On 25/03/2014 22:26, Nivard Ovington wrote: > I was under the impression the petition was for allowing access to the > original birth, marriage & death registers, I did not see mention of the > later GRO indexes Your impression is right. The campaign is for the originals but I strongly suspect that even if access is allowed there will be cut offs. It means that we'd still have to buy some full price certificates. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

I can only repeat, I have yet to see one petition that affected policy Some claim they have but on inspection their claims are found very much wanting Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/03/2014 21:18, Connie wrote: > On 25/03/2014 20:38, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> I wouldn't be to sure Kath >> >> (I shudder at the alternatives but thats another story) >> >> As to the online petition, I have yet to see *any* petition bring forth >> results, so although I wish the petition well I suspect it is doomed to >> failure > > Two have and both under Gordon Brown. >

Hi Guy As you will have seen I have signed it but have no faith whatsoever in it or any other petition I looked at the stats on petitions a short while back and confess I did not come up with your results, in fact I did not find one petition that affected policy As I said I wish it well but will be highly surprised if it hits its target Its likelihood of success will be known in days Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I though that Nivard, but on further investigation the new petition site > is being taken more seriously with 20 out of 21 petitions being debated > in the house in I think it was 2012 but it might have been 2011. > Cheers > Guy

No Rob, if it achieves 100,000 signatures it is considered for discussion by a back bench committee (of nobodys) But that is immaterial as its unlikely to get anywhere near 100,000 signatures I was under the impression the petition was for allowing access to the original birth, marriage & death registers, I did not see mention of the later GRO indexes Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/03/2014 21:56, Robert Burns wrote: > If it gets 100k it has to be discussed in Commitee and whilst I agree > every little helps especially as the passport service will not sell new > indexes to anyone and I now have to go to Manchester if I want to see > any post 2006 entries > > Rob

Hi Rob I have done However, they appear to have changed the way these petitions are signed, it now requires a full address which I was **very** reluctant to give, however I have signed it I do not expect it to get anywhere and even if it receives the requisite 100,000 signatures, that only means they may consider it for discussion by a committee As I said I have yet to see one petition which had any effect on policy, I do not expect any better in this case Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/03/2014 20:41, Robert Burns wrote: > But if you dont try you dont get anywhere so will you sign it Nivard >

On 25/03/2014 20:38, Nivard Ovington wrote: > I wouldn't be to sure Kath > > (I shudder at the alternatives but thats another story) > > As to the online petition, I have yet to see *any* petition bring forth > results, so although I wish the petition well I suspect it is doomed to > failure Two have and both under Gordon Brown. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Totally agree Rob, people posting to Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter would help too, there are links on the petition page. It's all about getting people talking and the more voices out there the better chance there is of being heard. Just emailed my MP, he's pretty good and sometimes turns up at local community meetings so I'll bend his ear then if I can. Just in case anyone else considering following suit you can find contact details really easily here http://findyourmp.parliament.uk/ the link is on the http://anguline.co.uk/ohrn1.html page too. Cheers Kath From: Robert Burns [mailto:famh1story@aol.com] Sent: 25 March 2014 19:44 To: kath.heywood@ntlworld.com; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers Kath, I did that weeks ago and before I spoke to Guy about this. Hopefully if more could do that we might get somewhere Rob -----Original Message----- From: Kath <kath.heywood@ntlworld.com> To: leicestershire-plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 7:41 pm Subject: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers Ah but it is an election year in 2015, our dearly beloved Prime Minister may be no more. Might be worth a chat with our various MPs if the opportunity arises though and I've shared it to Google Plus Family History Community too. Kath -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com?> ] On Behalf Of Connie Sent: 25 March 2014 12:00 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers On 25/03/2014 11:37, Guy Etchells wrote: > There is now a petition online at > http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Sadly our dearly beloved Prime Minister has said he won't take any notice of any petitions, even if they do reach or exceed the 100,000 signatures required for consideration of parliamentary time. It has given me an idea though. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7243 - Release Date: 03/25/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7246 - Release Date: 03/25/14

On 25/03/2014 20:38, Nivard Ovington wrote: > I wouldn't be to sure Kath > > (I shudder at the alternatives but thats another story) > > As to the online petition, I have yet to see *any* petition bring forth > results, so although I wish the petition well I suspect it is doomed to > failure > > Petitions are a bit more of Blairs spin > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > I though that Nivard, but on further investigation the new petition site is being taken more seriously with 20 out of 21 petitions being debated in the house in I think it was 2012 but it might have been 2011. Cheers Guy

I wouldn't be to sure Kath (I shudder at the alternatives but thats another story) As to the online petition, I have yet to see *any* petition bring forth results, so although I wish the petition well I suspect it is doomed to failure Petitions are a bit more of Blairs spin Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/03/2014 19:41, Kath wrote: > Ah but it is an election year in 2015, our dearly beloved Prime Minister may > be no more. Might be worth a chat with our various MPs if the opportunity > arises though and I've shared it to Google Plus Family History Community > too. > Kath

Ah but it is an election year in 2015, our dearly beloved Prime Minister may be no more. Might be worth a chat with our various MPs if the opportunity arises though and I've shared it to Google Plus Family History Community too. Kath -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie Sent: 25 March 2014 12:00 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers On 25/03/2014 11:37, Guy Etchells wrote: > There is now a petition online at > http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Sadly our dearly beloved Prime Minister has said he won't take any notice of any petitions, even if they do reach or exceed the 100,000 signatures required for consideration of parliamentary time. It has given me an idea though. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7243 - Release Date: 03/25/14

FYI: Nobody has said anything about whether non-citizens (ie non-TAXpayers) could sign the petition. I didn't expect to be able to (I'm in the U.S.) but I gave it a shot. It asked me if I lived in the U.K. & I clicked No and couldn't sign it. Too bad. I've spent quite a bit of money with the GRO, but they would actually get more money from me if they offered a better deal. However, if the powers that be in the UK don't pay attention to their own taxpayers, they certainly won't care about the descendants of emigrants. Eileen Phelps (Dad born in Nottingham)

Worked fine here and I am in Crete where it is a public holiday and all the teens are playing their online games !! Maurice On 25/03/2014 16:04, Guy Etchells wrote: > On 25/03/2014 13:57, elhow@tiscali.co.uk wrote: >> You sent me this email 2 hrs after it said it closed!Liza >> >> >> >> >> > No it is not closed until next year it only opened today at 09.15. > > http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 > > > Cheers > Guy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I still signed it anywayLiz ----Original Message---- From: bob.mawby@ntlworld.com Date: 25/03/2014 14:08 To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Subj: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers It closes in 2015, 12 months from now. I signed it today, and so have several others. Bob Mawby -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elhow@tiscali.co.uk Sent: 25 March 2014 13:57 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers You sent me this email 2 hrs after it said it closed!Liza ----Original Message---- From: guy.etchells@virgin.net Date: 25/03/2014 11:37 To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Subj: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers There is now a petition online at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Please sign this petition and share the url with your friends and contacts Apathy will destroy any chance of success. These registers are your heritage. They are archived for your information Please help to make it Easier and Cheaper to access them For more information about the campaign see http://anguline.co.uk/ohrn.html Cheers Guy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It closes in 2015, 12 months from now. I signed it today, and so have several others. Bob Mawby -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elhow@tiscali.co.uk Sent: 25 March 2014 13:57 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers You sent me this email 2 hrs after it said it closed!Liza ----Original Message---- From: guy.etchells@virgin.net Date: 25/03/2014 11:37 To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Subj: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers There is now a petition online at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Please sign this petition and share the url with your friends and contacts Apathy will destroy any chance of success. These registers are your heritage. They are archived for your information Please help to make it Easier and Cheaper to access them For more information about the campaign see http://anguline.co.uk/ohrn.html Cheers Guy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Check again - the closing date is in 2015!! > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of elhow@tiscali.co.uk > Sent: 25 March 2014 13:57 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers > > You sent me this email 2 hrs after it said it closed!Liza > > >

On 25/03/2014 13:57, elhow@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > You sent me this email 2 hrs after it said it closed!Liza > > > > > No it is not closed until next year it only opened today at 09.15. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Cheers Guy

You sent me this email 2 hrs after it said it closed!Liza ----Original Message---- From: guy.etchells@virgin.net Date: 25/03/2014 11:37 To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Subj: [LEI] Campaign to Open Historic Registers There is now a petition online at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Please sign this petition and share the url with your friends and contacts Apathy will destroy any chance of success. These registers are your heritage. They are archived for your information Please help to make it Easier and Cheaper to access them For more information about the campaign see http://anguline.co.uk/ohrn.html Cheers Guy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 25/03/2014 11:37, Guy Etchells wrote: > There is now a petition online at > http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Sadly our dearly beloved Prime Minister has said he won't take any notice of any petitions, even if they do reach or exceed the 100,000 signatures required for consideration of parliamentary time. It has given me an idea though. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

There is now a petition online at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Please sign this petition and share the url with your friends and contacts Apathy will destroy any chance of success. These registers are your heritage. They are archived for your information Please help to make it Easier and Cheaper to access them For more information about the campaign see http://anguline.co.uk/ohrn.html Cheers Guy

And 1911 1911 England Census about Arthur Coulson Name: Arthur Coulson Age in 1911: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1901 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Leicester, Whetstone, England Civil Parish: Whetstone County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: King Street Whetstone Nr Leicester Occupation: School Registration district: Blaby Registration District Number: 401 Sub-registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 18988 Household Members: Name Age John Fred Coulson 31 Kate Coulson 31 Arthur Coulson 10 George Coulson 7 Herbert Coulson 5 Kathleen Coulson 8/12 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 18988. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/03/2014 19:10, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Terry > > > 1901 England Census about Arthur H Coulson > Name: Arthur H Coulson > Age: 2 Months > Estimated birth year: abt 1901 > Relation to Head: Son > Gender: Male > Father: John F Coulson > Mother: Kate E Coulson > Birth Place: Whetstone, Leicestershire, England > Civil Parish: Whetstone > Ecclesiastical parish: Whetstone St Peter > Town: Whetstone