----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn Carter To: john & barbara moore Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Fw: Please Forward ----- Original Message ----- From: John Mar To: lpcarter@bigpond.net.au Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: FW: Please Forward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graeme Bickle [mailto:gbickle@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:31 PM To: Alan Stares; Andrea Katsaros; Andrew Mole; Anthony Lavender; Bill Terrington; Craige Galloway; Dale the GURU; David Levi; cawgal@bigpond.com; Frank Sims; JMar; Kym McConnell; bigmark@primus.com.au; melvin.harris@bigpond.com; mick@headingbush.com; Mike Hewitt; spectune@bigpond.net.au; Peter and Sabine; phil.hantken@baesystems.com; Rgb@Bigpond. Net. Au; tombrain@bigpond.net.au Subject: Please Forward It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead. He said: 'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.' All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke In Memorium This week, the UK removed the Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offended' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. This is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it. It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated with the German and Russian peoples looking the other way! Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets. This e-mail is intended to reach 40 million people worldwide! Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world. Don't just delete this. It will only take a minute to pass this along. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1172 - Release Date: 5/12/07 08:41

Hello all, I have attached this email to every one in my Dads address book so if you have received this and don't know Ron personally I apologise. It is with much regret that I have to inform you of the passing of my Dad, Ron Hawthorne. He has been ill for some months now, and was admitted to hospital again a couple of weeks ago. Things took a turn for the worst and he passed away on Wednesday 28th November. Dad received so much enjoyment from his computer and all his genealogy contacts, (that was when we realised how sick he was when he was unable to continue !) Most days started with "I'll get into the computer room today" but unfortunately he never did. I would just like to thank all of you for the friendship and help that you showed him over the years, as much as he drove us nuts with all of his family trees talk, he so enjoyed every minute he spent in front of this screen. We will miss him so much, as theres no one quite like my Dad ! Regards Cheryl Evans ( Rons daughter)

This false suggestion has been doing the rounds for months now! Please see the following BBC News item, dated 17th April... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6563429.stm Brian Haywood in Australia

Who said it was just Muslims, there are also plenty of non Muslim right wingers who deny that it happened. Any way this is politics and however good the cause should not be on this list regards Terry > From: jbmoore@maxnet.co.nz > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:39:55 +1300 > Subject: [LEI] Fw: Please Forward to all > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lynn Carter > To: john & barbara moore > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:47 PM > Subject: Fw: Please Forward > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Mar > To: lpcarter@bigpond.net.au > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:24 PM > Subject: FW: Please Forward > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Graeme Bickle [mailto:gbickle@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:31 PM > To: Alan Stares; Andrea Katsaros; Andrew Mole; Anthony Lavender; Bill Terrington; Craige Galloway; Dale the GURU; David Levi; cawgal@bigpond.com; Frank Sims; JMar; Kym McConnell; bigmark@primus.com.au; melvin.harris@bigpond.com; mick@headingbush.com; Mike Hewitt; spectune@bigpond.net.au; Peter and Sabine; phil.hantken@baesystems.com; Rgb@Bigpond. Net. Au; tombrain@bigpond.net.au > Subject: Please Forward > > > > > > > > > It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead. > > He said: 'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.' > > All that is necessary for the triumph of > evil is for good men to do nothing. > > Edmund Burke > > In Memorium > > > This week, the UK removed the Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offended' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. This is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it. It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the > > six million Jews, > 20 million Russians, > 10 million Christians > and 1,900 Catholic priests > > > who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated with the German and Russian peoples looking the other way! Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets. > > This e-mail is intended to reach 40 million people worldwide! Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world. Don't just delete this. > It will only take a minute to pass this along. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1172 - Release Date: 5/12/07 08:41 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE

l find the anti muslim posting that appeared earlier very offensive. Firstly because the so called report was untrue but also because racist propaganda has appeared on this mailing list. This is not the place to discuss our political views or to air our racist thoughts. Lets stick to what we are here to do which is to help and support each other with our family history research. Andy

Thank you Mark for replying to this so quickly. My first reaction was surprise to see the initial e-mail included on this list which turned to outrage when I read it and was very willing to forward it. I was therefore extremly glad to hear that it was false! Berry On 07/12/2007, MAshwell@aol.com <MAshwell@aol.com> wrote: > > I have to point out that the information within this email is false. > > The UK government has not removed the holocaust from the national > curriculum, and has no plans to do so. The holocaust is studied in depth > in several > school subjects. Two of my children attend a school in Leicester which > has a > large number of Muslim students, and they are all preparing to mark > National > Holocaust day on 27th January. > > I am sure other "posters" on this mailing list who live in Leicester will > know a few Muslims - please ask your Muslim friends. I have and not one > has > denied the holocaust. > > Ironically, I read this email to my teenage daughter, and she now plans > to > include in a project as an example of how the spread of mis-information > could > inadvertently (or otherwise) encourage persecution of different peoples. > > Mark > Leicester > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have to point out that the information within this email is false. The UK government has not removed the holocaust from the national curriculum, and has no plans to do so. The holocaust is studied in depth in several school subjects. Two of my children attend a school in Leicester which has a large number of Muslim students, and they are all preparing to mark National Holocaust day on 27th January. I am sure other "posters" on this mailing list who live in Leicester will know a few Muslims - please ask your Muslim friends. I have and not one has denied the holocaust. Ironically, I read this email to my teenage daughter, and she now plans to include in a project as an example of how the spread of mis-information could inadvertently (or otherwise) encourage persecution of different peoples. Mark Leicester

With apologies to the list owner for speaking out of turn, I find it offensive that this list is being used to spread this kind of material, especially since it isn't even true! Vern in Ontario > > > > > > It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied > Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he > ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people > from surrounding villages to be ushered > > This week, the UK removed the Holocaust from its school curriculum because > it 'offended' the Muslim population

I have a Samuel HARRIS (1800) who married Sarah Rose in Ravenstone in 1823.? I believe Samuel was related to the Westcotes HARRISes but cannot find the connection.? There is a Westcotes website which says that there was a Joseph HARRIS (1797) from Worthington who bought Westcotes in 1843. The Westcotes HARRISes were either solicitors or in the church and this is at at odds with my Samuel who on his daughter's wedding certificate was listed as a confectioner.? Of course there are so many HARRISes but am sure there was a link because my WAKEFIELD grandmother used to talk about the family and carried round a photo of Westcotes. Can anyone help? Penny Wakefield ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

I think the records office at Wigston have some records of Corah's At 01:59 12/7/2007 -0500, Donald Hurd wrote: > >A friend of mine thinks she may have FISHER ancestors who were framework knitters and who moved into Leicester in the latter half of the Nineteenth Century to work for Corah's. Does anybody know if any records of Corah's employees exist, or how else one might follow this up ? > >Don Hurd (Leicester born, living in Newfoundland but currently visiting UK) >_________________________________________________________________ >Use fowl language with Chicktionary. Click here to start playing! >http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Regards George. Home Page: http://web.localdial.com/users/airforce LRFHS Page: http://www.lrfhs.org.uk Jersey Centenary Battle of lowers:http://www.localdial.com/users/airforce/battle.html

Hi Lesley It sounds like the ones we fished are the same as the ones in use today, they were close to the road, that I remember It sounds like there were others you describe that we did not know of Memory? half the time I can't remember what happened yesterday never mind years ago <vbg> Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, > > The ones being fished these days are alongside the roads, very easy to > spot > and some are fairly close together. > > It's a number of years since I saw the historic ones but they are hidden > behind hedges or something as I seem to remember happening upon them, and > my > memory says they were rectangular, seemingly constructed rather than > natural. It looked like nobody went there much. Does that enable you to > sort out your memories? > > Cheers, > Lesley

Hi Nivard, The ones being fished these days are alongside the roads, very easy to spot and some are fairly close together. It's a number of years since I saw the historic ones but they are hidden behind hedges or something as I seem to remember happening upon them, and my memory says they were rectangular, seemingly constructed rather than natural. It looked like nobody went there much. Does that enable you to sort out your memories? Cheers, Lesley -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington1@sky.com] Sent: 06 December 2007 10:18 To: Lesley Chaney; CABROWN@aol.com; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Launde Abbey BROWN GOWSEY Hi Lesley I was under the impression the ones we used to fish were the old Monks fish ponds ? I take it there were more then? The one in particular I remember was a long pool with a small island in the middle , I seem to recall there was another close by? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK)

Just a point. It's far easier to "blow up" the image on the screen, you can get to 200%, than printing and using a magnifying glass. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Hope Sent: 06 December 2007 14:44 To: John Kane; carolebell48@aol.com; leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Ancestry.co.uk I have been a member of Ancestry.co.uk (the British version although it allows you to access .com) for several years now and find the cost is more than saved just getting the census etc print offs (which BDM & Genes Reunited etc all charge for). Though I must admit sometimes you have to go a roundabout way to get the information. For example - My maternal grandmother was Lettuce Lillian Mary Beadle - I knew she was 1888 born London way and then came to Warwickshire. Couldn't find her in 1891 census and but did (as Lily) in the 1901 census in Berkswell, Warwickshire where she was being fostered with her 2 brothers (which I didn't know about as they weren't around post WW2). So I searched for the brothers in the 1891 census and there she was transcribed as Hetty! I printed it off and with the magnifying glass I can see it was written as Letty - a family term of endearment wrongly transcribed. However I was really confused when Ancestry showed the sibling of my great grandfather Albert Ludlam, to be a man called Lorain - the family verbal records all said it was a sister Lorraine. So I went through all the census records and there he was, married late in life with a daughter. I had to ring my cousin and tell her - it seems as the job was a confectioner with own premises, they all thought she made sweets instead of being the owner of a general store! So those two alone would have cost me 8 copies. RegardsSue Hope > From: roots@johnkane.clara.co.uk> To: CAROLEBELL48@aol.com; leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:44:29 +0000> Subject: Re: [LEI] Ancestry.co.uk> > Carole,> > Not sure, but could be this database (UK Subscription) ...> > England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland: Parish and Probate Records> > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/epr/main.aspx> > Regards,> John> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CAROLEBELL48@aol.com>> To: <leicestershire-plus-l-request@rootsweb.com>; > <leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 4:27 PM> Subject: [LEI] Ancestry.co.uk> > > >I have subscribed to the Ancestry. Com website for over a year and have > >only> > been able to research information from 1838. I note from a recent query > > that> > Carole has been able to research her ancestors from the 1600s. What am I> > missing.> >> > Carole Bell> > Colorado. USA> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Celeb spotting - Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had not been aware of this bit on Ancestry, what a find! thank you for flagging it up, I have now been able to find another candidate for my Gx4 grandfather to persue - hopefully to find he is the right one. Cheers Berry On 04/12/2007, John Kane <roots@johnkane.clara.co.uk> wrote: > > Carole, > > Not sure, but could be this database (UK Subscription) ... > > England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland: Parish and Probate Records > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/epr/main.aspx > > Regards, > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CAROLEBELL48@aol.com> > To: <leicestershire-plus-l-request@rootsweb.com>; > <leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 4:27 PM > Subject: [LEI] Ancestry.co.uk > > > >I have subscribed to the Ancestry. Com website for over a year and have > >only > > been able to research information from 1838. I note from a recent query > > that > > Carole has been able to research her ancestors from the 1600s. What am I > > missing. > > > > Carole Bell > > Colorado. USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A friend of mine thinks she may have FISHER ancestors who were framework knitters and who moved into Leicester in the latter half of the Nineteenth Century to work for Corah's. Does anybody know if any records of Corah's employees exist, or how else one might follow this up ? Don Hurd (Leicester born, living in Newfoundland but currently visiting UK) _________________________________________________________________ Use fowl language with Chicktionary. Click here to start playing! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig

Hi Doreen, it is the 1841 cencus that rounds the cencus Cheers Olwyn

I have been a member of Ancestry.co.uk (the British version although it allows you to access .com) for several years now and find the cost is more than saved just getting the census etc print offs (which BDM & Genes Reunited etc all charge for). Though I must admit sometimes you have to go a roundabout way to get the information. For example - My maternal grandmother was Lettuce Lillian Mary Beadle - I knew she was 1888 born London way and then came to Warwickshire. Couldn't find her in 1891 census and but did (as Lily) in the 1901 census in Berkswell, Warwickshire where she was being fostered with her 2 brothers (which I didn't know about as they weren't around post WW2). So I searched for the brothers in the 1891 census and there she was transcribed as Hetty! I printed it off and with the magnifying glass I can see it was written as Letty - a family term of endearment wrongly transcribed. However I was really confused when Ancestry showed the sibling of my great grandfather Albert Ludlam, to be a man called Lorain - the family verbal records all said it was a sister Lorraine. So I went through all the census records and there he was, married late in life with a daughter. I had to ring my cousin and tell her - it seems as the job was a confectioner with own premises, they all thought she made sweets instead of being the owner of a general store! So those two alone would have cost me 8 copies. RegardsSue Hope > From: roots@johnkane.clara.co.uk> To: CAROLEBELL48@aol.com; leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:44:29 +0000> Subject: Re: [LEI] Ancestry.co.uk> > Carole,> > Not sure, but could be this database (UK Subscription) ...> > England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland: Parish and Probate Records> > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/epr/main.aspx> > Regards,> John> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CAROLEBELL48@aol.com>> To: <leicestershire-plus-l-request@rootsweb.com>; > <leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 4:27 PM> Subject: [LEI] Ancestry.co.uk> > > >I have subscribed to the Ancestry. Com website for over a year and have > >only> > been able to research information from 1838. I note from a recent query > > that> > Carole has been able to research her ancestors from the 1600s. What am I> > missing.> >> > Carole Bell> > Colorado. USA> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com

Hi Lesley I was under the impression the ones we used to fish were the old Monks fish ponds ? I take it there were more then? The one in particular I remember was a long pool with a small island in the middle , I seem to recall there was another close by? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Carole and Nivard, > > It seems I didn't make myself too clear - oops. I was referring to the > historic fish ponds where the monks would have kept their fish stocks, not > easy to find but still there. > > The ones you would have fished, Nivard, are still in action. My kids > fished > there too. > > Lesley

Hi Carole and Nivard, It seems I didn't make myself too clear - oops. I was referring to the historic fish ponds where the monks would have kept their fish stocks, not easy to find but still there. The ones you would have fished, Nivard, are still in action. My kids fished there too. Lesley -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 05 December 2007 10:16 Lesley mentions the fish ponds which we used to fish many years ago, they were certainly well kept then, although shallow there were good Rudd, Roach and some Carp, being shallow the fish were very wary and all the harder to catch

I have tried for a number of years to find the baptisms of the children of Peter & Ann SCOTTON without success. I have just found a couple of burials on the Leicester Borough Burials Index CD at the above chapel in the right timeframe and wonder if the children might have been baptised at this chapel and not at one of the main churches in Leicester. The children I have so far from the censuses are, Nathaniel c.1825 Joseph c.1830 Sarah Ann c.1832 William c.1834 Mary c.1837 Elizabeth c.1844 John Thomas b. 2/2/1848. But there could be more as there is large gaps in the ages of the children. If anyone on the list can check this chapel for any baptisms for SCOTTON's it would be much appreciated, as I won't be able to get back to the Leicester RO for at least 3 months due to my husband having major surgery. Many thanks Jean