I just would like to say a big "Thank You" to my late night on-line friends on this list, especially Nivard OVINGTON, Christine DENTON, Mel SMITH and also Olwyn I appreciated your reply regarding this Census information and the answer was, of course, the 1841 Census. Thanks again everyone. Regards, Doreen Doreen Welch <doreenwelch@yahoo.ca> wrote: Greetings List, If anyone is awake and inputting and feeling helpful tonite at this time 11.30 pm - do you think you could please remind me which Census rounded the ages? (I have someone asking me and I can't remember.) Sorry to be such a silly, but the brain does not seem to be working tonite. I definitely have checked google, but don't seem able to find what I am looking for.. Many thanks. Doreen (in Hinckley) --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Doreen --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Hi Doreen It was just the 1841 (of the available census online) 1851 on should be as given by the head of household Ages over 15 should have been rounded down to the nearest five years so a 29 year old should have been enumerated as 25, a 41 year as 40 etc Mind you many enumerators either ignored it or did not understand the rules as laid down This may help with other abbreviations etc http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcots/Enum.html Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Greetings List, > > If anyone is awake and inputting and feeling helpful > tonite at this time 11.30 pm - do you think you could > please remind me which Census rounded > the ages? > (I have someone asking me and I can't remember.) > > Sorry to be such a silly, but the brain does not seem > to be working tonite. > I definitely have checked google, but don't seem able to > find what I am looking for.. > > Many thanks. > Doreen (in Hinckley)

For the 1841 census the enumerators were supposed to round DOWN to the nearest increment of 5 all ages over 15 years. Not all of them did this however. Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doreen Welch Sent: December 5, 2007 6:31 PM To: Leicester Subject: [LEI] General Census Information help requested Greetings List, If anyone is awake and inputting and feeling helpful tonite at this time 11.30 pm - do you think you could please remind me which Census rounded the ages? (I have someone asking me and I can't remember.) Sorry to be such a silly, but the brain does not seem to be working tonite. I definitely have checked google, but don't seem able to find what I am looking for.. Many thanks. Doreen (in Hinckley) --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you sooo very much for your prompt reply. Glad that you were able to help me. Many thanks. (Glad you were still awake Nivard!) Regards, Doreen Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: Hi Doreen It was just the 1841 (of the available census online) 1851 on should be as given by the head of household Ages over 15 should have been rounded down to the nearest five years so a 29 year old should have been enumerated as 25, a 41 year as 40 etc Mind you many enumerators either ignored it or did not understand the rules as laid down This may help with other abbreviations etc http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcots/Enum.html Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Greetings List, > > If anyone is awake and inputting and feeling helpful > tonite at this time 11.30 pm - do you think you could > please remind me which Census rounded > the ages? > (I have someone asking me and I can't remember.) > > Sorry to be such a silly, but the brain does not seem > to be working tonite. > I definitely have checked google, but don't seem able to > find what I am looking for.. > > Many thanks. > Doreen (in Hinckley) --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Greetings List, If anyone is awake and inputting and feeling helpful tonite at this time 11.30 pm - do you think you could please remind me which Census rounded the ages? (I have someone asking me and I can't remember.) Sorry to be such a silly, but the brain does not seem to be working tonite. I definitely have checked google, but don't seem able to find what I am looking for.. Many thanks. Doreen (in Hinckley) --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Hi Carole Entering Launde Abbey into :- http://maps.google.com/ Will take you to a modern map of the area For an older map try :- http://www.old-maps.co.uk Enter the co-ordinates 479600 304200 which should take you there Lesley mentions the fish ponds which we used to fish many years ago, they were certainly well kept then, although shallow there were good Rudd, Roach and some Carp, being shallow the fish were very wary and all the harder to catch I wonder if their ancestors were there in your ancestors day <vbg> Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Regarding your marriage licence I would ask the Leicestershire Records Office if they have anything on it > Dear Leicestershire Members, > I hope someone can help me. I have discovered on Ancestry.com UK that my > ancestor John Brown married Dorothy Gowsey in 1617. Both were of Lawnde > Abbey. > The marriage was recorded in Book 1 fo. 144. Question: does Lawnde Abbey > still > exist? Is it a town or perhaps a church? Does Book #1 still exist? Where > would it be? Are there research facilities in the area where I could > find out > more about the Brown and Gowsey families? Any help or ideas you can give > me are > greatly appreciated. > Sincerely, > Carole

G'day The 2006 version [15th edition] sorts the facts chronologically. Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Quineys" <pquiney@post.com> To: <leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker > As I say, I'm happy with FTM 2005. The major gripe I have is that I > cannot sort the facts chronologically. I live in hope that a future > version will provide that option but in the meantime, I think I'll stick > with the devil I know. > > Thanks for the tip though. If I fall out with FTM, I'll bear it in mind > ;-) > Heather Q > > > > Sue Hope wrote: >> If you want to produce your own style of family tree there is >> Microsoft Visio which I use at work for staff trees, but is also great >> for hybrids within the family. My Roots Magic produces all the usual >> ones but sometime trying to show a sideways or diagonal lineage for >> someone who has contacted me on Ancestry.co.uk, this comes up trumps. >> >> /Sue Hope (nee Ludlam)/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:46:18 +0000 >> > From: pquiney@post.com >> > To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker >> > >> > I, too, am happy with FTM 2005. My main complaint is that I cannot >> > order the information that I choose to include on a tree printout (of >> > *any* kind) chronologically. I would love to see the marriage date >> > interspersed within the various census details in the appropriate place >> > but instead have to place it before them all or after them all <grrrr> >> > I contacted FTM support (some time ago) and they confirmed that I >> > couldn't order them chronologically. >> > >> > Heather Q > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carole, Launde Abbey (note present spelling) most certainly still exists, about a mile north of the village of Loddington, and about 5 miles south west of Oakham. My mother-in-law was born at Loddington and baptised in the Abbey. I think it has had a chequered history, owned at one time (if my memory is correct) by Oliver Cromwell, and is now used as a Church of England retreat. There are extensive grounds around the Abbey which are open to the public (although the Abbey is not) as public roads run through, and the fish ponds still exist, although very neglected. It's a very pleasant spot for a summer picnic, if you are in the area. The Record Office should know if the records you want have been deposited. HTH Lesley -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of CABROWN@aol.com Dear Leicestershire Members, I hope someone can help me. I have discovered on Ancestry.com UK that my ancestor John Brown married Dorothy Gowsey in 1617. Both were of Lawnde Abbey. The marriage was recorded in Book 1 fo. 144. Question: does Lawnde Abbey still exist? Is it a town or perhaps a church? Does Book #1 still exist? Where would it be? Are there research facilities in the area where I could find out more about the Brown and Gowsey families? Any help or ideas you can give me are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Carole

The URL below is for FTM queries, they are really helpful and may be able to supply answers to some of the questions being asked on the list. They have certainly helped me. FTM-HELP-request@rootsweb.com just put subscribe in the subject Annette

Mel, Thanks for that info. Having also been annoyed at FTM not being able to display in date order, I am grateful for your advice. I suppose, now I think about it, that many computer lists will format in the order required, (date, alphabetically,) if the field name is clicked. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mel Smith Sent: 05 December 2007 00:06 To: 'The Quineys'; leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker To sort the facts alphabetically by type or place or by date you need to click on the header of the column you want to sort by. So to sort the facts by date click on the header that says "DATE" in the facts window Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Quineys Sent: December 4, 2007 4:15 PM To: leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker As I say, I'm happy with FTM 2005. The major gripe I have is that I cannot sort the facts chronologically. I live in hope that a future version will provide that option but in the meantime, I think I'll stick with the devil I know. Thanks for the tip though. If I fall out with FTM, I'll bear it in mind ;-) Heather Q Sue Hope wrote: > If you want to produce your own style of family tree there is > Microsoft Visio which I use at work for staff trees, but is also great > for hybrids within the family. My Roots Magic produces all the usual > ones but sometime trying to show a sideways or diagonal lineage for > someone who has contacted me on Ancestry.co.uk, this comes up trumps. > > /Sue Hope (nee Ludlam)/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:46:18 +0000 > > From: pquiney@post.com > > To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker > > > > I, too, am happy with FTM 2005. My main complaint is that I cannot > > order the information that I choose to include on a tree printout (of > > *any* kind) chronologically. I would love to see the marriage date > > interspersed within the various census details in the appropriate place > > but instead have to place it before them all or after them all <grrrr> > > I contacted FTM support (some time ago) and they confirmed that I > > couldn't order them chronologically. > > > > Heather Q ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As I say, I'm happy with FTM 2005. The major gripe I have is that I cannot sort the facts chronologically. I live in hope that a future version will provide that option but in the meantime, I think I'll stick with the devil I know. Thanks for the tip though. If I fall out with FTM, I'll bear it in mind ;-) Heather Q Sue Hope wrote: > If you want to produce your own style of family tree there is > Microsoft Visio which I use at work for staff trees, but is also great > for hybrids within the family. My Roots Magic produces all the usual > ones but sometime trying to show a sideways or diagonal lineage for > someone who has contacted me on Ancestry.co.uk, this comes up trumps. > > /Sue Hope (nee Ludlam)/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:46:18 +0000 > > From: pquiney@post.com > > To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker > > > > I, too, am happy with FTM 2005. My main complaint is that I cannot > > order the information that I choose to include on a tree printout (of > > *any* kind) chronologically. I would love to see the marriage date > > interspersed within the various census details in the appropriate place > > but instead have to place it before them all or after them all <grrrr> > > I contacted FTM support (some time ago) and they confirmed that I > > couldn't order them chronologically. > > > > Heather Q

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To sort the facts alphabetically by type or place or by date you need to click on the header of the column you want to sort by. So to sort the facts by date click on the header that says "DATE" in the facts window Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Quineys Sent: December 4, 2007 4:15 PM To: leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker As I say, I'm happy with FTM 2005. The major gripe I have is that I cannot sort the facts chronologically. I live in hope that a future version will provide that option but in the meantime, I think I'll stick with the devil I know. Thanks for the tip though. If I fall out with FTM, I'll bear it in mind ;-) Heather Q Sue Hope wrote: > If you want to produce your own style of family tree there is > Microsoft Visio which I use at work for staff trees, but is also great > for hybrids within the family. My Roots Magic produces all the usual > ones but sometime trying to show a sideways or diagonal lineage for > someone who has contacted me on Ancestry.co.uk, this comes up trumps. > > /Sue Hope (nee Ludlam)/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:46:18 +0000 > > From: pquiney@post.com > > To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker > > > > I, too, am happy with FTM 2005. My main complaint is that I cannot > > order the information that I choose to include on a tree printout (of > > *any* kind) chronologically. I would love to see the marriage date > > interspersed within the various census details in the appropriate place > > but instead have to place it before them all or after them all <grrrr> > > I contacted FTM support (some time ago) and they confirmed that I > > couldn't order them chronologically. > > > > Heather Q ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carole, Not sure, but could be this database (UK Subscription) ... England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland: Parish and Probate Records http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/epr/main.aspx Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: <CAROLEBELL48@aol.com> To: <leicestershire-plus-l-request@rootsweb.com>; <leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: [LEI] Ancestry.co.uk >I have subscribed to the Ancestry. Com website for over a year and have >only > been able to research information from 1838. I note from a recent query > that > Carole has been able to research her ancestors from the 1600s. What am I > missing. > > Carole Bell > Colorado. USA

I've recently found out I've been tracing the wrong SIKES/ SYKES line in Loughborough thanks to a Methodist baptism listing FANNY TAYLOR's Grandparents. I'm now looking for the family of: PETER SIKES and ANN PEGG who married at All Saints, Loughborough in 1790. The All Saints PR's only list daughter MARY baptised 1793 and the burial of son William while my GGG Grandmother is Elizabeth born around 1798 (baptism unfound). I believe Peter was the s/o PETER SIKES and JANE KNIGHT who married at St. Mary's, Leicester in 1760. I'd love to hear from anyone interested in the SIKES families in Loughborough. Judith Evans Worcestershire

I have had a look at Family Tree Maker 2008 and I do not like it. It is less flexible than earlier versions. Jim -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Hope Sent: 04 December 2007 13:54 To: The Quineys; leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker If you want to produce your own style of family tree there is Microsoft Visio which I use at work for staff trees, but is also great for hybrids within the family. My Roots Magic produces all the usual ones but sometime trying to show a sideways or diagonal lineage for someone who has contacted me on Ancestry.co.uk, this comes up trumps.Sue Hope (nee Ludlam) > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:46:18 +0000> From: pquiney@post.com> To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker> > I, too, am happy with FTM 2005. My main complaint is that I cannot > order the information that I choose to include on a tree printout (of > *any* kind) chronologically. I would love to see the marriage date > interspersed within the various census details in the appropriate place > but instead have to place it before them all or after them all <grrrr> > I contacted FTM support (some time ago) and they confirmed that I > couldn't order them chronologically.> > Heather Q> > > Martin Brown wrote:> > I have FTM 2005 and it doesn't seem to have any difficulty pasting into > > the notes. The key combination ctrl-v pastes whatever is in the paste > > buffer.> > (And ctrl-c will copy any selection into the paste buffer)> >> > The only really annoying fault I have found with it was that it was > > totally incompatible with printing on my par! ents cheap Epson 860 printer > > for some strange reason everything was white on white. Other programs > > printed OK.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you want to produce your own style of family tree there is Microsoft Visio which I use at work for staff trees, but is also great for hybrids within the family. My Roots Magic produces all the usual ones but sometime trying to show a sideways or diagonal lineage for someone who has contacted me on Ancestry.co.uk, this comes up trumps.Sue Hope (nee Ludlam) > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:46:18 +0000> From: pquiney@post.com> To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Family Tree Maker> > I, too, am happy with FTM 2005. My main complaint is that I cannot > order the information that I choose to include on a tree printout (of > *any* kind) chronologically. I would love to see the marriage date > interspersed within the various census details in the appropriate place > but instead have to place it before them all or after them all <grrrr> > I contacted FTM support (some time ago) and they confirmed that I > couldn't order them chronologically.> > Heather Q> > > Martin Brown wrote:> > I have FTM 2005 and it doesn't seem to have any difficulty pasting into > > the notes. The key combination ctrl-v pastes whatever is in the paste > > buffer.> > (And ctrl-c will copy any selection into the paste buffer)> >> > The only really annoying fault I have found with it was that it was > > totally incompatible with printing on my parents cheap Epson 860 printer > > for some strange reason everything was white on white. Other programs > > printed OK.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk

I have subscribed to the Ancestry. Com website for over a year and have only been able to research information from 1838. I note from a recent query that Carole has been able to research her ancestors from the 1600s. What am I missing. Carole Bell Colorado. USA **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Yeah, I know the area well myself, so was very confused to see the extra village! I did wonder if it was a mistake, as the text on maps.live.com is exactly where the text on the ordnance survey maps say "groby pool". I used the feedback form on maps.live.com to report the error yesterday, so if I get a reply I'll let the list know what it says! Thanks for the info John - very interesting. Makes me even more inclined to go back to my trusty OS paper maps though - the fictitious "Newtown Limford" is even indexed, and you can get travel directions to it!! How confusing must that be for people who don't know the area? Imagine if you use Google Maps for directions and they send you down a street that doesn't exist? cheers all Em On 03/12/2007, John De-Hayes <johndehayes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > A lot of online map suppliers deliberately put incorrect or extra > information on their maps so they can check for copyright violations. > Google > Maps add extra streets, or other features that don't in fact exist. This > was > highlighted in a TV programme by Nicholas Crane - the guy who presents > MapMan and Coast. > > I lived and worked in this area and I can confirm that there is no such > place as Newtown LIMFORD. The map I generated had the name by a water > feature, which is known as Groby (pronounced Grooby) Pool. > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Berry > Wraight > Sent: 03 December 2007 21:25 > To: Emma Faulkner > Cc: Leicestershire plus > Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford > > Indeed I did, I had not realised that you were talking about the village > being shown in the wrong place. Will be interested in maps.live's view on > that!! > > Cheers > > Berry > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Berry > > > > Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford > - > > I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate > Park > > and little thatched cottages. > > > > But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to > > the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on > any > > other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I > know > > that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... > > > > Cheers > > > > Em > > > > On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as > Newtown > > > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Berry > > > > > > > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner < schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com, > > > > where > > > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby > > > > Pool: > > > > > > > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does > not > > > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1 > . > 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford > ,% > 20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200< > http://www.multimap.com/ > maps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,- > 1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB: > 52.68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford > ,%20Leicester,%2 > 0Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 > &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? > > > > I'm > > > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, > as > > > > I > > > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > > > looking up > > > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Em > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1167 - Release Date: > 03/12/2007 > 12:20 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1167 - Release Date: > 03/12/2007 > 12:20 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/

HYPERLINK "http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=479500&y=304500&z=5&sv=479500,30450 0&st=OSGrid&lu=N&tl=~&ar=y&bi=~&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf" Here is a map of Launde Abbey It's located between Leicester and Uppingham. -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CABROWN@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:58 AM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 362 Dear Leicestershire Members, I hope someone can help me. I have discovered on Ancestry.com UK that my ancestor John Brown married Dorothy Gowsey in 1617. Both were of Lawnde Abbey. The marriage was recorded in Book 1 fo. 144. Question: does Lawnde Abbey still exist? Is it a town or perhaps a church? Does Book #1 still exist? Where would it be? Are there research facilities in the area where I could find out more about the Brown and Gowsey families? Any help or ideas you can give me are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Carole In a message dated 12/3/2007 4:52:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, leicestershire-plus-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC (A P L) 2. Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Emma Faulkner) 3. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Berry Wraight) 4. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Emma Faulkner) 5. Re: GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC (Elizabeth Agar) 6. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Berry Wraight) 7. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (John De-Hayes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:10:35 +0000 From: A P L <annepaling@hotmail.com> Subject: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY130-W2645229540E418EB4BEA51D66C0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking for a simple, repeat simple, and easily understandable guide to the county, parish, etc set up in England. Is there one on line? I love maps and geography was one of my "best" subjects at school so I find myself trying to explain proximity or not of locations to Listers on a fairly frequent basis. I have a record of several very useful map sites. I usually have one or the other alongside me when I am researching. However, I have never found an good explanation of the relationship between the various administrative levels in England in 19th century and before on line. Any ideas? Anne PalingSHEFFIELD, U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:33:01 +0000 From: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Subject: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Leicestershire plus" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <46e385820712030233k4e4c7ddap2b91e6a84faab597@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com, where they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not appear on multimap: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24 234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,%20 Le icester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200 Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &s t=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are looking up Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? Cheers Em -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:51:28 +0000 From: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <d176498b0712030251h4796e971uca17f56cad887854@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com, where > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > appear on multimap: > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,% 2 0Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200 > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are looking > up > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > Cheers > > Em > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:56:19 +0000 From: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <46e385820712030256p736f7723s4d89a7ce70ae2eee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Berry Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park and little thatched cottages. But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... Cheers Em On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > Cheers > > Berry > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > where > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford, %20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.com /m aps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB:5 2. 68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%20Le ic estershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > looking up > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > Cheers > > > > Em > > > > > > > > -- > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:52:04 +1100 From: "Elizabeth Agar" <emagar@hotkey.net.au> Subject: Re: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC To: "'A P L'" <annepaling@hotmail.com>, <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c835a2$ec6909e0$0201a8c0@useree29f53535> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Anne, This might be useful - found via the GENUKI page for England - http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/%7Ejimella/counties.htm#chaos Also for a counties map - http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/%7Ejimella/countmap.htm Cheers, Liz in Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A P L Sent: Monday, 3 December 2007 8:11 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC I am looking for a simple, repeat simple, and easily understandable guide to the county, parish, etc set up in England. Is there one on line? I love maps and geography was one of my "best" subjects at school so I find myself trying to explain proximity or not of locations to Listers on a fairly frequent basis. I have a record of several very useful map sites. I usually have one or the other alongside me when I am researching. However, I have never found an good explanation of the relationship between the various administrative levels in England in 19th century and before on line. Any ideas? Anne PalingSHEFFIELD, U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:25:28 +0000 From: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <d176498b0712031325g44ed8d9cve41c81098d5545e7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Indeed I did, I had not realised that you were talking about the village being shown in the wrong place. Will be interested in maps.live's view on that!! Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi Berry > > Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - > I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park > and little thatched cottages. > > But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to > the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any > other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know > that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... > > Cheers > > Em > > On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > > > Cheers > > > > Berry > > > > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner < schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > > where > > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby > > > Pool: > > > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linfor d,%20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.c om /maps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB :5 2.68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%20 Le icestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? > > > I'm > > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as > > > I > > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > > looking up > > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Em > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:50:28 -0000 From: "John De-Hayes" <johndehayes@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "'Leicestershire plus'" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000f01c835f6$84d57df0$6501a8c0@JohnLaptop2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" A lot of online map suppliers deliberately put incorrect or extra information on their maps so they can check for copyright violations. Google Maps add extra streets, or other features that don't in fact exist. This was highlighted in a TV programme by Nicholas Crane - the guy who presents MapMan and Coast. I lived and worked in this area and I can confirm that there is no such place as Newtown LIMFORD. The map I generated had the name by a water feature, which is known as Groby (pronounced Grooby) Pool. -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Berry Wraight Sent: 03 December 2007 21:25 To: Emma Faulkner Cc: Leicestershire plus Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford Indeed I did, I had not realised that you were talking about the village being shown in the wrong place. Will be interested in maps.live's view on that!! Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi Berry > > Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - > I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park > and little thatched cottages. > > But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to > the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any > other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know > that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... > > Cheers > > Em > > On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > > > Cheers > > > > Berry > > > > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner < schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > > where > > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby > > > Pool: > > > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,% 20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.com/ maps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB: 52.68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%2 0Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? > > > I'm > > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as > > > I > > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > > looking up > > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Em > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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