image and the transcript >

Hi Mike Although the library subscription is a little different from the home version it should allow access to both the page image and the transcript The page image for one side of the schedule (with the names on) is usually followed by the other side of the form (RG14) on Ancestry That gives some of the reference you need but the simplest way is to copy the transcript as well as the page images For example 1911 England Census about Minnie Ovington Name: Minnie Ovington Age in 1911: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Wendron, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Langcliffe * County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: New Street Langcliffe Settle Marital Status: Married Registration district: Settle * Registration District Number: 484 * Sub-registration district: Settle *this is sub dist 2 on the other side of the schedule* ED, institution, or vessel: 04 * Piece: 25731 * Household Members: Name Age Minnie Ovington 45 Tristram Ovington 12 John Ovington 12 Mary Ovington 81 Arthur Ovington 37 RG14; Piece: 25731; ; . The full reference would be 1911 RG14/Piece No Reg Dist Sub Dist Enum Dist Schedule No 1911 RG14/Piece No 25731 Reg Dist 484 Sub Dist 2 Enum Dist 4 Schedule No 49 The Sub District is to be found reverse page of the schedule and the schedule number is top right of the schedule page image with the names on Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am using the library edition of Ancestry. The originals available for the > 1911 census do not have details of the parish, district or an RG ref. > > Could someone explain why? > > > > Mike

I am using the library edition of Ancestry. The originals available for the 1911 census do not have details of the parish, district or an RG ref. Could someone explain why? Mike

Hi again Don You will find all the various sites that have the census mysteriously return different figures for population, some are easier to work than others, Ancestry being the easiest, some you cannot extract that sort of interesting data as you are forced to enter at least a name As you suggest, much will depend on the way each site categorises people in the census and how they extract data The census does not follow strict County boundaries, some places geographically in one County may be found enumerated in another, neighbouring County, so totals may vary depending on how the site handles the data The problem with checking the occurrence of a given surname in various Counties or regions can be made more complicated as some names are prone to variation more than others and some names have evolved over time and in some case changed completely either by design or by accident Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Hi Nivard > Thanks again for your message. The information in both the websites you mentioned is fascinating > and the second one tells me just what I was looking for. The population of Leicestershire in 1841 > was 215,857. > I have been visiting the website ukcensusonline which give national and county totals for a given > census year for a surname. You can get somethong similar from Ancestry but the figures differ > between the two websites. I suspect it is differing rules each site uses to accept a match which > is responsible for the differences. > As to why I want this data, I find it interesting in itself to see how the names in my tree are > distributed in the country. I have hit a brick wall on most of my lines around the 1790s and it is > interesting to know if certain ancestral names are concentrated in Leicestershire or elsewere. > Regards > Don Hurd

Hi all It is the certificates ordered from local offices that have risen and are now ten pounds per certificate The GRO certificates remain the same as below Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) please note Service Announcement - 29 March 2012 Please note that the General Register Office certificate fees will not be changing on 1 April 2012. Certificate fees remain at £9.25 for the standard service and £23.40 for the priority service.

please note Service Announcement - 29 March 2012 Please note that the General Register Office certificate fees will not be changing on 1 April 2012. Certificate fees remain at £9.25 for the standard service and £23.40 for the priority service.

Hi Nivard Thanks again for your message. The information in both the websites you mentioned is fascinating and the second one tells me just what I was looking for. The population of Leicestershire in 1841 was 215,857. I have been visiting the website ukcensusonline which give national and county totals for a given census year for a surname. You can get somethong similar from Ancestry but the figures differ between the two websites. I suspect it is differing rules each site uses to accept a match which is responsible for the differences. As to why I want this data, I find it interesting in itself to see how the names in my tree are distributed in the country. I have hit a brick wall on most of my lines around the 1790s and it is interesting to know if certain ancestral names are concentrated in Leicestershire or elsewere. Regards Don Hurd > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:17:43 +0100 > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > Hi Don > > You did not reply as to what you were expecting to find or derive from the census data you seek > > As I said previously the census summaries and reports do not mention names or how many times a > certain name occurred so am not sure what you are looking for really > > For more on the census see http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/ > > And in particular http://histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/ > > Both require a little work on your part to drill down to the data you seek but contain a wealth of > data > > Neither will help you determine where a name comes from IMHO > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Don You did not reply as to what you were expecting to find or derive from the census data you seek As I said previously the census summaries and reports do not mention names or how many times a certain name occurred so am not sure what you are looking for really For more on the census see http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/ And in particular http://histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/ Both require a little work on your part to drill down to the data you seek but contain a wealth of data Neither will help you determine where a name comes from IMHO Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Thanks to Nivard for his suggestions. I would have thought that reports from each census would > exist on the website of the office for National Statitics but I can't find anything. > Don Hurd

Thanks to Nivard for his suggestions. I would have thought that reports from each census would exist on the website of the office for National Statitics but I can't find anything. Don Hurd > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:16:51 -0400 > From: Donald Hurd <[email protected]> > Subject: [LEI] Surname Research > > Hello everybody > > Does anyone know where I can find population totals for Leicestershire (and other counties), and national totals in the 1841 - 1911 censuses ? > > I am trying to determine the possible origins of the various names in my tree by comparing the frequency of local occurrence to the frequency of national occurrence. > > Does anyone know of instances or information on this kind of study ? > > regards from a chilly spring day in St John's Newfoundland. > > Don Hurd > > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:19:50 +0100 > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > > Hi Don > > I can forward a spreadsheet showing the population figures from 1821 to 1921 > > Its broken down by total UK, England & Wales, Scotland & Ireland > Each subdivided by male/female > > But not by County > > But I am not sure what good it will do you as these kind of statistical exercises are not by surname > > Names started quite a bit earlier than the 1841 and so would not tell you a great deal > > This may be more up your street but is for 1881 and 1998 > > http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/ > > Using Ancestry you can get a basic idea of how many of a certain surname are in each County by using > advanced search and entering the County of residence and the surname > > Change the County of residence to get other Counties > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:26:16 +0100 > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > > Apologies > > It should read 1821 to *1911* > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Apologies It should read 1821 to *1911* Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Don > > I can forward a spreadsheet showing the population figures from 1821 to 1921 >

Hi Don I can forward a spreadsheet showing the population figures from 1821 to 1921 Its broken down by total UK, England & Wales, Scotland & Ireland Each subdivided by male/female But not by County But I am not sure what good it will do you as these kind of statistical exercises are not by surname Names started quite a bit earlier than the 1841 and so would not tell you a great deal This may be more up your street but is for 1881 and 1998 http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/ Using Ancestry you can get a basic idea of how many of a certain surname are in each County by using advanced search and entering the County of residence and the surname Change the County of residence to get other Counties Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Hello everybody > > Does anyone know where I can find population totals for Leicestershire (and other counties), and > national totals in the 1841 - 1911 censuses ? > > I am trying to determine the possible origins of the various names in my tree by comparing the > frequency of local occurrence to the frequency of national occurrence. > > Does anyone know of instances or information on this kind of study ? > > regards from a chilly spring day in St John's Newfoundland. > > Don Hurd

Hello everybody Does anyone know where I can find population totals for Leicestershire (and other counties), and national totals in the 1841 - 1911 censuses ? I am trying to determine the possible origins of the various names in my tree by comparing the frequency of local occurrence to the frequency of national occurrence. Does anyone know of instances or information on this kind of study ? regards from a chilly spring day in St John's Newfoundland. Don Hurd