Hi Stan, Having looked at the possible matches in the censuses, I'm interested to know why you eliminated the William H Billson living at 57 Junction Road, St. Margarets, Leicester in 1871. He was a grocer and has the correct middle initial. Although the age is slightly out, perhaps he didn't want to admit to being an adult of 21 in 1875. The authorities would probably be more lenient with a "child". Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary & Stan Rodliffe Sent: 25 August 2013 17:43 To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] William Henry BILLSON (c1856 - ????) I have reason to believe that my husband's grandmother was the illegitimate daughter of then 20 year old William Henry Billson. Her mother Louisa Loasby gave evidence at his trial for attempted suicide before Kettering Magistrates on 11th September 1875. The event and my suspicions are described in full at http://www.thornburypump.co.uk/Ancestry/whbillson.php and the puzzle is not whether he was the father but which of three possible William Henry Bil(l)son was the man concerned. I have traced, and probably eliminated two, but still have a question mark hanging over the third who in 1871 was a grocer's assistant born Leicester, living at 43 Trumpington street, St Mary The Less, Cambridge at the home of Charles Whichello (38) grocer. If any of this strikes a chord with anyone or if someone can offer guidance on tracking the man down I'd be very pleased to hear from them. Best wishes Stan Rodliffe Our resources available on-line: <http://www.thornburypump.co.uk/Ancestry/resources.php> http://www.thornburypump.co.uk/Ancestry/resources.php Kelly's Directories of Norfolk and Cambridgeshire 1900 Return of Owners of Land in Norfolk 1873 Newnes Round the Coast 1895 Black's Guides to Cornwall 1879, Gloucestershire 1875 and South Wales 1883 Norfolk & Northamptonshire photographers details free at <http://www.earlyphotographers.org.uk/> http://www.earlyphotographers.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have reason to believe that my husband's grandmother was the illegitimate daughter of then 20 year old William Henry Billson. Her mother Louisa Loasby gave evidence at his trial for attempted suicide before Kettering Magistrates on 11th September 1875. The event and my suspicions are described in full at http://www.thornburypump.co.uk/Ancestry/whbillson.php and the puzzle is not whether he was the father but which of three possible William Henry Bil(l)son was the man concerned. I have traced, and probably eliminated two, but still have a question mark hanging over the third who in 1871 was a grocer's assistant born Leicester, living at 43 Trumpington street, St Mary The Less, Cambridge at the home of Charles Whichello (38) grocer. If any of this strikes a chord with anyone or if someone can offer guidance on tracking the man down I'd be very pleased to hear from them. Best wishes Stan Rodliffe Our resources available on-line: <http://www.thornburypump.co.uk/Ancestry/resources.php> http://www.thornburypump.co.uk/Ancestry/resources.php Kelly's Directories of Norfolk and Cambridgeshire 1900 Return of Owners of Land in Norfolk 1873 Newnes Round the Coast 1895 Black's Guides to Cornwall 1879, Gloucestershire 1875 and South Wales 1883 Norfolk & Northamptonshire photographers details free at <http://www.earlyphotographers.org.uk/> http://www.earlyphotographers.org.uk/

The CofE requirement came in with Hardwicke's Marriage Act in the 1750s and lasted until the advent of Civil Marriages in 1837. There were exceptions for Quakers and Jews whose records and requirements were up to scratch and didn't need further regulation. Hardwicke's Marriage Act also created the spur for couples to elope to Scotland and marry under Scottish Law at places just over the border such as Gretna Green. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Connie To: MAVIS JOHNSON ; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] [NTT] Who do you think you are? On 22/08/2013 18:24, MAVIS JOHNSON wrote: > I cannot see a marriage in the Notts FHS Index but as most of these Laceworkers were Non Conformists it may be that they married in a Chapel, or even in another County. There was a period when a non conformist marriage had to take place in the CoE for it to be recognised and legal. I'm not sure when that changed. The marriage you are interested should be in the GRO index. All marriages after the start of civil registration irrespective of what religion or where they took place are supposed to be in the index. -- Connie

On 24/08/2013 13:51, David Armstrong wrote: > The CofE requirement came in with Hardwicke's Marriage Act in the 1750s and > lasted until the advent of Civil Marriages in 1837. There were exceptions > for Quakers and Jews whose records and requirements were up to scratch and > didn't need further regulation. > > Hardwicke's Marriage Act also created the spur for couples to elope to > Scotland and marry under Scottish Law at places just over the border such as > Gretna Green. Hallo Thank you. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

On 22/08/2013 18:24, MAVIS JOHNSON wrote: > I cannot see a marriage in the Notts FHS Index but as most of these Laceworkers were Non Conformists it may be that they married in a Chapel, or even in another County. There was a period when a non conformist marriage had to take place in the CoE for it to be recognised and legal. I'm not sure when that changed. The marriage you are interested should be in the GRO index. All marriages after the start of civil registration irrespective of what religion or where they took place are supposed to be in the index. I'm not subscribed to the Notts list so I have removed that address. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Hi Mavis Your links between Lineker, Cutts and Burton greatly interested me. My wife's maternal line is Burton and I have traced it back to the late 1700's primarily in the Basford area with the majority of hatches, matches and despatches taking place at St Leos. There are a few Marys in the tree (it would be surprising if this were not the case) but none that would match the one you describe. However I suspect that Burton was a large family in the area and I still have many branches / twigs to investigate. One common name in this Burton tree is Nimrod - if you have researched the Burtons at all and have a Nimrod I would love to hear from you. Regards Bob -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MAVIS JOHNSON Sent: 22 August 2013 18:25 To: Brian Binns Cc: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com; nottsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] Who do you think you are? Hello Brian I was particularly interested in this episode as I have a Lineker in one of the Cutts family trees.    I caught a quick sight of the Lineker side of the tree and that one was (?) an Engine Smith at Basford and I think it was to a ...Morris?  I cannot see a marriage in the Notts FHS Index but as most of these Laceworkers were Non Conformists it may be that they married in a Chapel, or even in another County. I must watch again on I-Player to see what I can catch second time around..Perhaps I might be able to use the Pause Button to good effect. 1860, 14 Oct.     Mary Cutts widow remarried to Wm.Lineker at St.Leos      (would appreciate specific details from parish register if anyone has them please) Mary was nee Burton, then Cutts,   These families were involved in Lace trade in Basford - Bleachers and trimmers. 1861    Wm. and Mary are living At Binch's Yard, Church St., Basford close to the Marriotts and Burton families who are both Lace Bleachers William is now a Road Labourer at 62, and Mary, 60,  has no occupation. A geographical hint is that Linacre (and Reservoir is the next village to Cutthorpe (meaning 'outlying farm of the Cutts') not far from Chesterfield, Derbyshire.  These families may have moved in similar directions over the centuries as they moved from the country to the towns during the Industrial Revolution to make their living. The hosiery and stocking making trades, forerunners of  lace machine made lace, were distributed in a wide arc around Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire (read Sheila Mason's excellent history "Nottinghsm Lace 1760s-1950s).   I agree that the newspaper sites are a great mine of information.   I was looking for a death of one of the Cutts family for some fifteen years or more until I found a copy of a newspaper announcing his death, but not where, why, nor where he was buried...somewhere along the Canal routes from Cromford to Nottinghamshire and Gainsborough.. I look forward to hearing further details from you after your talk... Mavis, in Somerset. >________________________________ > From: Brian Binns <bnbinns@gmail.com> >To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com; nottsgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013, 10:18 >Subject: [NTT] Who do you think you are? > > >I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our >overseas friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring >Leicester's Gary Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first >posted last Monday, I sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts list >because I had come across the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite >often. And there it was on Gary's tree - the Lineker side had indeed >moved from Nottingham - Basford to be accurate - to Leicester. The shot >of that side of his printed tree was only on the screen for a few >moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate on Gary' s >grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted what a >wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites >are for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my knowledge of my ancestors. > > > >Brian Binns > > > >Notts Surname List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian Are you able to publish details of the what, where and whens of your talk please? I live in the Nottingham area and assuming that this is where it will take place I would be interested in attending having found many of your postings of great interest. I also seem to recall article(s) in the Basford Bystander - am I correct?. Many Thanks Bob -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Binns Sent: 22 August 2013 11:17 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com; nottsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] [LEI] Who do you think you are? Mind you last night's WDYTYA (I got it wrong in my initial post!!) did contain a glaring error. Gary was perusing an 1841 entry, oddly enough on the set of Match of the Day, when he commented that the male descendant shown as aged 50 was much older that his wife, shown as 40. There was no "expert" around to correct him. I found some very interesting newspaper stories about my grandfather which I have put together into a talk that I am premiering in November! In other words, I haven't done the talk yet - and it's my first time doing one. I also unearthed a small piece of social history which I will share with this list at some time, but not before the talks so as not to spoil it for those who are attending. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 22 August 2013 10:55 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com; nottsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] [NTT] Who do you think you are? From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> > I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our > overseas friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring > Leicester's Gary Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first > posted last Monday, I sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts > list because I had come across the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite > often. And there it was on Gary's tree - the Lineker side had indeed > moved from Nottingham - Basford to be accurate - to Leicester. The > shot of that side of his printed tree was only on the screen for a few > moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate on Gary' s > grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted what a > wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites > are for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my > knowledge of my ancestors. > > > > Brian Binns< I agree with Brian, particularly his comment about what a marvellous source of online information the newspaper websites are. The British Newspaper Archive is utterly brilliant and worth every penny of the year's subscription! One of my lectures is about researching from newspapers and I always make the point that you should never assume that your ancestors had to be of the "great and the good" to appear in a newspaper. I point out in my talk that if they did anything at all of interest in their community they were almost bound to have what Andy Warhol called their "15 minutes of fame" and have it reported in print, whether it was in the BMD announcements - "hatched, matched and despatched" as we in the newspaper business called it - or if your ancestor belonged to a club, institution or sports club, was in the army or navy, committed a crime, got murdered or killed in some messy way, belonged to a local council, trade union or some other body, and a myriad other things, they are almost bound to have appeared in a newspaper. In my own researches I came across a report of a great-great-uncle who won second prize in a comic vocal contest in Bradford in the 1870s singing a song about a milkmen and appearing in costume - not exactly world-shattering news but fascinating to me! I also found a paragraph about a great-great-grandfather, a police officer in Scarborough who kept hens in his spare time and one of them had laid a monster egg!!! The odd thing was that while he was in Scarborough, the report was in a newspaper in Leicester, 120 miles away. I have often noticed this with Victorian newspapers, i.e. that reports of an incident in one place often figured in papers at the other end of the country and, though I spent over 40 years in the newspaper business myself, I have never quite fathomed out how this happened in the days before wireless telegraph and the internet! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Brian I was particularly interested in this episode as I have a Lineker in one of the Cutts family trees.    I caught a quick sight of the Lineker side of the tree and that one was (?) an Engine Smith at Basford and I think it was to a ...Morris?  I cannot see a marriage in the Notts FHS Index but as most of these Laceworkers were Non Conformists it may be that they married in a Chapel, or even in another County. I must watch again on I-Player to see what I can catch second time around..Perhaps I might be able to use the Pause Button to good effect. 1860, 14 Oct.     Mary Cutts widow remarried to Wm.Lineker at St.Leos      (would appreciate specific details from parish register if anyone has them please) Mary was nee Burton, then Cutts,   These families were involved in Lace trade in Basford - Bleachers and trimmers. 1861    Wm. and Mary are living At Binch's Yard, Church St., Basford close to the Marriotts and Burton families who are both Lace Bleachers William is now a Road Labourer at 62, and Mary, 60,  has no occupation. A geographical hint is that Linacre (and Reservoir is the next village to Cutthorpe (meaning 'outlying farm of the Cutts') not far from Chesterfield, Derbyshire.  These families may have moved in similar directions over the centuries as they moved from the country to the towns during the Industrial Revolution to make their living. The hosiery and stocking making trades, forerunners of  lace machine made lace, were distributed in a wide arc around Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire (read Sheila Mason's excellent history "Nottinghsm Lace 1760s-1950s).   I agree that the newspaper sites are a great mine of information.   I was looking for a death of one of the Cutts family for some fifteen years or more until I found a copy of a newspaper announcing his death, but not where, why, nor where he was buried...somewhere along the Canal routes from Cromford to Nottinghamshire and Gainsborough.. I look forward to hearing further details from you after your talk... Mavis, in Somerset. >________________________________ > From: Brian Binns <bnbinns@gmail.com> >To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com; nottsgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013, 10:18 >Subject: [NTT] Who do you think you are? > > >I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our overseas >friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring Leicester's Gary >Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first posted last Monday, I >sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts list because I had come across >the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite often. And there it was on Gary's >tree - the Lineker side had indeed moved from Nottingham - Basford to be >accurate - to Leicester. The shot of that side of his printed tree was only >on the screen for a few moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate on >Gary' s grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted what >a wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites are >for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my knowledge of my >ancestors. > > > >Brian Binns > > > >Notts Surname List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

hubby picked up on that and he isn't even from there lol but it was wonderful to see the inside of the church I was confirmed at Lin http://familyrootsandbranches.tribalpages.com/ On 22 August 2013 12:53, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > I was thinking much the same Ian > > It was a heck of a size for a village when I went to school there <g> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 22/08/2013 12:37, I PHILLPOTT wrote: > > Also since when has Hinckley been a village as stated in the programme? > > As a life-long resident I always thought it was a ancient market town! > > Ian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> > I was thinking much the same Ian > > It was a heck of a size for a village when I went to school there <g> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 22/08/2013 12:37, I PHILLPOTT wrote: > > Also since when has Hinckley been a village as stated in the programme? > > As a life-long resident I always thought it was a ancient market town! > > Ian> According to Wikipedia, it was a "large village" at the time of the Domesday Book (1086) and grew over the next 200 years into a market town and a first market was recorded there in 1311. However, we must remember that WDYTYA? is made in London and to the team that make the programme anything outside the M25 is probably a village! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

I was thinking much the same Ian It was a heck of a size for a village when I went to school there <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/08/2013 12:37, I PHILLPOTT wrote: > Also since when has Hinckley been a village as stated in the programme? > As a life-long resident I always thought it was a ancient market town! > Ian

Also since when has Hinckley been a village as stated in the programme? As a life-long resident I always thought it was a ancient market town! Ian Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

Mind you last night's WDYTYA (I got it wrong in my initial post!!) did contain a glaring error. Gary was perusing an 1841 entry, oddly enough on the set of Match of the Day, when he commented that the male descendant shown as aged 50 was much older that his wife, shown as 40. There was no "expert" around to correct him. I found some very interesting newspaper stories about my grandfather which I have put together into a talk that I am premiering in November! In other words, I haven't done the talk yet - and it's my first time doing one. I also unearthed a small piece of social history which I will share with this list at some time, but not before the talks so as not to spoil it for those who are attending. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 22 August 2013 10:55 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com; nottsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] [NTT] Who do you think you are? From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> > I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our > overseas friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring > Leicester's Gary Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first > posted last Monday, I sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts > list because I had come across the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite > often. And there it was on Gary's tree - the Lineker side had indeed > moved from Nottingham - Basford to be accurate - to Leicester. The > shot of that side of his printed tree was only on the screen for a few > moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate on Gary' s > grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted what a > wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites > are for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my knowledge of my ancestors. > > > > Brian Binns< I agree with Brian, particularly his comment about what a marvellous source of online information the newspaper websites are. The British Newspaper Archive is utterly brilliant and worth every penny of the year's subscription! One of my lectures is about researching from newspapers and I always make the point that you should never assume that your ancestors had to be of the "great and the good" to appear in a newspaper. I point out in my talk that if they did anything at all of interest in their community they were almost bound to have what Andy Warhol called their "15 minutes of fame" and have it reported in print, whether it was in the BMD announcements - "hatched, matched and despatched" as we in the newspaper business called it - or if your ancestor belonged to a club, institution or sports club, was in the army or navy, committed a crime, got murdered or killed in some messy way, belonged to a local council, trade union or some other body, and a myriad other things, they are almost bound to have appeared in a newspaper. In my own researches I came across a report of a great-great-uncle who won second prize in a comic vocal contest in Bradford in the 1870s singing a song about a milkmen and appearing in costume - not exactly world-shattering news but fascinating to me! I also found a paragraph about a great-great-grandfather, a police officer in Scarborough who kept hens in his spare time and one of them had laid a monster egg!!! The odd thing was that while he was in Scarborough, the report was in a newspaper in Leicester, 120 miles away. I have often noticed this with Victorian newspapers, i.e. that reports of an incident in one place often figured in papers at the other end of the country and, though I spent over 40 years in the newspaper business myself, I have never quite fathomed out how this happened in the days before wireless telegraph and the internet! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good programme but could have provided reasons for the extreme poverty endured by framework knitters. Just a brief outline might have been useful to viewers unacquainted with the history of local textile manufacturing. There's a useful account of working conditions for fwks in the region on one of the Barrow on Soar webpages : http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/barrowuponsoar/socialconsequences.html Jill

Good programme but could have provided reasons for the extreme poverty endured by framework knitters. Just a brief outline might have been useful to viewers unacquainted with the history of local textile manufacturing. There's a useful account of working conditions for fwks in the region on one of the Barrow on Soar webpages : http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/barrowuponsoar/socialconsequences.html Jill

From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> > I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our overseas > friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring Leicester's Gary > Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first posted last Monday, I > sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts list because I had come across > the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite often. And there it was on Gary's > tree - the Lineker side had indeed moved from Nottingham - Basford to be > accurate - to Leicester. The shot of that side of his printed tree was only > on the screen for a few moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate on > Gary' s grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted what > a wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites are > for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my knowledge of my > ancestors. > > > > Brian Binns< I agree with Brian, particularly his comment about what a marvellous source of online information the newspaper websites are. The British Newspaper Archive is utterly brilliant and worth every penny of the year's subscription! One of my lectures is about researching from newspapers and I always make the point that you should never assume that your ancestors had to be of the "great and the good" to appear in a newspaper. I point out in my talk that if they did anything at all of interest in their community they were almost bound to have what Andy Warhol called their "15 minutes of fame" and have it reported in print, whether it was in the BMD announcements - "hatched, matched and despatched" as we in the newspaper business called it - or if your ancestor belonged to a club, institution or sports club, was in the army or navy, committed a crime, got murdered or killed in some messy way, belonged to a local council, trade union or some other body, and a myriad other things, they are almost bound to have appeared in a newspaper. In my own researches I came across a report of a great-great-uncle who won second prize in a comic vocal contest in Bradford in the 1870s singing a song about a milkmen and appearing in costume - not exactly world-shattering news but fascinating to me! I also found a paragraph about a great-great-grandfather, a police officer in Scarborough who kept hens in his spare time and one of them had laid a monster egg!!! The odd thing was that while he was in Scarborough, the report was in a newspaper in Leicester, 120 miles away. I have often noticed this with Victorian newspapers, i.e. that reports of an incident in one place often figured in papers at the other end of the country and, though I spent over 40 years in the newspaper business myself, I have never quite fathomed out how this happened in the days before wireless telegraph and the internet! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hear Hear Most interesting programme - one of the better ones in recent years. J On 22 August 2013 10:25, <DayMargaretstan@aol.com> wrote: > I couldn't agree more with Brian . > > last nights WHYTYO, was one of the best we had seen. > REAL research > > Margaret NOTTS UK > > > In a message dated 22/08/2013 10:19:52 GMT Daylight Time, > bnbinns@gmail.com > writes: > > I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our > overseas > friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring Leicester's Gary > Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first posted last Monday, I > sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts list because I had come > across > the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite often. And there it was on Gary's > tree - the Lineker side had indeed moved from Nottingham - Basford to be > accurate - to Leicester. The shot of that side of his printed tree was > only > on the screen for a few moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate > on > Gary' s grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted > what > a wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites > are > for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my knowledge of > my > ancestors. > > > > Brian Binns > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our overseas friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring Leicester's Gary Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first posted last Monday, I sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts list because I had come across the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite often. And there it was on Gary's tree - the Lineker side had indeed moved from Nottingham - Basford to be accurate - to Leicester. The shot of that side of his printed tree was only on the screen for a few moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate on Gary' s grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted what a wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites are for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my knowledge of my ancestors. Brian Binns

I couldn't agree more with Brian . last nights WHYTYO, was one of the best we had seen. REAL research Margaret NOTTS UK In a message dated 22/08/2013 10:19:52 GMT Daylight Time, bnbinns@gmail.com writes: I won't spoil it for those who have yet to view it - especially our overseas friends - but last night's episode of WDYTYO featuring Leicester's Gary Lineker was very interesting. As I said when I first posted last Monday, I sent it to both the Leics list and the Notts list because I had come across the surname Lineker in Nottingham quite often. And there it was on Gary's tree - the Lineker side had indeed moved from Nottingham - Basford to be accurate - to Leicester. The shot of that side of his printed tree was only on the screen for a few moments as the programme proceeded to concentrate on Gary' s grandmother's side of the family. The research also highlighted what a wonderful source of information the online searchable Newspaper sites are for fleshing out your tree. I know they've added a lot ot my knowledge of my ancestors. Brian Binns Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 21/08/2013 23:07, Derek (A) wrote: > It was interesting to see Gary Lineker looking through Leicester Prison > records on tonight's 'Who Do You Think You Are'. > > Does anyone know if these records are available for general research ? Google is your friend. Some starting places http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/community/museums/record_office.htm http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=5969&p=localities.britisles.england.lei.general http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=572496.0 -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/