Thanks Mike Correct, no luck finding a baptism for either William or his brother Joseph (born 1775). They were Baptists which might explain the lack of baptism records. But, I am not sure that William's family were Baptists or whether he made the change later on. William married Hannah Varnham at St Mary's, Coleorton in 1796. This would have been required by law. But his first two children were baptised at St Mary's. The third was also born at Coleorton, but I can't find her baptism. He then moved to Derbyshire and then Gloucestershire where his other children were born. As for wills, I have several. One is a will of Joseph Stinson (1816) who was a hatmaker. He mentions a number of children, some with names other than Stinson. The first two mentioned are William and Joseph, but there is no indication of their occupations or where they lived, so I can't identify whether they are my people. I do have baptisms for some of the other children who were born after 1775, so my William and and Joseph would fit nicely into the family (assuming the children were mentioned in order of birth). I have been told, but have not been able to verify, that one of William's partners when he was in Gloucestershire was a Stephen Stenson, hatter. This could fit in with hatmaker Joseph. There was a burial of a Stephen Stenson 12 Apr 1835 in Coleorton I wonder if there is a will for him? I have the Coleorton BT's at my local LDS centre. I also have the Leicsview CD. I do wonder whether the St Mary's original Parish registers are available, which might have additional entries or further information. Having probably already confused everyone with my ramblings, I shall stop at this point. Any ideas would be appreciated. Vern On 7 August 2013 17:42, Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern, > > I've never come across school records going back that far. Sometimes there > are Sunday School records that show who the parents of a child were, but > again, those usually only go back to the early 19th century. Presumably > you've had no luck finding a baptism ? What about wills ? Another > possibility is if the family held their property by copyhold, which would > mean that the son would have to go to the manor court to get the property > transferred to him on the death of his parents. He would not automatically > inherit it. I'm not sure whether it came under the de Lisle family or the > Beaumonts. I think it's one or the other. I plan to take a look at the de > Lisle manuscripts at the Record Office soon, so I'll keep a look out for > Stensons/Stinsons. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern > Prescott > Sent: 07 August 2013 18:43 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LEI] Old school records > > I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school records > surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might > help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 > in Cole-Orton. > > Vern in lovely SW Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mick That's fine go right ahead. By CWG do you mean the Commonwealth War Graves site? If so here is the link to the page with James Maycock on it: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/29711/MAYCOCK,%20JAMES I don't have much information about him during the war as his records seem to be among those lost however I do have the records for his 2 brothers which is how I found out one was killed by friendly fire - its quite fascinating with handwritten eyewitness accounts and comments from various different ranks right up to the very top! And thanks that is interesting to know that he probably would have been employed as a gardner. Kind regards Andrea Senn Auckland, NZ -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael wilson Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013 6:56 p.m. To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Cc: dsen@ihug.co.nz Subject: [LEI] re Leicester City Transport War Memorial Andrea : - thanks for your reply . Would you have any objections if I recorded James Maycock into a spreadsheet that I am preparing about those mentioned on the memorial which I intend to lodge with Leicestershire County archives and also Leics and Rutland Family History Society and perhaps others who are collating details so that these brave men will not just be names for others to see . Have already made a start but it is not easy to find them on CWG or other lists as many did not join the Leicestershire Regiment . It would be pretty certain that he was an employee at what was then Leicester City Tramways , am aware that we had blacksmiths , paviours ,carpenters ,trimmers , gardeners , housepainters well into the 1960/70,s . Mick Wilson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Nivard, I was afraid that was the case. William was a collier engineer, but whether that meant he was "schooled" or just that he trained on the job I wouldn't know. I seem to remember reading that George Stephenson had tutors to learn mathematics and such but that he taught himself about engineering. Vern On 7 August 2013 14:13, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Vern > > Apart from the odd posh school there weren't any formal schools for the > hoi polloi as such in that period > > Especially so in a back water like Coleorton > > If they were rich enough to have schooling they would either have a > governess or tutor or be sent away to school somewhere like Rugby > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 07/08/2013 18:43, Vern Prescott wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school > records > > surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might > > help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 > > in Cole-Orton. > > > > Vern in lovely SW Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school records surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 in Cole-Orton. Vern in lovely SW Ontario

Andrea : - thanks for your reply . Would you have any objections if I recorded James Maycock into a spreadsheet that I am preparing about those mentioned on the memorial which I intend to lodge with Leicestershire County archives and also Leics and Rutland Family History Society and perhaps others who are collating details so that these brave men will not just be names for others to see . Have already made a start but it is not easy to find them on CWG or other lists as many did not join the Leicestershire Regiment . It would be pretty certain that he was an employee at what was then Leicester City Tramways , am aware that we had blacksmiths , paviours ,carpenters ,trimmers , gardeners , housepainters well into the 1960/70,s . Mick Wilson

Hello The James Maycock you have in the WW1 list is my great great uncle. He joined the Leicestershire regiment and then later was a Pioneer in the 4th Battalion of the Special Brigade of the Royal Engineers. He died from the effects of gas on 9 Oct 1916 in France, leaving a wife and 2 children. I don't know why he is listed on the Transport War Memorial - would it be something to do with his occupation? At the 1911 census his occupation is an assistant gardner. He also had 2 brothers George and Thomas Maycock in the Leicestershire regiment who were both also killed in 1916, one of them by friendly fire in a training camp! So not a good year for the Maycock family. Their sister Lily is my great grandmother and she emigrated to New Zealand in 1924. Kind regards Andrea Senn Auckland, NZ -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael wilson Sent: Sunday, 4 August 2013 7:53 p.m. To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Leicester City Transport War Memorial having copied the names from the war memorial whilst I worked there I would be most pleased for any assistance of details of any of those mentioned - details below :- W W 1 Forenames Surname Reginald J A Abbott Joseph W Barnett Henry Oscar Bates Robert Bell Charles Thomas Berrill William A Birch Robert Booth Percey W Bowley William Henry Broughton Albert Ernest Bunn Albert Burdett Sidney Bustin Charles Ottaway Cave Thomas Chambers Arthur Edward Chapman Thomas A Clarke Frank Cook George F Cooke John William Deacon Thomas W Dickenson George Dumford Ernest Edwards William Evans Charles E Eyles Frederick Freeman Albert Henry Frisby Thomas Goldsbury Herbert G Graves William John Greasley Walter Greenwood Leonard Peter Grimes John Grove Thomas Hall Sidney Harris Thomas Higgins George Hill John Holland Harry Hornsey Benjamin Arthur Hughes Arthur V Hunt Henry Hunt John W Inchley Arthur Jackson Clifford Henry Knox William H Leader Harold W Makepeace Alan Marshall William John Mason James Maycock Albert Mills William Henry Neale Harry Norman Harold Pell Wilfred W Renwick Thomas V Richards Sidney Edward Riley George Simpson Edwin T Slater George Arthur Gadesby Smith George B Smith William Smith William Henry Sperry Frank Sturgess George Henry Sutton Fred Upton George Webster George Wheildon Ernest E Winters James W Woolloff W W 2 Forenames Surname Jack Bonner Eric Murray Debney Thomas Reginald Gamble Arthur Alfred Lewitt Sydney Albert Letts Arthur Samuel Mills George Horace Parbury James Stevens John Allan Wickson thanks in advance, Mick Wilson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

and next time spell check first - sorry all Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "Balloon Expedition Co." <balexped@ihug.co.nz> To: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com>; <nottsgen@rootsweb.com>; <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Effects of The Crimea War > anohter vbery inmteresting book based around WW1 is TheSandcastle Girls by > Chris Bohjalian - real eye opener > > Di Mckee > AUckland > New Zealalnd researching VICKERS NOtts, Canada, Colorado, and USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> > To: <nottsgen@rootsweb.com>; <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 10:32 PM > Subject: [NTT] Effects of The Crimea War > > >>I am not a great reader of novels, but one author I particularly like is >> Sebastian Faulks. >> >> >> >> Probably the best known of his novels is "Birdsong", generally recognised >> as >> one of the best novels (if one can use this adjective for such horror) >> about >> The First World War. This focuses on something which to me was an unknown >> element of this conflict until I'd read the book, namely that of the >> tactic >> of soldiers tunnelling under German lines to place explosives, with them >> operating vice-versa. It also has local connections given that most of >> the >> tunnels were being dug by ex-Nottinghamshire miners. If you've never read >> it >> I can fully recommend it, though it doesn't pull any punches in telling >> of >> the horrors of The Great War. >> >> >> >> However that is not the main point of this email. I have just read one of >> his recent novels, "A Possible Life", which actually is a collection of >> short stories that end up having links - but I won't spoil it for those >> who >> may want to read it by saying anymore. >> >> >> >> One of the stories follows the life of a young boy from his childhood in >> the >> mid 1800's through to the end of that century. His father had been a >> shoemaker in London employing several people but the business collapsed >> because of The Crimea War and the boy had to be put in The Workhouse. The >> reasons given were twofold - the shortage of male workers, and a massive >> rise in price for leather. Now I know that Sebastian Faulks does >> impeccable >> research for his novels, so I have little doubt that what is related in >> the >> novel is correct. However I can find nothing about this on the internet - >> not a massive search though, I have to admit - so I wondered if any other >> family historians here can shed light on this. I think most of us know >> about >> the economic and social changes brought about by the First World War, and >> certainly World War 2. Some of us knowing first-hand about the latter, >> even >> if like me it was only the rationing and lack of certain things in the >> immediate post-war period. >> >> >> >> So the question I am asking is, does anyone know of any paper written on >> the >> social and economic effects of this war - apart from the obvious Florence >> Nightingale ones? And moreover does anyone have a leather working >> ancestor >> (shoemaker etc) in their tree, who too went from being relatively >> well-off >> to ending up poor and even in The Workhouse? If they did, then the >> reasons >> used in this novel may explain the situation. >> >> >> >> Brian Binns >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Brian, have you seen the movie Beneath Hill 60, only made pretty recenty, its about the tunnelling by soldiers of various countries.. Jenelle.. -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Binns Sent: Sunday, 4 August 2013 8:33 PM To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Effects of The Crimea War I am not a great reader of novels, but one author I particularly like is Sebastian Faulks. Probably the best known of his novels is "Birdsong", generally recognised as one of the best novels (if one can use this adjective for such horror) about The First World War. This focuses on something which to me was an unknown element of this conflict until I'd read the book, namely that of the tactic of soldiers tunnelling under German lines to place explosives, with them operating vice-versa. It also has local connections given that most of the tunnels were being dug by ex-Nottinghamshire miners. If you've never read it I can fully recommend it, though it doesn't pull any punches in telling of the horrors of The Great War. However that is not the main point of this email. I have just read one of his recent novels, "A Possible Life", which actually is a collection of short stories that end up having links - but I won't spoil it for those who may want to read it by saying anymore. One of the stories follows the life of a young boy from his childhood in the mid 1800's through to the end of that century. His father had been a shoemaker in London employing several people but the business collapsed because of The Crimea War and the boy had to be put in The Workhouse. The reasons given were twofold - the shortage of male workers, and a massive rise in price for leather. Now I know that Sebastian Faulks does impeccable research for his novels, so I have little doubt that what is related in the novel is correct. However I can find nothing about this on the internet - not a massive search though, I have to admit - so I wondered if any other family historians here can shed light on this. I think most of us know about the economic and social changes brought about by the First World War, and certainly World War 2. Some of us knowing first-hand about the latter, even if like me it was only the rationing and lack of certain things in the immediate post-war period. So the question I am asking is, does anyone know of any paper written on the social and economic effects of this war - apart from the obvious Florence Nightingale ones? And moreover does anyone have a leather working ancestor (shoemaker etc) in their tree, who too went from being relatively well-off to ending up poor and even in The Workhouse? If they did, then the reasons used in this novel may explain the situation. Brian Binns ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

anohter vbery inmteresting book based around WW1 is TheSandcastle Girls by Chris Bohjalian - real eye opener Di Mckee AUckland New Zealalnd researching VICKERS NOtts, Canada, Colorado, and USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> To: <nottsgen@rootsweb.com>; <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [NTT] Effects of The Crimea War >I am not a great reader of novels, but one author I particularly like is > Sebastian Faulks. > > > > Probably the best known of his novels is "Birdsong", generally recognised > as > one of the best novels (if one can use this adjective for such horror) > about > The First World War. This focuses on something which to me was an unknown > element of this conflict until I'd read the book, namely that of the > tactic > of soldiers tunnelling under German lines to place explosives, with them > operating vice-versa. It also has local connections given that most of the > tunnels were being dug by ex-Nottinghamshire miners. If you've never read > it > I can fully recommend it, though it doesn't pull any punches in telling of > the horrors of The Great War. > > > > However that is not the main point of this email. I have just read one of > his recent novels, "A Possible Life", which actually is a collection of > short stories that end up having links - but I won't spoil it for those > who > may want to read it by saying anymore. > > > > One of the stories follows the life of a young boy from his childhood in > the > mid 1800's through to the end of that century. His father had been a > shoemaker in London employing several people but the business collapsed > because of The Crimea War and the boy had to be put in The Workhouse. The > reasons given were twofold - the shortage of male workers, and a massive > rise in price for leather. Now I know that Sebastian Faulks does > impeccable > research for his novels, so I have little doubt that what is related in > the > novel is correct. However I can find nothing about this on the internet - > not a massive search though, I have to admit - so I wondered if any other > family historians here can shed light on this. I think most of us know > about > the economic and social changes brought about by the First World War, and > certainly World War 2. Some of us knowing first-hand about the latter, > even > if like me it was only the rationing and lack of certain things in the > immediate post-war period. > > > > So the question I am asking is, does anyone know of any paper written on > the > social and economic effects of this war - apart from the obvious Florence > Nightingale ones? And moreover does anyone have a leather working ancestor > (shoemaker etc) in their tree, who too went from being relatively well-off > to ending up poor and even in The Workhouse? If they did, then the reasons > used in this novel may explain the situation. > > > > Brian Binns > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian This is very interesting. My gg grandfather was a cordwainer and leather dresser who at the time of the 1841 census was living and working in Bermondsey with his wife and children. Following his wife's death in 1849, he and the younger children ended up in the workhouse where he died from bronchitis five years later. I had always assumed that they went into the workhouse simply because my gg grandfather couldn't mange to look after the family on his own but now your email has made me wonder whether his business might not have suffered a down-turn as well. Thank you for sharing this with the List. Lizzie On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Brian Binns <bnbinns@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not a great reader of novels, but one author I particularly like is > Sebastian Faulks. > I have just read one of his recent novels, "A Possible Life", which actually is a collection of > short stories that end up having links > One of the stories follows the life of a young boy from his childhood in the > mid 1800's through to the end of that century. His father had been a > shoemaker in London employing several people but the business collapsed > because of The Crimea War and the boy had to be put in The Workhouse. The > reasons given were twofold - the shortage of male workers, and a massive > rise in price for leather. Now I know that Sebastian Faulks does impeccable > research for his novels, so I have little doubt that what is related in the > novel is correct. However I can find nothing about this on the internet - > not a massive search though, I have to admit - so I wondered if any other > family historians here can shed light on this. > > And moreover does anyone have a leather working ancestor > (shoemaker etc) in their tree, who too went from being relatively well-off > to ending up poor and even in The Workhouse? If they did, then the reasons > used in this novel may explain the situation. > > > > Brian Binns > >

This is why I love this list. Such wonderfully interesting things continue to pop up. Thanks for sharing! Carolyn Minnesota USA -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andrea Senn Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 6:11 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Leicester City Transport War Memorial Hello The James Maycock you have in the WW1 list is my great great uncle. He joined the Leicestershire regiment and then later was a Pioneer in the 4th Battalion of the Special Brigade of the Royal Engineers. He died from the effects of gas on 9 Oct 1916 in France, leaving a wife and 2 children. I don't know why he is listed on the Transport War Memorial - would it be something to do with his occupation? At the 1911 census his occupation is an assistant gardner. He also had 2 brothers George and Thomas Maycock in the Leicestershire regiment who were both also killed in 1916, one of them by friendly fire in a training camp! So not a good year for the Maycock family. Their sister Lily is my great grandmother and she emigrated to New Zealand in 1924. Kind regards Andrea Senn Auckland, NZ -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael wilson Sent: Sunday, 4 August 2013 7:53 p.m. To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Leicester City Transport War Memorial having copied the names from the war memorial whilst I worked there I would be most pleased for any assistance of details of any of those mentioned - details below :- W W 1 Forenames Surname Reginald J A Abbott Joseph W Barnett Henry Oscar Bates Robert Bell Charles Thomas Berrill William A Birch Robert Booth Percey W Bowley William Henry Broughton Albert Ernest Bunn Albert Burdett Sidney Bustin Charles Ottaway Cave Thomas Chambers Arthur Edward Chapman Thomas A Clarke Frank Cook George F Cooke John William Deacon Thomas W Dickenson George Dumford Ernest Edwards William Evans Charles E Eyles Frederick Freeman Albert Henry Frisby Thomas Goldsbury Herbert G Graves William John Greasley Walter Greenwood Leonard Peter Grimes John Grove Thomas Hall Sidney Harris Thomas Higgins George Hill John Holland Harry Hornsey Benjamin Arthur Hughes Arthur V Hunt Henry Hunt John W Inchley Arthur Jackson Clifford Henry Knox William H Leader Harold W Makepeace Alan Marshall William John Mason James Maycock Albert Mills William Henry Neale Harry Norman Harold Pell Wilfred W Renwick Thomas V Richards Sidney Edward Riley George Simpson Edwin T Slater George Arthur Gadesby Smith George B Smith William Smith William Henry Sperry Frank Sturgess George Henry Sutton Fred Upton George Webster George Wheildon Ernest E Winters James W Woolloff W W 2 Forenames Surname Jack Bonner Eric Murray Debney Thomas Reginald Gamble Arthur Alfred Lewitt Sydney Albert Letts Arthur Samuel Mills George Horace Parbury James Stevens John Allan Wickson thanks in advance, Mick Wilson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list. could someone with access to army records please search for george thomas bennett around. c1900 on his daughters birth cert in 1904 he is listed as ln 17th leicestersgire reg poss wigston glen pava barracks

Hi Annette Many thanks for your help.   Will look into this option.   This is not a source I have used before in the many years I have been researching my family trees, but always willing to try areas new. Thank you once again. Best wishes June Fleetwood West Yorkshire ________________________________ From: Annette Watson <annete@aapt.net.au> To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 4 August 2013, 0:36 Subject: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. Hi June, The Noseley BTs are available on  LDS film # 592589 Item 2 - item 1 is for Norton-juxta-Twycross, Leic.  Films can be viewed at your local LDS FHC but need to be ordered by you on line via the LDS website -www.familysearch.org/films you need to set up an account which can then be paid for by credit card or Paypal. The LDS FHC director will notify you when the film has arrived at your local centre,  I have been using LDS films since 1986 and always verify any information I find by ordering in the relevant film.  In Australia we pay $7.75 for just over a months hire. I hope this helps in some way, happy hunting, Annette WATSON Lismore Australia At 07:29 PM 3/08/2013, you wrote: >According to the FreeREG Leicestershire. the Parish Records have not been >transcribed > >it looks like it's waiting for some kind scribe to tackle it > >The County Coordinator is Robert Freeston > >Bill Stratton >Cole Harbour NS Canada >Scribe FreeREG Lins. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "J FLEETWOOD" <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com> >To: "Connie" <connie.sparrer@gmail.com>; <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:48 PM >Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. > > >Hello Connie >Thank you for replying. Of course I have already searched Family Search, >Free REG, & FMP & many more sources I have access to. >Sometimes researchers are willing to share their sources, & as I have the >Parish Records on microfiche for Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Smeeton >Westerby & Saddington, Leicestershire & have helped others in the past, I >thought it was worth seeing if anyone had access to similar records for >Noseley who would be willing to do a look-up for me. I know Noseley which is >quite a small parish & there would have been only one family, possibly a >farmer, by the name of PABODY, PABODIE, PEABODY etc. On the old IGI Hugh >Wallis site the parish records for Noseley are listed as from in the 1500s, >so that is why I have detailed this date. >This family are connected to the Pabodies who emigrated to New England & >their records are well documented & this is where I found the reference to >Noseley. So the search would only have covered a few years not 500 as you >suggested. >The only other reason why they are not to be found in Parish Records is that >they may have been non-conformists although I have no evidence of this to >date. >Yes I have tried 'Tribal Pages' & 'GOONS'. >June Fleetwood >West Yorkshire > > > > >________________________________ >  From: Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> >To: J FLEETWOOD <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com>; >leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com >Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013, 19:53 >Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. > > >J FLEETWOOD wrote: > > Hi List > > > > Does anyone have access to these Parish Records?  I am looking for any > > PABODIE, PAYBODY, PEABODY, PEBERDY (or any of the various spellings) > > christenings, marriages & burials from the 1500s onwards. > > I have found reference to births & deaths in this parish. > >Hallo > >That's an awful lot of looking up - 500 years. What does FamilySearch, >FreeREG and FMP have that could help you. Does Leicestershire Family History >Society have any CDs you could purchase? Is there any mention of these names >in this list's archives? > >You say you have references to baptisms and burials in the parish. What >dates specifically? Do you have actual names? Where did you find these? > >Have you tried Tribal Pages or >  GOONS? > >-- Connie >http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not a great reader of novels, but one author I particularly like is Sebastian Faulks. Probably the best known of his novels is "Birdsong", generally recognised as one of the best novels (if one can use this adjective for such horror) about The First World War. This focuses on something which to me was an unknown element of this conflict until I'd read the book, namely that of the tactic of soldiers tunnelling under German lines to place explosives, with them operating vice-versa. It also has local connections given that most of the tunnels were being dug by ex-Nottinghamshire miners. If you've never read it I can fully recommend it, though it doesn't pull any punches in telling of the horrors of The Great War. However that is not the main point of this email. I have just read one of his recent novels, "A Possible Life", which actually is a collection of short stories that end up having links - but I won't spoil it for those who may want to read it by saying anymore. One of the stories follows the life of a young boy from his childhood in the mid 1800's through to the end of that century. His father had been a shoemaker in London employing several people but the business collapsed because of The Crimea War and the boy had to be put in The Workhouse. The reasons given were twofold - the shortage of male workers, and a massive rise in price for leather. Now I know that Sebastian Faulks does impeccable research for his novels, so I have little doubt that what is related in the novel is correct. However I can find nothing about this on the internet - not a massive search though, I have to admit - so I wondered if any other family historians here can shed light on this. I think most of us know about the economic and social changes brought about by the First World War, and certainly World War 2. Some of us knowing first-hand about the latter, even if like me it was only the rationing and lack of certain things in the immediate post-war period. So the question I am asking is, does anyone know of any paper written on the social and economic effects of this war - apart from the obvious Florence Nightingale ones? And moreover does anyone have a leather working ancestor (shoemaker etc) in their tree, who too went from being relatively well-off to ending up poor and even in The Workhouse? If they did, then the reasons used in this novel may explain the situation. Brian Binns

Thank you for your e-mail.   Unfortunately I am busy with other transcription commitments at the moment or I would offer to transcribe NOSELEY for you.  Will see if I can help later. By the way, I have not forgotten the transcriptions of Smeeton Westerby & Saddington.   How I wish there were more hours in a day.............. June Fleetwood West Yorkshire   ________________________________ From: "bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca" <bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca> To: J FLEETWOOD <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com>; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com; Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 10:29 Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. According to the FreeREG Leicestershire. the Parish Records have not been transcribed it looks like it's waiting for some kind scribe to tackle it The County Coordinator is Robert Freeston Bill Stratton Cole Harbour NS Canada Scribe FreeREG Lins. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J FLEETWOOD" <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com> To: "Connie" <connie.sparrer@gmail.com>; <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. Hello Connie Thank you for replying. Of course I have already searched Family Search, Free REG, & FMP & many more sources I have access to. Sometimes researchers are willing to share their sources, & as I have the Parish Records on microfiche for Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Smeeton Westerby & Saddington, Leicestershire & have helped others in the past, I thought it was worth seeing if anyone had access to similar records for Noseley who would be willing to do a look-up for me. I know Noseley which is quite a small parish & there would have been only one family, possibly a farmer, by the name of PABODY, PABODIE, PEABODY etc. On the old IGI Hugh Wallis site the parish records for Noseley are listed as from in the 1500s, so that is why I have detailed this date. This family are connected to the Pabodies who emigrated to New England & their records are well documented & this is where I found the reference to Noseley. So the search would only have covered a few years not 500 as you suggested. The only other reason why they are not to be found in Parish Records is that they may have been non-conformists although I have no evidence of this to date. Yes I have tried 'Tribal Pages' & 'GOONS'. June Fleetwood West Yorkshire ________________________________ From: Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> To: J FLEETWOOD <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com>; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013, 19:53 Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. J FLEETWOOD wrote: > Hi List > > Does anyone have access to these Parish Records?  I am looking for any PABODIE, PAYBODY, PEABODY, PEBERDY (or any of the various spellings) christenings, marriages & burials from the 1500s onwards. > I have found reference to births & deaths in this parish. Hallo That's an awful lot of looking up - 500 years. What does FamilySearch, FreeREG and FMP have that could help you. Does Leicestershire Family History Society have any CDs you could purchase? Is there any mention of these names in this list's archives? You say you have references to baptisms and burials in the parish. What dates specifically? Do you have actual names? Where did you find these? Have you tried Tribal Pages or GOONS? -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi June, The Noseley BTs are available on LDS film # 592589 Item 2 - item 1 is for Norton-juxta-Twycross, Leic. Films can be viewed at your local LDS FHC but need to be ordered by you on line via the LDS website -www.familysearch.org/films you need to set up an account which can then be paid for by credit card or Paypal. The LDS FHC director will notify you when the film has arrived at your local centre, I have been using LDS films since 1986 and always verify any information I find by ordering in the relevant film. In Australia we pay $7.75 for just over a months hire. I hope this helps in some way, happy hunting, Annette WATSON Lismore Australia At 07:29 PM 3/08/2013, you wrote: >According to the FreeREG Leicestershire. the Parish Records have not been >transcribed > >it looks like it's waiting for some kind scribe to tackle it > >The County Coordinator is Robert Freeston > >Bill Stratton >Cole Harbour NS Canada >Scribe FreeREG Lins. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "J FLEETWOOD" <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com> >To: "Connie" <connie.sparrer@gmail.com>; <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:48 PM >Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. > > >Hello Connie >Thank you for replying. Of course I have already searched Family Search, >Free REG, & FMP & many more sources I have access to. >Sometimes researchers are willing to share their sources, & as I have the >Parish Records on microfiche for Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Smeeton >Westerby & Saddington, Leicestershire & have helped others in the past, I >thought it was worth seeing if anyone had access to similar records for >Noseley who would be willing to do a look-up for me. I know Noseley which is >quite a small parish & there would have been only one family, possibly a >farmer, by the name of PABODY, PABODIE, PEABODY etc. On the old IGI Hugh >Wallis site the parish records for Noseley are listed as from in the 1500s, >so that is why I have detailed this date. >This family are connected to the Pabodies who emigrated to New England & >their records are well documented & this is where I found the reference to >Noseley. So the search would only have covered a few years not 500 as you >suggested. >The only other reason why they are not to be found in Parish Records is that >they may have been non-conformists although I have no evidence of this to >date. >Yes I have tried 'Tribal Pages' & 'GOONS'. >June Fleetwood >West Yorkshire > > > > >________________________________ > From: Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> >To: J FLEETWOOD <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com>; >leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com >Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013, 19:53 >Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. > > >J FLEETWOOD wrote: > > Hi List > > > > Does anyone have access to these Parish Records? I am looking for any > > PABODIE, PAYBODY, PEABODY, PEBERDY (or any of the various spellings) > > christenings, marriages & burials from the 1500s onwards. > > I have found reference to births & deaths in this parish. > >Hallo > >That's an awful lot of looking up - 500 years. What does FamilySearch, >FreeREG and FMP have that could help you. Does Leicestershire Family History >Society have any CDs you could purchase? Is there any mention of these names >in this list's archives? > >You say you have references to baptisms and burials in the parish. What >dates specifically? Do you have actual names? Where did you find these? > >Have you tried Tribal Pages or > GOONS? > >-- Connie >http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

having copied the names from the war memorial whilst I worked there I would be most pleased for any assistance of details of any of those mentioned - details below :- W W 1 Forenames Surname Reginald J A Abbott Joseph W Barnett Henry Oscar Bates Robert Bell Charles Thomas Berrill William A Birch Robert Booth Percey W Bowley William Henry Broughton Albert Ernest Bunn Albert Burdett Sidney Bustin Charles Ottaway Cave Thomas Chambers Arthur Edward Chapman Thomas A Clarke Frank Cook George F Cooke John William Deacon Thomas W Dickenson George Dumford Ernest Edwards William Evans Charles E Eyles Frederick Freeman Albert Henry Frisby Thomas Goldsbury Herbert G Graves William John Greasley Walter Greenwood Leonard Peter Grimes John Grove Thomas Hall Sidney Harris Thomas Higgins George Hill John Holland Harry Hornsey Benjamin Arthur Hughes Arthur V Hunt Henry Hunt John W Inchley Arthur Jackson Clifford Henry Knox William H Leader Harold W Makepeace Alan Marshall William John Mason James Maycock Albert Mills William Henry Neale Harry Norman Harold Pell Wilfred W Renwick Thomas V Richards Sidney Edward Riley George Simpson Edwin T Slater George Arthur Gadesby Smith George B Smith William Smith William Henry Sperry Frank Sturgess George Henry Sutton Fred Upton George Webster George Wheildon Ernest E Winters James W Woolloff W W 2 Forenames Surname Jack Bonner Eric Murray Debney Thomas Reginald Gamble Arthur Alfred Lewitt Sydney Albert Letts Arthur Samuel Mills George Horace Parbury James Stevens John Allan Wickson thanks in advance, Mick Wilson

According to the FreeREG Leicestershire. the Parish Records have not been transcribed it looks like it's waiting for some kind scribe to tackle it The County Coordinator is Robert Freeston Bill Stratton Cole Harbour NS Canada Scribe FreeREG Lins. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J FLEETWOOD" <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com> To: "Connie" <connie.sparrer@gmail.com>; <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. Hello Connie Thank you for replying. Of course I have already searched Family Search, Free REG, & FMP & many more sources I have access to. Sometimes researchers are willing to share their sources, & as I have the Parish Records on microfiche for Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Smeeton Westerby & Saddington, Leicestershire & have helped others in the past, I thought it was worth seeing if anyone had access to similar records for Noseley who would be willing to do a look-up for me. I know Noseley which is quite a small parish & there would have been only one family, possibly a farmer, by the name of PABODY, PABODIE, PEABODY etc. On the old IGI Hugh Wallis site the parish records for Noseley are listed as from in the 1500s, so that is why I have detailed this date. This family are connected to the Pabodies who emigrated to New England & their records are well documented & this is where I found the reference to Noseley. So the search would only have covered a few years not 500 as you suggested. The only other reason why they are not to be found in Parish Records is that they may have been non-conformists although I have no evidence of this to date. Yes I have tried 'Tribal Pages' & 'GOONS'. June Fleetwood West Yorkshire ________________________________ From: Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> To: J FLEETWOOD <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com>; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013, 19:53 Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. J FLEETWOOD wrote: > Hi List > > Does anyone have access to these Parish Records? I am looking for any > PABODIE, PAYBODY, PEABODY, PEBERDY (or any of the various spellings) > christenings, marriages & burials from the 1500s onwards. > I have found reference to births & deaths in this parish. Hallo That's an awful lot of looking up - 500 years. What does FamilySearch, FreeREG and FMP have that could help you. Does Leicestershire Family History Society have any CDs you could purchase? Is there any mention of these names in this list's archives? You say you have references to baptisms and burials in the parish. What dates specifically? Do you have actual names? Where did you find these? Have you tried Tribal Pages or GOONS? -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Connie Thank you for replying.   Of course I have already searched Family Search, Free REG, & FMP & many more sources I have access to. Sometimes researchers are willing to share their sources, & as I have the Parish Records on microfiche for Kibworth Beauchamp/Harcourt, Smeeton Westerby & Saddington, Leicestershire & have helped others in the past, I thought it was worth seeing if anyone had access to similar records for Noseley who would be willing to do a look-up for me.    I know Noseley which is quite a small parish & there would have been only one family, possibly a farmer, by the name of PABODY, PABODIE, PEABODY etc.   On the old IGI Hugh Wallis site the parish records for Noseley are listed as from in the 1500s, so that is why I have detailed this date.    This family are connected to the Pabodies who emigrated to New England & their records are well documented & this is where I found the reference to Noseley.   So the search would only have covered a few years not 500 as you suggested. The only other reason why they are not to be found in Parish Records is that they may have been non-conformists although I have no evidence of this to date. Yes I have tried 'Tribal Pages' & 'GOONS'. June Fleetwood West Yorkshire     ________________________________ From: Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> To: J FLEETWOOD <jafleetwood123@btinternet.com>; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013, 19:53 Subject: Re: [LEI] Noseley, Leicestershire Parish Records. J FLEETWOOD wrote: > Hi List > > Does anyone have access to these Parish Records?  I am looking for any PABODIE, PAYBODY, PEABODY, PEBERDY (or any of the various spellings) christenings, marriages & burials from the 1500s onwards. > I have found reference to births & deaths in this parish. Hallo That's an awful lot of looking up - 500 years.  What does FamilySearch, FreeREG and FMP have that could help you. Does Leicestershire Family History Society have any CDs you could purchase?  Is there any mention of these names in this list's archives? You say you have references to baptisms and burials in the parish. What dates specifically?  Do you have actual names?  Where did you find these? Have you tried Tribal Pages or GOONS? -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Many thanks for that info nivard most kind of you. Terry On Aug 2, 2013 7:45 PM, "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Terry > > Searching the GRO deaths finds several possibles but one in Leicestershire > > > England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Alice E White > Name: Alice E White > Birth Date: abt 1897 > Date of Registration: Mar 1929 > Age at Death: 32 > Registration District: Blaby > Inferred County: Leicestershire > Volume: 7a > Page: 124 > > There are two births to WHITE - BENNETT parentage in the right time > frame in Leicestershire > > An Ethel in 1921 and a Gwendoline in 1925 > > > England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Ethel J White > Name: Ethel J White > Mother's Maiden Surname: Bennett > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921 > Registration District: Blaby > Inferred County: Leicestershire > Volume Number: 7a > Page Number: 67 > > > England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Gwendolen I White > Name: Gwendolen I White > Mother's Maiden Surname: Bennett > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1925 > Registration District: Leicester > Inferred County: Leicestershire > Volume Number: 7a > Page Number: 244 > > No obvious sign of a Frederick J WHITE death in Leicestershire > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/08/2013 19:06, terence holmes wrote: > > Hi, trying to find any info on Alice everline bennett born wigston magna > > 21/12/1896. Father george thomas bennett also wigston magna. Alice > married > > a Frederick j white c1920 any info greatfully recived > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >