hi list, re-posting my interest. terry. any info on these names lei +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARNETT - ibstock all dates BENNETT - wigston all dates BEESON - ibstock all dates COULSON - whetstone all dates GILLIVER -enderby all dates HOLLAND - ibstock all dates SMART - wigston all dates. ---------------------------------- BEESON duffield dby all dates. ---------------------------------- passom attleborough nuneaton wks ARNETT " " " " " around 1900 ish. --------------------------------- any information on above names however small greatfully recived ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Dear Sue, Many thanks! Edward was an agricultural labourer in Countesthorpe, and continued to be one when he moved to Willenhall, although the sons that moved with him, or who were born after the move to Willenhall, did all worked in the locksmith trade. Edward is cited as a farmer in the marriage of one of his sons, Thomas (who became the Coroner of Canterbury under the name of JOHNSON), but I think that was a bit of poetic license! What intrigues me most, however, is why they should change their name to JOHNSON. The mystery continues! Best wishes, Judy (nee SOARS) Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:08:45 EDT From: SJEAST@aol.com Subject: [LEI] re Soars at Willenhall To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c57.1984f597.3439454d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Judy My husband informs me that Willenhall, Staffs. was developing as a world famous centre of the production of locks and keys at the time you mention, 1855-1860. This was brought about by a growth in banks and increase in the population. Yale locks began there for example. I don't know what occupations your family record but the answer may be found in the work they did. Even if they did not directly work at the lock and key factories, they may have had skills which supported the expansion of industrial growth there. It may be worth investigating. Best wishes Sue

Joseph Dolman, have no wife or birth, the only thing I have is he was a stone mason. Son: James born 1824 married Matilda Hammond, in dist. of Loughbrough, counties of Leicster and Nottingham, Feb. 19, 1851. He was wrap hand living on Ashby Road Loughborogh. May have had a sister Elizabeth born 1831, that married George Allenborough.1851 census James and Matilda both born in Loughbro, Leichestershire This is from the 1851 UK census. On Matilda's father William all I have is he at was a butcher and deceased,m have no wife or birth for him. Matilda was living on Mill St. Loughborough. Information on marrage I received from a nice gentleman in Wales. Looking for any fam of any of these people, Joseph and William were my 4th grt. grandparents Nina

Richard ROYCE was Christened 3 Oct 1820 to Francis and Mary in Gunby by Sewstern. Is anyone able to help with Francis and Mary's marriage please? Thanks. Mike

Here's an extremely long longshot. My grandfather Ted Wadsley ran the Harborough Hotel at Melton Mowbray from about 1908-1912. He left his wife and went to Canada with Dulcie, a barmaid from the hotel. Their outward passage lists them as Mr & Mrs Wadsley. On the other side Dulcie writes her correct name but the surname is unreadable. Dulcie was born c1890. They had a daughter Joan b1913 (thus my mother's sister and my aunt). Would be nice to know what became of her. Does anyone have this Dulcie in their family ?? Regards Francis Payne Auckland, New Zealand

Mike, Here's a possibility... Francis ROYCE = Mary ALMOND 1818 Buckminster [source: Leicestershire Marriage Index) Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: [LEI] Francis ROYCE Marriage c 1820 > Richard ROYCE was Christened 3 Oct 1820 to Francis and Mary in Gunby by > Sewstern. > > Is anyone able to help with Francis and Mary's marriage please? > > Thanks. > > Mike

Any family of Joseph Dolman, had a son James that married Matilda Hammond , and came to USA in 1853 and any family of William Hammond father of Matilda. Would like to know who the mothers were.Joseph and William are my 4th grt grandparents. I think all came from Leichestershire England.

Dear List, At the risk of overkill (2 messages in one day) I would like to know if anyone is researching the family of John SOARS and Hannah HARRIMAN, of Woodhouse. John and Hannah married in 1799 in Woodhouse, and to my knowledge had at least two children Emily (born 1813) and Mary (born 1816). My 4xgreat grandfather, Edward SOARS, was born in Woodhouse about 1811. However, to date I have been unable to find his parents. Given the birthdates of Emily and Mary, I am wondering if there is any connection between Edward and them i.e. is he a brother and therefore a son of John and Hannah. Certainly the names John, Mary and Hannah appear in Edward's own family from his marriage to Mary CAWREY, in 1836. If anyone is researching SOARS of Woodhouse, and can help me solve this mystery I would be very grateful! Best wishes, Judy Evans (nee SOARS)

Dear List, I have sent versions of this story before, hoping for inspiration from some kind soul. In the hopes that new listers might be able to advise, here it is again! My SOARS family are from Leicestershire. My 4 x great grandfather, Edward SOARS, born in Woodhouse Eaves in approximately 1811, and his wife Mary CAWREY, born in Woodhouse in 1816, are to be found in Countesthorpe, Leicestershire in the 1841 and 1851 censuses with their large family. Countesthorpe is where I was born and brought up, and I am descended from Edward and Mary's son, John Cawrey SOARS, born 1837. Edward, Mary and some of their children re-located to Willenhall, in Staffordshire, sometime between 1855 and 1861. I base this on the fact that several children are christened, en masse, in Countesthorpe in 1855, but by the time of the 1861 census Edward, Mary and some of the children are in Willenhall, under the surname of JOHNSON! I can confirm it is indeed them as I have located them in subsequent censuses, and they have variously used the surname JOHNSON, SOARS-JOHNSON and SOARS JOHNSON (i.e. no hyphen) as well as SOARS. Edward died in 1890 and is registered under the name Edward SOARS. How I actually found them makes a great story. Just picture the 'eureka' moment at the Family History Centre in London, having scanned yards of microfilm on a hunch that they were there because of a SOARS visitor to my Countesthorpe family in the 1901 census who was from Willenhall! I am fascinated to understand why they did this, but to date have been unable to find any information. Can anyone suggest where I might look? Hopeful that someone can help, Judy Evans (nee SOARS).

Hi Judy My husband informs me that Willenhall, Staffs. was developing as a world famous centre of the production of locks and keys at the time you mention, 1855-1860. This was brought about by a growth in banks and increase in the population. Yale locks began there for example. I don't know what occupations your family record but the answer may be found in the work they did. Even if they did not directly work at the lock and key factories, they may have had skills which supported the expansion of industrial growth there. It may be worth investigating. Best wishes Sue

Francis Payne wrote: > Here's an extremely long longshot. > > My grandfather Ted Wadsley ran the Harborough Hotel at Melton Mowbray from > about 1908-1912. He left his wife and went to Canada with Dulcie, a barmaid > from the hotel. > > Their outward passage lists them as Mr & Mrs Wadsley. On the other side > Dulcie writes her correct name but the surname is unreadable. > > Dulcie was born c1890. They had a daughter Joan b1913 (thus my mother's > sister and my aunt). Would be nice to know what became of her. If Joan is your mother's full sister, then you surely already have Dulcie's surname. If they are half sisters, have you checked with FreeBMD for all Dulcies born around 1890? What about the 1891 and 1901 censuses? Have you tried for Joan's birth certificate?

Hi Anne Oh PLEASE don't <g> All roll calls are a waste of time, about as much use as a "Test" message :-) Why not simply post an enquiry instead ? As there are many people on the list who know Leicestershire well, why not a question about the homes, farms or places of work in and around Leicestershire If not that then perhaps the brickwall you have If you have a great grandpa you want to know more about, why not post that question ? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Maybe not a Roll Call? > > But we could do a "Gt Grandpa Call" - that would cut it down a bit?? > > > > Anne Paling > SHEFFIELD, U.K.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Rowe" <pekali@xtra.co.nz> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: [LEI] Quietness > Is it permissible to do a roll call on this list, I know some don't > allow them? Roll calls are the biggest waste of bandwidth ever. If you want a roll call type of thing then sites like GenesReunited are a bettter option. Far better to place messages on this list that include all the details you currently know about the person you would like to know MORE about. There are many with resources just waiting for the chance to assist others to break through a research impasse or two. Keith Wellington, NZ

Great site Mark thanks for sharing it with us. Roz Bailey Researching in Leicester/Leicestershire CROWDELL/COWDELL BROWN BRAY and HINCKS - Sapcote ----- Original Message ----- From: <MAshwell@aol.com> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: [LEI] Leicester Historical Maps >I am sure many of you will already know of this Website - but I only just > found it the other day (and still trying to get use to it!) and thought it > might > be of use to those who haven't seen it.. > > Go to this website; _http://citystreatz.leicester.gov.uk_ > (http://citystreatz.leicester.gov.uk) and Click on the "CityStreAtZ" > logo on the left > > You can navigate the map by clicking on the red buttons +, -, etc, at the > top then clicking on the map. > > If you click on the "Maps-layers" tab (above the search box), You can > choose > from several layers - including one called "Leicester base Map" which > will > show you the street today. But the really interesting one is called > "Historic > Maps". You can select from a number of maps and when you click "Refresh" > it > will layer them - one on top of another. agian - use the red buttons to > zoom > in/ out and move around. > > It seems quite complicated though, - maybe when one of you "experts" > have > mastered it you can post some better instructions to the list. > > > Regards, > > Mark > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I am looking for help on my Step Grandma . She is Ada Burgesss born 1875 in Enderby Leicester, daughter of James and Emma nee Gamble Burgess. Wondering if Parents dead as living with Thomas and Mary Colledge of Marsdens Lane Aylestone Leicester, she was 6 and a Neice 1881 census. Found on a 1901 search still living in Leicester but dont know who with. She came To NZ 1912 and we have her from there. Appreciate anything. Sue

Maybe not a Roll Call? But we could do a "Gt Grandpa Call" - that would cut it down a bit?? Anne Paling SHEFFIELD, U.K. >From: "Michelle Rowe" <pekali@xtra.co.nz> >To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [LEI] Quietness >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:00:52 +1200 > >Me too in New Zealand. >Is it permissible to do a roll call on this list, I know some don't allow >them? > >Michelle > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me too in New Zealand. Is it permissible to do a roll call on this list, I know some don't allow them? Michelle

FreeBMD shows 12 Dulcie's born in Leicestershire between 1885 = 1895. Two of these in Melton Mowbray (Sep 1886 and Dec 1894) Perhaps one of these is your Dulcie. Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Francis Payne Sent: October 7, 2007 12:58 AM To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] DULCIE the barmaid ! Here's an extremely long longshot. My grandfather Ted Wadsley ran the Harborough Hotel at Melton Mowbray from about 1908-1912. He left his wife and went to Canada with Dulcie, a barmaid from the hotel. Their outward passage lists them as Mr & Mrs Wadsley. On the other side Dulcie writes her correct name but the surname is unreadable. Dulcie was born c1890. They had a daughter Joan b1913 (thus my mother's sister and my aunt). Would be nice to know what became of her. Does anyone have this Dulcie in their family ?? Regards Francis Payne Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue, In both the 1891 and 1901 Censuses Ada BURGESS, born about 1875 in Enderby, was a servant, living at the addresses of her employers. In Leicester (22 Market Place) in 1901 and in Blaby (Leicester Road) in 1891. I can give you more details of the employers if you want them. In 1881, while Ada (niece), aged 6, was living with the family of Thomas and Mary Ann COLLEDGE in Marsdens Lane, Leicester, there was an Emma BURGESS, born about 1853 in Enderby, working as a General Servant with the family of Charles BOWLES, a master clothier and outfitter, at 5 Brighton Villas, Princes Street, Leicester. Emma was described as 'unmarried' but she is the only Emma Burgess that I can find that looks anything like a likely person. The Births Index lists the birth of Ada BURGESS in the Oct/Nov/Dec Quarter of 1874 in the registration district of Blaby, Area 7a, Page 33. I have searched 1875 and 1876 and this birth is the only likely match. Blaby is the correct Reg. Dist. for Enderby. I can't find any sort of match for a James BURGESS in the 1881 Census. There is a James GAMBLE but he is a married quarryman (about 30 something) living with his family in Enderby. If you already have Ada's birth certificate then you probably know more than I do. If you haven't got the cert. I think you are going to have to send for it. If you do decide to get the cert., let me know and I will double check the references before you apply. Also, let me know if you want any more information or if you have anything that might help any of the searches. Regards, Jack Allen. Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands, U.K.

Sorry that I seem to upset the apple cart. As one lister suggested I could have sent a real query but it honestly didn't occur to me at the time as I had checked all the avenues with no result I really didn't expect it to go through. I have answered everyone off line. Annette in Cowra