Thanks for this Mike. I was given to understand that this was an adult baptism when it was first given to me by Blanche. Vern On 9 August 2013 14:52, Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern, > > The Packington reference that Sue found looks interesting. I wouldn't > discount the possibility that it was the William for whom you're looking. > Although the Baptists did adopt adult baptisms, they also found that it > caused problems when it came to proving legally that someone should > inherit. > One solution was to register births in their church records, so it would be > worth checking whether this Packington record really was a baptism, or > merely a birth record. Since the name, date and place are right, I would > think it must be a possibility. > > You could check what 18th century records the Record Office holds for > Packington Baptist Church by telephoning them. It will be listed in a > folder of Baptist churches under "Packington", so it's easy for them to > find > the list and read it to you. See: > > <http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/community/museums/record_office.htm> > > If you can find out whether there is a list of members in 1770 and that it > includes a Stenson/Stinson family, but NOT a William, then that will be a > good indication that William is an infant. If there is only one husband & > wife with the surname, they are likely to be his parents. > > Best wishes, > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern > Prescott > Sent: 09 August 2013 12:18 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LEI] Old school records > > Thanks, Mike. > > The William whose baptism you found is not my ggggrandfather since he was > buried 29 May 1775. Joseph and Margaret named their next son William in > 1785. > > I think I have read something about a connection to the Beaumont estate, > but I have found nothing myself. I have read a few things about William > Stenson which I have tried to pursue with the authors, asking them about > their source. They never seem to know where it came from. I have read in > two places that William Stenson invented a slide rule for engineers but I > have not been able to find a papent. I DO know that he patented a steam > engine in 1816 and have a copy of the description and drawing that he > submitted. > > I am wondering whether the answers might lie in Worthington records. These > don't seem to be included in LeicView. > > Vern > > > > On 9 August 2013 05:21, Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi Vern, > > > > I took a look at some Coleorton records yesterday. I think I may have > > found > > your William: > > > > Coleorton Parish Register (checked 1773 - 1776) > > 1773 > > William son of Joseph & Margaret Stinson bapt Dec 28 > > 1774 > > Thomas son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Jan 9 > > 1776 > > John son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Apr 7 > > > > Couldn't see any others in the period, but reading the register was > > difficult, so can't guarantee I didn't miss some. > > > > Hugglescote & Coleorton Baptist church was formed in 1798. I checked the > > list of members from its formation up to 1828 and could not see a > > Stenson/Stinson there at all. An earlier Baptist church in the area was > > that at Barton in the Beans, so it's possible that your family were > members > > there, or as others have mentioned, the one in Melbourne. Although it > may > > seem strange that they did not transfer to Hugglescote & Coleorton when > it > > was founded, those early days were sometimes difficult for the Baptist > > movement. Eventually, there was a split, with the General Baptists going > > one way and the Particular Baptists another. It would not have been > unusual > > for a family to prefer a church that was not their "local". > > > > Baptist Sunday School records don't go back far enough for you, I'm > afraid. > > > > Unfortunately, it seems that the de Lisle and Beaumont family records > > (manorial court rolls) have largely not survived. I had a look at the > > Herrick family manuscripts, but they don't cover the right area. So > > probably > > nothing more in that direction. > > > > It really needs someone to spend 3 - 4 hours going through the parish > > registers - baptisms, marriages and burials - to find the members of the > > various Stinson families in Coleorton. They may even need to ask for the > > originals to be produced, where the film is difficult to read. It's a > > combination of faded writing, poor handwriting and, sometimes, slightly > out > > of focus filming. It also probably needs younger eyes than mine ;-). > > There are researchers who can be hired by the hour at reasonable rates. > I > > would suggest not using the Record Office themselves, as their rates are > > pretty high, which is reasonable when you're using their expertise, but > > this > > is a simple task, more suited to an independent researcher. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Mike Gould > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been reading this thread with interest since these are people who lived in the same towns and neighborhoods as the family I am researching. (If I can't find information on my own family, I'll read about someone else's family! Grin!) Seriously, could you please explain to this befuddled American what a Removal Order is? Thanks! Carolyn in Minnesota, USA -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gould Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:06 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Old school records Hi again Vern, Are you aware of the Removal Order for Joseph Stenson and family:

Hi Mike, Just out of curiousity, where did you find the Coleorton records? I have a subset of my family from the area and haven't been able to find much documentation about them (although I admit, I hadn't focused on them very hard yet). Concetta On Aug 9, 2013 4:26 AM, "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern, > > I took a look at some Coleorton records yesterday. I think I may have > found > your William: > > Coleorton Parish Register (checked 1773 - 1776) > 1773 > William son of Joseph & Margaret Stinson bapt Dec 28 > 1774 > Thomas son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Jan 9 > 1776 > John son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Apr 7 > > Couldn't see any others in the period, but reading the register was > difficult, so can't guarantee I didn't miss some. > > Hugglescote & Coleorton Baptist church was formed in 1798. I checked the > list of members from its formation up to 1828 and could not see a > Stenson/Stinson there at all. An earlier Baptist church in the area was > that at Barton in the Beans, so it's possible that your family were members > there, or as others have mentioned, the one in Melbourne. Although it may > seem strange that they did not transfer to Hugglescote & Coleorton when it > was founded, those early days were sometimes difficult for the Baptist > movement. Eventually, there was a split, with the General Baptists going > one way and the Particular Baptists another. It would not have been unusual > for a family to prefer a church that was not their "local". > > Baptist Sunday School records don't go back far enough for you, I'm afraid. > > Unfortunately, it seems that the de Lisle and Beaumont family records > (manorial court rolls) have largely not survived. I had a look at the > Herrick family manuscripts, but they don't cover the right area. So > probably > nothing more in that direction. > > It really needs someone to spend 3 - 4 hours going through the parish > registers - baptisms, marriages and burials - to find the members of the > various Stinson families in Coleorton. They may even need to ask for the > originals to be produced, where the film is difficult to read. It's a > combination of faded writing, poor handwriting and, sometimes, slightly out > of focus filming. It also probably needs younger eyes than mine ;-). > There are researchers who can be hired by the hour at reasonable rates. I > would suggest not using the Record Office themselves, as their rates are > pretty high, which is reasonable when you're using their expertise, but > this > is a simple task, more suited to an independent researcher. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern > Prescott > Sent: 07 August 2013 18:43 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LEI] Old school records > > I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school records > surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might > help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 > in Cole-Orton. > > Vern in lovely SW Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi and thanks, Geraldine Yes, I did have these and William and Hannah are my G G G Grandparents. Blanche Charles was very helpful a few years back, sending me quite a bit of Stenson information, including some wills. In 2007, I visited Coalville area and managed to see William's grave and take a few photos. The graveyard was supposed to be open, but was locked. Luckily there was a low wall at one point that we were able to easily climb over! Later the same day, I took a stroll through the Coalville Cemetery which was open, but somebody came and locked the gates while I was inside. The chap must have thought it a good joke and came back a few minutes later to release me. Vern

Hi Vern, I took a look at some Coleorton records yesterday. I think I may have found your William: Coleorton Parish Register (checked 1773 - 1776) 1773 William son of Joseph & Margaret Stinson bapt Dec 28 1774 Thomas son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Jan 9 1776 John son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Apr 7 Couldn't see any others in the period, but reading the register was difficult, so can't guarantee I didn't miss some. Hugglescote & Coleorton Baptist church was formed in 1798. I checked the list of members from its formation up to 1828 and could not see a Stenson/Stinson there at all. An earlier Baptist church in the area was that at Barton in the Beans, so it's possible that your family were members there, or as others have mentioned, the one in Melbourne. Although it may seem strange that they did not transfer to Hugglescote & Coleorton when it was founded, those early days were sometimes difficult for the Baptist movement. Eventually, there was a split, with the General Baptists going one way and the Particular Baptists another. It would not have been unusual for a family to prefer a church that was not their "local". Baptist Sunday School records don't go back far enough for you, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, it seems that the de Lisle and Beaumont family records (manorial court rolls) have largely not survived. I had a look at the Herrick family manuscripts, but they don't cover the right area. So probably nothing more in that direction. It really needs someone to spend 3 - 4 hours going through the parish registers - baptisms, marriages and burials - to find the members of the various Stinson families in Coleorton. They may even need to ask for the originals to be produced, where the film is difficult to read. It's a combination of faded writing, poor handwriting and, sometimes, slightly out of focus filming. It also probably needs younger eyes than mine ;-). There are researchers who can be hired by the hour at reasonable rates. I would suggest not using the Record Office themselves, as their rates are pretty high, which is reasonable when you're using their expertise, but this is a simple task, more suited to an independent researcher. Best wishes, Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern Prescott Sent: 07 August 2013 18:43 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Old school records I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school records surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 in Cole-Orton. Vern in lovely SW Ontario ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Vern, You may already have the following but I include it incase not. There is a possiblity in the Melbourne Baptist Register RG4/507 covering births 1754-1806, baptisms 1765-1793 and list of members 1770-1789. There are 2 entries for Stenson, the first in a list of members "Baptised att Packington July 24 1770 Wm Stenson [crossed through], Colorten Moor. The second entry is Wm Stenson in 'The number of Members, & their names which was in the Baptist Church att Melboun July ye 29th 1770'. As the Baptists practiced adult baptism might this be a possiblity for William's father? Sue

Thanks, Mike. The William whose baptism you found is not my ggggrandfather since he was buried 29 May 1775. Joseph and Margaret named their next son William in 1785. I think I have read something about a connection to the Beaumont estate, but I have found nothing myself. I have read a few things about William Stenson which I have tried to pursue with the authors, asking them about their source. They never seem to know where it came from. I have read in two places that William Stenson invented a slide rule for engineers but I have not been able to find a papent. I DO know that he patented a steam engine in 1816 and have a copy of the description and drawing that he submitted. I am wondering whether the answers might lie in Worthington records. These don't seem to be included in LeicView. Vern On 9 August 2013 05:21, Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern, > > I took a look at some Coleorton records yesterday. I think I may have > found > your William: > > Coleorton Parish Register (checked 1773 - 1776) > 1773 > William son of Joseph & Margaret Stinson bapt Dec 28 > 1774 > Thomas son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Jan 9 > 1776 > John son of Richard & Rebecca Stinson bapt Apr 7 > > Couldn't see any others in the period, but reading the register was > difficult, so can't guarantee I didn't miss some. > > Hugglescote & Coleorton Baptist church was formed in 1798. I checked the > list of members from its formation up to 1828 and could not see a > Stenson/Stinson there at all. An earlier Baptist church in the area was > that at Barton in the Beans, so it's possible that your family were members > there, or as others have mentioned, the one in Melbourne. Although it may > seem strange that they did not transfer to Hugglescote & Coleorton when it > was founded, those early days were sometimes difficult for the Baptist > movement. Eventually, there was a split, with the General Baptists going > one way and the Particular Baptists another. It would not have been unusual > for a family to prefer a church that was not their "local". > > Baptist Sunday School records don't go back far enough for you, I'm afraid. > > Unfortunately, it seems that the de Lisle and Beaumont family records > (manorial court rolls) have largely not survived. I had a look at the > Herrick family manuscripts, but they don't cover the right area. So > probably > nothing more in that direction. > > It really needs someone to spend 3 - 4 hours going through the parish > registers - baptisms, marriages and burials - to find the members of the > various Stinson families in Coleorton. They may even need to ask for the > originals to be produced, where the film is difficult to read. It's a > combination of faded writing, poor handwriting and, sometimes, slightly out > of focus filming. It also probably needs younger eyes than mine ;-). > There are researchers who can be hired by the hour at reasonable rates. I > would suggest not using the Record Office themselves, as their rates are > pretty high, which is reasonable when you're using their expertise, but > this > is a simple task, more suited to an independent researcher. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > >

Yes, this is a possibility. But how to prove or disprove? On 9 August 2013 03:42, Sue Brown <koorick99@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Vern, > You may already have the following but I include it incase not. > There is a possiblity in the Melbourne Baptist Register RG4/507 covering > births 1754-1806, baptisms 1765-1793 and list of members 1770-1789. There > are 2 entries for Stenson, the first in a list of members "Baptised att > Packington July 24 1770 Wm Stenson [crossed through], Colorten Moor. The > second entry is Wm Stenson in 'The number of Members, & their names which > was in the Baptist Church att Melboun July ye 29th 1770'. > As the Baptists practiced adult baptism might this be a possiblity for > William's father? > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sue, Welcome to the list, where we have a number of knowledgeable and helpful members. Checking my old ordnance survey map, the only church in Stapleford is (as I suspected) in the grounds of Stapleford Hall and has been closed some years. It is not an ancient church, looks more 1700s. The next nearest church would be Wyfordby, about a mile distant. Deposited registers should be at the Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland, tel. 0116 2571080, and you should find an email address if you look at their website. The library in Melton Mowbray has a lot of registers on micro fiche for their borough, which should include these two places, so it depends on which is the most convenient for you. If Robert Sr was a tenant farmer, the chances are he married a girl from a nearby village. If he was a farm labourer, and father's occupations were often 'improved' on marriage registers, then he could have come from any of the surrounding villages or even further afield. I live in the area and have come across PAGET (or PADGET) as a local name. Have you looked at the 1841 census to see where this name is located? That would be my first move. Stapleford is still a tiny place and is pronounced locally as St-apple-ford. Hope that helps, Lesley -----Original Message----- From: Susan Howes Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:33 PM To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] PAGET- Stapleford Hello, I am new to the list. I am helping someone research her tree. I have got as far as Robert PAGET, born c. 1812. He was baptised in Stapleford on 17th June 1812. His father was also Robert, a farmer according to Robert Junior's marriage cert. I have had no luck in tracing Robert Snr's marriage to Ann. Or anything else about him. I should be very grateful in anyone can point me in the right direction. Many thanks, Sue

Hi Vern When William died, did he leave a will? I was wondering if he left anything to family members other than wife and children. Also, did he follow a naming pattern for his children - eldest son named after his father, etc? Just some random thoughts..... Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Vern Prescott > Sent: 08 August 2013 15:34 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LEI] Old school records > > Hi Ruth > > I'm looking for information on William Stenson, born about > 1771 in the hopes of identifying his parents. > > Vern > >

I missed the earlier posts - what date are we talking about? Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie > Sent: 08 August 2013 14:18 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LEI] Old school records > > Vern Prescott wrote: > > I have checked whatever is available to me online. But, they would > > not really be of any help because they would only show head > of house, > > and since I don't know my William's father's name .... > > They could lead to your WIlliam's parents though. I've gone > sideways to go back. Other researchers have done the same. > > -- > Connie > http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message >

Vern Prescott wrote: > I have checked whatever is available to me online. But, they would not > really be of any help because they would only show head of house, and since > I don't know my William's father's name .... They could lead to your WIlliam's parents though. I've gone sideways to go back. Other researchers have done the same. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Hello, I am new to the list. I am helping someone research her tree. I have got as far as Robert PAGET, born c. 1812. He was baptised in Stapleford on 17th June 1812. His father was also Robert, a farmer according to Robert Junior's marriage cert. I have had no luck in tracing Robert Snr's  marriage to Ann. Or anything else about him. I should be very grateful in anyone can point me in the right direction. Many thanks, Sue

William left a will giving everything to his children and grandchildren. His wife had died about 15 years earlier. His brother Joseph died about 4 years earlier. If he had other siblings, they were quite likely already gone, since William was 91. Vern On 8 August 2013 10:54, Acorn Cottage <orange.wasps@live.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern > > When William died, did he leave a will? I was wondering if he left anything > to family members other than wife and children. > Also, did he follow a naming pattern for his children - eldest son named > after his father, etc? > > Just some random thoughts..... > >

Hi Ruth I'm looking for information on William Stenson, born about 1771 in the hopes of identifying his parents. Vern On 8 August 2013 09:44, Acorn Cottage <orange.wasps@live.co.uk> wrote: > I missed the earlier posts - what date are we talking about? > > Ruth > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie > > Sent: 08 August 2013 14:18 > > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LEI] Old school records > > > > Vern Prescott wrote: > > > I have checked whatever is available to me online. But, they would > > > not really be of any help because they would only show head > > of house, > > > and since I don't know my William's father's name .... > > > > They could lead to your WIlliam's parents though. I've gone > > sideways to go back. Other researchers have done the same. > > > > -- > > Connie > > http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oh yes, I have been doing that using parish registers, census info, wills, etc. I also use newspapers and google books. I found something on google books once that sated that the authour had heard from Joseph Stenson of Leeds, that it was his uncle William Stenson who instigated the L & S Railway. Since I had already been looking at all other Stensons, I was able to quickly tie Joseph to William and prove that William had a brother Joseph. The same Joseph Stenson of Leeds said that Samuel Smith Harris (mother was Selina Stenson) was a distant relative of William. Vern On 8 August 2013 09:18, Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> wrote: > Vern Prescott wrote: > > I have checked whatever is available to me online. But, they would not > > really be of any help because they would only show head of house, and > since > > I don't know my William's father's name .... > > They could lead to your WIlliam's parents though. I've gone sideways > to go back. Other researchers have done the same. > > -- > Connie > http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mel I have checked whatever is available to me online. But, they would not really be of any help because they would only show head of house, and since I don't know my William's father's name .... I should mention that I have also done a pretty extensive search of the newspapers that are available online. I have found lots about my William and his family, but nothing to lead me back to his parents. Vern

Vern: Don't know whether this will help, but... Have you checked any historical or city directories which might list the business or household members. I don't know specifically what might have been available in that timeframe Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern Prescott Sent: August 7, 2013 6:30 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Old school records Thanks Mike Correct, no luck finding a baptism for either William or his brother Joseph (born 1775). They were Baptists which might explain the lack of baptism records. But, I am not sure that William's family were Baptists or whether he made the change later on. William married Hannah Varnham at St Mary's, Coleorton in 1796. This would have been required by law. But his first two children were baptised at St Mary's. The third was also born at Coleorton, but I can't find her baptism. He then moved to Derbyshire and then Gloucestershire where his other children were born. As for wills, I have several. One is a will of Joseph Stinson (1816) who was a hatmaker. He mentions a number of children, some with names other than Stinson. The first two mentioned are William and Joseph, but there is no indication of their occupations or where they lived, so I can't identify whether they are my people. I do have baptisms for some of the other children who were born after 1775, so my William and and Joseph would fit nicely into the family (assuming the children were mentioned in order of birth). I have been told, but have not been able to verify, that one of William's partners when he was in Gloucestershire was a Stephen Stenson, hatter. This could fit in with hatmaker Joseph. There was a burial of a Stephen Stenson 12 Apr 1835 in Coleorton I wonder if there is a will for him? I have the Coleorton BT's at my local LDS centre. I also have the Leicsview CD. I do wonder whether the St Mary's original Parish registers are available, which might have additional entries or further information. Having probably already confused everyone with my ramblings, I shall stop at this point. Any ideas would be appreciated. Vern On 7 August 2013 17:42, Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern, > > I've never come across school records going back that far. Sometimes > there are Sunday School records that show who the parents of a child > were, but again, those usually only go back to the early 19th century. > Presumably you've had no luck finding a baptism ? What about wills ? > Another possibility is if the family held their property by copyhold, > which would mean that the son would have to go to the manor court to > get the property transferred to him on the death of his parents. He > would not automatically inherit it. I'm not sure whether it came > under the de Lisle family or the Beaumonts. I think it's one or the > other. I plan to take a look at the de Lisle manuscripts at the > Record Office soon, so I'll keep a look out for Stensons/Stinsons. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern > Prescott > Sent: 07 August 2013 18:43 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LEI] Old school records > > I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school > records surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all > that might help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) > born about 1770 in Cole-Orton. > > Vern in lovely SW Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Vern, I've never come across school records going back that far. Sometimes there are Sunday School records that show who the parents of a child were, but again, those usually only go back to the early 19th century. Presumably you've had no luck finding a baptism ? What about wills ? Another possibility is if the family held their property by copyhold, which would mean that the son would have to go to the manor court to get the property transferred to him on the death of his parents. He would not automatically inherit it. I'm not sure whether it came under the de Lisle family or the Beaumonts. I think it's one or the other. I plan to take a look at the de Lisle manuscripts at the Record Office soon, so I'll keep a look out for Stensons/Stinsons. Best wishes, Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern Prescott Sent: 07 August 2013 18:43 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Old school records I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school records surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 in Cole-Orton. Vern in lovely SW Ontario ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Vern Apart from the odd posh school there weren't any formal schools for the hoi polloi as such in that period Especially so in a back water like Coleorton If they were rich enough to have schooling they would either have a governess or tutor or be sent away to school somewhere like Rugby Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/08/2013 18:43, Vern Prescott wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school records > surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might > help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 > in Cole-Orton. > > Vern in lovely SW Ontario