Hi Desley I have had a rummage around but like you did not find your Ann M BISHOP after 1881 As Mike rightly said, could the sister Fanny be a sister in law ? One thing I did notice (or rather didn't notice :-) was a birth for Ann M BISHOP in or around 1863 Do you know what the M stood for? Several scenarios come to mind Was she registered under a different name than the Ann she used and later reverted to her birth name She married or shacked up with someone, the marriage if there was one is either under another name (the M?) or did not get reported to the GRO or they didn't marry But as there are no candidates for a person born circa 1863 Primethorpe or Sutton in the Elms in the later census you do wonder if she may have emigrated or died If you can find out what the M stood for it may help The death was registered as if she was born in 1861, thats a common error in the deaths registered but not usually in one so young Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12/07/2012 11:10, Desley Revell wrote: > I have an elusive relative and am stumped as to where she has gone. > > Ann M Bishop was born about 1863 in Primethorpe, Leicestershire > (Source: Ann's age is shown as 8 years making her birth around 1863. Registration District: Lutterworth; RG10 piece 3221 folio 12 page 17) > > Her parents were John Carver BISHOP and Ann ATKIN. Ann's mother died in 1874 in the Lutterworth District and Ann's father died in 1905 in Belleville City, Canada. > > In the 1871 census she is shown as a scholar living at Sutton-in-the Elms, Broughton Astley. > > During the 1881 census, Ann is now a teacher and living with her father at 23 Myrtle Road, Leicester. > > An article dated 1880 has been found showing that Ann M Bishop obtained success in an examination. > > Leicester Chronicle and the Leicestershire Mercury (Leicester, England) Saturday, July 10, 1880 > CHURCH EDUCATION SOCIETY. The following teachers at schools in this district obtained successes at the examinations for thre Langham and other prizes in March last, and for which the awards were distributed at Northampton last week. > Fourth Year, Class 2 - Ann M Bishop, St Peter's, Leicester > > and then she disappears. I have tried to find a marriage with no success. > > I did find a death for an Ann Bishop in 1887 the District of Lutterworth, but a relative obtained a copy and it is not our "Ann M Bishop". On obtaining the Death Certificate, this is what my relative said: > Quote - We received a copy of the Ann Bishop Death Certificate but unfortunately it didn't match up with Ann M Bishop ,as she didn't have a Sister Fanny who was stated as present at time of death. Unquote > > Can anyone give me an ideas on further research to find this elusive relative. > > Desley > Brisbane, Australia

Hi, Desley: Unfortunately, I have no knformation about Ann M. Bishop. However, I have an interest in the ancestry of her father, John Carver Bishop of Primethorpe, Leicestershire. Do you have genealogical information on his Bishop ancestors? Thanks, Kent Bishop

Hi Desley, Before dismissing the death certificate completely, have you confirmed that Ann didn't have a sister-in-law called Fanny ? Best wishes, Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Desley Revell Sent: 12 July 2012 11:11 To: Leicestershire Digest Subject: [LEI] Where are you - Ann M Bishop? I have an elusive relative and am stumped as to where she has gone. Ann M Bishop was born about 1863 in Primethorpe, Leicestershire (Source: Ann's age is shown as 8 years making her birth around 1863. Registration District: Lutterworth; RG10 piece 3221 folio 12 page 17) Her parents were John Carver BISHOP and Ann ATKIN. Ann's mother died in 1874 in the Lutterworth District and Ann's father died in 1905 in Belleville City, Canada. In the 1871 census she is shown as a scholar living at Sutton-in-the Elms, Broughton Astley. During the 1881 census, Ann is now a teacher and living with her father at 23 Myrtle Road, Leicester. An article dated 1880 has been found showing that Ann M Bishop obtained success in an examination. Leicester Chronicle and the Leicestershire Mercury (Leicester, England) Saturday, July 10, 1880 CHURCH EDUCATION SOCIETY. The following teachers at schools in this district obtained successes at the examinations for thre Langham and other prizes in March last, and for which the awards were distributed at Northampton last week. Fourth Year, Class 2 - Ann M Bishop, St Peter's, Leicester and then she disappears. I have tried to find a marriage with no success. I did find a death for an Ann Bishop in 1887 the District of Lutterworth, but a relative obtained a copy and it is not our "Ann M Bishop". On obtaining the Death Certificate, this is what my relative said: Quote - We received a copy of the Ann Bishop Death Certificate but unfortunately it didn't match up with Ann M Bishop ,as she didn't have a Sister Fanny who was stated as present at time of death. Unquote Can anyone give me an ideas on further research to find this elusive relative. Desley Brisbane, Australia

This could be the mother's burial from the NBI Ann Bishop 8th Jan 1874 aged 47, Broughton Astley. Angie On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > One further thought > > When John the father died in Canada did he leave a will? > > What children were mentioned if he did > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 12/07/2012 11:10, Desley Revell wrote: > > I have an elusive relative and am stumped as to where she has gone. > > > > Ann M Bishop was born about 1863 in Primethorpe, Leicestershire > > (Source: Ann's age is shown as 8 years making her birth around 1863. > Registration District: Lutterworth; RG10 piece 3221 folio 12 page 17) > > > > Her parents were John Carver BISHOP and Ann ATKIN. Ann's mother died in > 1874 in the Lutterworth District and Ann's father died in 1905 in > Belleville City, Canada. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Desley: If you don't have him here is John in 1901 Belleville, Hastings Co, Ontario, Canada Family # Surname Given Name Gender Relationship Marital Status Birth Day Birth Year Age Birthplace Immigration Racial Origin Religion Occupation 272 Bishop John C Male Head Widower 18 Sep 1827 73 England 1883 English C of E Gardener And in 1891 also in Belleville Family # Surname Given Name Gender Age Marital Status Relationship Birthplace Religion Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Occupation 49 Bishop John C Male 68 Widowed Head England C of E England England Farmer No evidence of Ann (marriage or death in Ontario) Note that John emigrated to Canada in 1883 There is a John Bishop age 55 arriving on 29 May 1883 at Quebec City on board the vessel "Toronto" departed Liverpool 17 May. He is the only name listed for his ticket 552 (No family members accompanying him) Did you rule out the Ann Mary Bishop death in Sheffield in 1883? Deaths Sep 1883 BISHOP Ann Mary 20 Sheffield 9c 274 Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Desley Revell Sent: July 12, 2012 6:11 AM To: Leicestershire Digest Subject: [LEI] Where are you - Ann M Bishop? I have an elusive relative and am stumped as to where she has gone. Ann M Bishop was born about 1863 in Primethorpe, Leicestershire (Source: Ann's age is shown as 8 years making her birth around 1863. Registration District: Lutterworth; RG10 piece 3221 folio 12 page 17) Her parents were John Carver BISHOP and Ann ATKIN. Ann's mother died in 1874 in the Lutterworth District and Ann's father died in 1905 in Belleville City, Canada. In the 1871 census she is shown as a scholar living at Sutton-in-the Elms, Broughton Astley. During the 1881 census, Ann is now a teacher and living with her father at 23 Myrtle Road, Leicester. An article dated 1880 has been found showing that Ann M Bishop obtained success in an examination. Leicester Chronicle and the Leicestershire Mercury (Leicester, England) Saturday, July 10, 1880 CHURCH EDUCATION SOCIETY. The following teachers at schools in this district obtained successes at the examinations for thre Langham and other prizes in March last, and for which the awards were distributed at Northampton last week. Fourth Year, Class 2 - Ann M Bishop, St Peter's, Leicester and then she disappears. I have tried to find a marriage with no success. I did find a death for an Ann Bishop in 1887 the District of Lutterworth, but a relative obtained a copy and it is not our "Ann M Bishop". On obtaining the Death Certificate, this is what my relative said: Quote - We received a copy of the Ann Bishop Death Certificate but unfortunately it didn't match up with Ann M Bishop ,as she didn't have a Sister Fanny who was stated as present at time of death. Unquote Can anyone give me an ideas on further research to find this elusive relative. Desley Brisbane, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings, Your message caught my attention as I 'lost' a GAunt who disappeared fm English records abt 1911. It took 4 years to finally 'find' her - in Canada. As your Ann's father died in Canada, perhaps she was also there? I tried a quick check on ancestry.com (Emigration/Immigration), but didn't see anything obvious. Didn't have time this to check Census records. Best of luck, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Desley Revell Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:11 AM To: Leicestershire Digest Subject: [LEI] Where are you - Ann M Bishop? I have an elusive relative and am stumped as to where she has gone. Ann M Bishop was born about 1863 in Primethorpe, Leicestershire (Source: Ann's age is shown as 8 years making her birth around 1863. Registration District: Lutterworth; RG10 piece 3221 folio 12 page 17) Her parents were John Carver BISHOP and Ann ATKIN. Ann's mother died in 1874 in the Lutterworth District and Ann's father died in 1905 in Belleville City, Canada. In the 1871 census she is shown as a scholar living at Sutton-in-the Elms, Broughton Astley. During the 1881 census, Ann is now a teacher and living with her father at 23 Myrtle Road, Leicester. An article dated 1880 has been found showing that Ann M Bishop obtained success in an examination. Leicester Chronicle and the Leicestershire Mercury (Leicester, England) Saturday, July 10, 1880 CHURCH EDUCATION SOCIETY. The following teachers at schools in this district obtained successes at the examinations for thre Langham and other prizes in March last, and for which the awards were distributed at Northampton last week. Fourth Year, Class 2 - Ann M Bishop, St Peter's, Leicester and then she disappears. I have tried to find a marriage with no success. I did find a death for an Ann Bishop in 1887 the District of Lutterworth, but a relative obtained a copy and it is not our "Ann M Bishop". On obtaining the Death Certificate, this is what my relative said: Quote - We received a copy of the Ann Bishop Death Certificate but unfortunately it didn't match up with Ann M Bishop ,as she didn't have a Sister Fanny who was stated as present at time of death. Unquote Can anyone give me an ideas on further research to find this elusive relative. Desley Brisbane, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Forwarded at the request of the originator: ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:25:52 +0100 Priority: normal Copies to: [email protected] Subject: [NTT] My latest celebrity blog - Victoria Pendleton The ffth in my series of "Famous family trees" for Findmypast has just been published online. The subject is Victoria Pendleton, Britain's phenomenal girl cyclist, the reigning World and Olympic sprint champion and one of the hot contenders for a gold medal at the London Olympics. Her direct male line ancestors were prinncipally needle makers in the stocking-making industry from Leicester and Nottingham and I got the line back to a marriage at Leicester in 1793 of her 5x-great-grandparents. It seems entirely possible that some listers may find they are related to her. You can see it at: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2012/07/famous-family-trees-victoria- pendleton/ Those who have seen her frequent appearances in the press or looked her up online will know that, besides being a brilliant track cyclist, Victoria Pendleton is also very glamorous and has posed for some "interesting" photos in magazines. Of course, I concentrated entirely on her family history! I have sent this to Genbrit, also the Nottinghamshire and Hertfordshire lists (the latter because though she is not from Hertfordshire originally, her family have lived in Hitchin for some considerable time). Could I beseech a favour and ask if some kind person would mind passing the above website link on to the Leicestershire and Bedfordshire lists? I am not a member of any lists in those counties but 1) Victoria Pendleton's earliest ancestors I could trace were from Leicester and 2) she was brought up and went to school at Stotfold in Bedfordshire where she is something of a local heroine. Many thanks! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- My web site is now at http://www.jimella.me.uk Family history, Gardening, Humour, Politics and more ...and blogs at http://jimella.livejournal.com and http://jimella.wordpress.com

Bit of a late reply, I know, but I find this site very helpful in determining if its my computer with the problem, or the whole site http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Just type in the url that you're trying to access, and it will let you know if its up & running or down. I hope others find this useful too Sandra -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012 7:58 PM To: J FLEETWOOD; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] IGI Hi June I know its only terminology but the IGI (on old familysearch) is working As is newfamilysearch So I suspect the problem is on your computer (but could be your ISP) I would suggest clearing cache, temp internet files etc as that usually sorts the problem out When you find your way back to familysearch, you might like to try http://www.archersoftware.co.uk/igi/index.htm as an alternative to Hugh Wallis's site which has not been updated for some ten years now Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Good morning list >>From a dull & rather cold West Yorkshire. At least it has stopped raining for now...... > Is anyone else experiencing problems with access to Family Search.org, or is it just me? > I have tried for a few days now & get as far as entering the details & pressing 'send'. The next > page comes up & my little wheel keeps turning & turning & turning & nothing else happens. I know > Ancestry is 'fiddling' with their site at the moment but what is happening to the IGI site? > I have even tried the link with the Hugh Wallis site with the same affect. > Can anyone help me please........... > June Fleetwood > West Yorkshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sandra As you bring it up, I suspect most will have realised by now that the Old IGI is now no more The IGI is now accessible via newfamilysearch (select All record Collections and when the list is loaded enter IGI in the search box) There is a useful webinar on searching familysearch and the IGI here <http://broadcast.lds.org/eLearning/fhd/Community/en/FamilySearch/Product_Webinars/Robert_Kehrer_-_June_21_2012/Player.html> The new IGI accesses just extracted data so far with submitted to come Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/07/2012 08:26, Sandra wrote: > > Bit of a late reply, I know, but I find this site very helpful in > determining if its my computer with the problem, or the whole site > http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Just type in the url that you're > trying to access, and it will let you know if its up & running or down. > I hope others find this useful too > Sandra

Hello Listers Any one tracing the RUSSELL family from GREAT EASTON. WILLIAM RUSSELL & ELIZA RUSSELL ne WARD Married 1856 And any siblings from this marriage. Regards Sue in OZ

Does anyone have connections with Joseph Ward, victualler, listed as such in Snareston, Leics in 1700's. Also had connections with Ratcliffe Culey and Sheepy. Cannot find any BMD for him. Sent from my iPad

I am researching the above family who is my husband's greatgrandfather. Have info on them after they came to Nova Scotia and some info on them while they were in England. Interested in hearing from anybody who is researching this family. Wondering if there is someone by the name of Helen Windle on this list as she is researching O'Keefe's in Leicestershire who I think are the ones I am researching. Thanks, Kathy

Very well said Emma. My thoughts go out to the rest of Keith's family during this time of adjustment in your lives. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emma Faulkner Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012 5:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] Keith Hammond Been wondering why the death of someone I didn't know should affect me so. I have lost more than my fair share of close family and friends in the last year, including my Dad, his brother and an uncle-in-law, but I don't think that's it. I think John Donne said it best (posting in the original English since we're a historical group!): I think these words will probably resonate with you all... *No man is an iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee....* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Been wondering why the death of someone I didn't know should affect me so. I have lost more than my fair share of close family and friends in the last year, including my Dad, his brother and an uncle-in-law, but I don't think that's it. I think John Donne said it best (posting in the original English since we're a historical group!): I think these words will probably resonate with you all... *No man is an iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee....*

Marilyn Thank you so much for this information. I didn't know when Clara died, so this is great to know. Janice > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:09:44 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] Welford Road Cemetery lookup > > Janice: > > I have the Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester, Burial Registers 1849-1950. > > Albert Edward WAIT of 25 Baden Road, Leicester, was buried Nov 9, 1940, age 73. > Clara WAIT of 25 Baden Road, Leicester, was buried Feb 15, 1940, age 73. > > They would seem to be buried in adjacent plots. > > Hope this is of help. > > Marilyn in Oregon USA > > > On Jun 27, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Janice Cassani wrote: > > > > > I would like to know if Albert Edward Wait (died 6 Nov 1940) is buried at Welford Road Cemtery. > > > > His wife's name was Clara Bentley Wait. I am wondering if she is buried with Albert. > > > > If someone has a listing of Welford Rd. listings, could they please look this up for me? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Janice Cassani (Massachusetts, USA) > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to know if Albert Edward Wait (died 6 Nov 1940) is buried at Welford Road Cemtery. His wife's name was Clara Bentley Wait. I am wondering if she is buried with Albert. If someone has a listing of Welford Rd. listings, could they please look this up for me? Thank you. Janice Cassani (Massachusetts, USA)

Janice: I have the Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester, Burial Registers 1849-1950. Albert Edward WAIT of 25 Baden Road, Leicester, was buried Nov 9, 1940, age 73. Clara WAIT of 25 Baden Road, Leicester, was buried Feb 15, 1940, age 73. They would seem to be buried in adjacent plots. Hope this is of help. Marilyn in Oregon USA On Jun 27, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Janice Cassani wrote: > > I would like to know if Albert Edward Wait (died 6 Nov 1940) is buried at Welford Road Cemtery. > > His wife's name was Clara Bentley Wait. I am wondering if she is buried with Albert. > > If someone has a listing of Welford Rd. listings, could they please look this up for me? > > Thank you. > > Janice Cassani (Massachusetts, USA) > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm so sorry to hear of the untimely death of Keith. I worked with him on the Willett family and others for many years. He will be sadly missed by us all. Marilyn Oregon USA On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:26 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > This is very sad news. I have been working with Keith photographing > headstones over the last eighteen months. I e-mailed him just yesterday > because I had not heard from him in a while. My sincere condolences to his > family. > > Mike Clooney > Loughborough > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:leicestershire- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of WYDRA >> Sent: 20 June 2012 18:53 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [LEI] KEITH HAMMOND Obit. >> >> 'To all those who knew Keith HAMMOND of Malta and answered his queries so >> willingly. >> >> We who worked with him on the WILLETT family regret to announce he died on >> June 10, 2012 in Malta at the age of 46 years after a brave fight. >> >> We shall miss his cheerful "Thanks a million" and humble requests that he >> called 'pestering.' Thanks to his persistence we obtained a great deal of >> information about the family back to the 1600's and on a wider scale as we >> researched in countries throughout the world. He was predeceased by his >> younger sister a few years ago and our sympathy is extended to his family >> members. To them and all of his friends in Malta, we send our >> condolences.' >> >> Jane McLEAN in UK and Alison U. RING in Canada >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is very sad news. I have been working with Keith photographing headstones over the last eighteen months. I e-mailed him just yesterday because I had not heard from him in a while. My sincere condolences to his family. Mike Clooney Loughborough > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:leicestershire- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of WYDRA > Sent: 20 June 2012 18:53 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEI] KEITH HAMMOND Obit. > > 'To all those who knew Keith HAMMOND of Malta and answered his queries so > willingly. > > We who worked with him on the WILLETT family regret to announce he died on > June 10, 2012 in Malta at the age of 46 years after a brave fight. > > We shall miss his cheerful "Thanks a million" and humble requests that he > called 'pestering.' Thanks to his persistence we obtained a great deal of > information about the family back to the 1600's and on a wider scale as we > researched in countries throughout the world. He was predeceased by his > younger sister a few years ago and our sympathy is extended to his family > members. To them and all of his friends in Malta, we send our > condolences.' > > Jane McLEAN in UK and Alison U. RING in Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message