I continue to be e-mailed by these people every month despite not having used them since I took out a full annual subscription for Ancestry. co.uk some years ago. Could anyone advise me if there is anything there that you can't find in Ancestry? Tks Martin

Hi Donald, Have a look here: <http://books.google.com/books?id=Fq4AAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq=%22trun k+maker%22&source=web&ots=mRE6ew9QnN&sig=zl4uEIKLfoVSR_d2Tz95-z0NIfQ#PPA73,M 1> and search for trunk maker. (you'll probably have to re-build the above url into a single line) It describes the occupation of trunk maker. Best wishes, Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donald Hurd Sent: 14 December 2007 12:03 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] 1841 Census - Trunk Maker Many thanks to all who so promptly answered my call for help. All are agreed that the census entry describes William Cort in Great Bowden as a Trunk Maker. I presume this means the sort of large box that people packed their belongings in for a long trip - perhaps before suitcases became more commonly used - perhaps what boy would take to boarding school. I would have expected such an occupation to be in Leicester or Northampton where a market for such an item might exist. Most of the rest of the Corts in the area for wehom an occupation is given seem to be farmers or "ag labs" or graziers. Donald Hurd _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karen, As the crow flies, Liverpool is just under 100 miles from the asylum in Leicestershire. By modern roads it is around 136 miles. Any records will be in: The Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland, Long Street, Wigston Magna, Leicester, LE18 2AH Telephone: 0116 2571080 <http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/community/museums/record_office.htm> >From memory, there are certainly administration records for the asylum, but I can't remember whether they include details of the staff. Contact the Record Office and they will be able to tell you. Good luck, Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of karen phippen Sent: 14 December 2007 11:01 To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Leicestershire and Rutland Asylum - Ann Platt Hello everyone. Newbie for the list onboard. I am hoping that someone maybe able to share some knowledge. I believe that I may have located (after many years) my 4th G/Grandmother Ann Platt. (Nee Barrat) As per the 1871 census she is listed as being a Nurse at the Leicestershire and Rutland Asylum. So I have a few questions, and hope someone can assist, some of my questions maybe simple but as I am all the way "Down Under" I am unsure of the answers. My records show that my Ann (and her husband Thomas who died in 1843) was mainly located in the West Derby / Liverpool area. So my questions are How far away is Leicestershire to Liverpool ? Is anyone aware if staff records were kept (1871 forward and prior) and how I would obtain copies. Is anyone aware where she would of have had to train to be a nurse and how long training would have been. Where there staff quarters that they would have lived ? One of my problems in the past was that I "assumed" that Ann had passed away, as the last listing I have on her is on the 1841 census where the family (Thomas Snr, John, Joesph & Thomas Jnr) were (happily I hope) living in Toxeth Park. Thomas passed away in 1845. Left was Benjamin (2 yrs), John (17 yrs), Thomas (7 yrs) - Joseph had passed away in 1841 Q4. Whilst Thomas and Benjamin are both listed on the 1851 (as being the the West Derby Workhouse which I am led to believe that there are no records now available for this Workhouse at this time, assume they were destroyed somehow) I am unable to locate Ann or her eldest son John (who is my 3rd G/Grandfather and came to Australia in 1853, followed by Thomas and Benjamin the same year) on the 1851 census, nor am I able to find Ann on the 1861 census and whilst there are deaths of Ann in the West Derby area I am unable to match any that I have ordered succesfully as yet. Ann originated from Ireland (as per the 1841 census). So I am hoping that there was information of some sort held for staff, so that I can eliminate or celebrate my finding. Sorry for the long winded story, hope you can help - Thanks -- HAPPY HOLIDAYS ! The Phippen Family Sydney, Australia Searching for our ancestors all coming to Australia PLATT /BARRAT/MORGAN- UK, BENNETT / FORREST- Scotland, PHIPPEN - Unknown, PEDRON - France ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

karen phippen wrote: > strange as I never got the email I sent, so it must be this email system > (gmail) that is web based. Gmail isn't purely web based. You can use it with an email client with no problems *but* for some reason they don't download your own mail! You can see it if you use webview though. You're better off using gmail because of the efficient spam filters. Incidentally, if you've got a problem like this, it's better to contact the list admin direct rather than contact the list as all the mails relating to this subject are now in the archives for the duration.

Pam has already replied to explain that she looked at the wrong William. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George Sent: 14 December 2007 09:56 To: Donald Hurd; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Help to read 1841 census. Donald, I cannot agree with the "Pam...Sydney" answer, it certainly appears to be "Trunk M" and not "Coal Dealer" and it is stated that he was born in the county. (1841 England Census, Bowden Magna, Enumeration District 4, Page 11.) George Rainham, Kent. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Hurd" <donaldhurd@hotmail.com> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [LEI] Help to read 1841 census. > > If anyone has access to the 1841 census on CD or online or otherwise, I > would appreciate advice on a particular entry. I am looking at Bowden > Magna on page 11 of enumeration district 4. There it lists William and > Elizabeth Cort and their five small children. William is 25, Elizabeth is > 30. But I cannot read Wiliam's occupation. It looks like "Trunk m". Any > suggestions ? Don Hurd(Researching HURD, CORT, SCOTT, COOPER, POYNOR, > CARTWRIGHT and others) > _________________________________________________________________ > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! > http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donald, I cannot agree with the "Pam...Sydney" answer, it certainly appears to be "Trunk M" and not "Coal Dealer" and it is stated that he was born in the county. (1841 England Census, Bowden Magna, Enumeration District 4, Page 11.) George Rainham, Kent. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Hurd" <donaldhurd@hotmail.com> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [LEI] Help to read 1841 census. > > If anyone has access to the 1841 census on CD or online or otherwise, I > would appreciate advice on a particular entry. I am looking at Bowden > Magna on page 11 of enumeration district 4. There it lists William and > Elizabeth Cort and their five small children. William is 25, Elizabeth is > 30. But I cannot read Wiliam's occupation. It looks like "Trunk m". Any > suggestions ? Don Hurd(Researching HURD, CORT, SCOTT, COOPER, POYNOR, > CARTWRIGHT and others) > _________________________________________________________________ > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! > http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Donald, Yes, definitely 'Trunk m' for me - Trunk Maker, and born in the county. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Hurd" <donaldhurd@hotmail.com> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [LEI] Help to read 1841 census. > > If anyone has access to the 1841 census on CD or online or otherwise, I > would appreciate advice on a particular entry. I am looking at Bowden > Magna on page 11 of enumeration district 4. There it lists William and > Elizabeth Cort and their five small children. William is 25, Elizabeth is > 30. But I cannot read Wiliam's occupation. It looks like "Trunk m". Any > suggestions ? Don Hurd(Researching HURD, CORT, SCOTT, COOPER, POYNOR, > CARTWRIGHT and others)

Looks like Trunk m to me. Trunk maker? Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donald Hurd Sent: 14 December 2007 07:49 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Help to read 1841 census. If anyone has access to the 1841 census on CD or online or otherwise, I would appreciate advice on a particular entry. I am looking at Bowden Magna on page 11 of enumeration district 4. There it lists William and Elizabeth Cort and their five small children. William is 25, Elizabeth is 30. But I cannot read Wiliam's occupation. It looks like "Trunk m". Any suggestions ? Don Hurd(Researching HURD, CORT, SCOTT, COOPER, POYNOR, CARTWRIGHT and others) _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to all who so promptly answered my call for help. All are agreed that the census entry describes William Cort in Great Bowden as a Trunk Maker. I presume this means the sort of large box that people packed their belongings in for a long trip - perhaps before suitcases became more commonly used - perhaps what boy would take to boarding school. I would have expected such an occupation to be in Leicester or Northampton where a market for such an item might exist. Most of the rest of the Corts in the area for wehom an occupation is given seem to be farmers or "ag labs" or graziers. Donald Hurd _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig

If anyone has access to the 1841 census on CD or online or otherwise, I would appreciate advice on a particular entry. I am looking at Bowden Magna on page 11 of enumeration district 4. There it lists William and Elizabeth Cort and their five small children. William is 25, Elizabeth is 30. But I cannot read Wiliam's occupation. It looks like "Trunk m". Any suggestions ? Don Hurd(Researching HURD, CORT, SCOTT, COOPER, POYNOR, CARTWRIGHT and others) _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig

Hi List, I have been sent an incorrect certificate and I was wondering if it would help someone out. The name is Mary GOODWIN Date of death - 7 February 1897 Age 75 years Widow of Uriah GOODWIN Present at death - Catherine BERRY - daughter. If this is of any help to you, please letme know and I can forward on to you. Regards and all the best for this Christmas Season, Happy Hunting in 2008, Christine Wangaratta, Vic. Australia

Hi all, I'm looking for a Marriage between Thomas BOWDON and Helen SHRIGLEY sometime around 1600. Can anyone help? I'll be extremely grateful George

Hello Lutterworth, Leicestershire, Is anyone researching the name BANBURY please if so I would like to hear from you Regards Harold

I am seeking information regarding the DEUGARD family, particularly Catherine Jane Deugard born 1834 (married name Wright). Lived in Willey or Lutterworth. John Wright john@jsw.org.uk

of interest perhaps > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:09:09 +0000 > From: jw_email2004-clwyd@yahoo.co.uk > To: clwyd@rootsweb.com; CLWYD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CLWYD] Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History > > I saw this on another list, and would commend it to the CLWYD list, particularly those listers just starting family history researcher, or anyone who's interested. It's written with Yorkshire in mind, but most of it applies to most of the UK, I think. > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > I'd be interested to hear if anyone on the list has had any success with some of the "Other Sources" mentioned, e.g., MILITIA BALLOT LISTS 1757-1831, MUSTER ROLLS, DEFENCE LISTS 1798 and 1803-04, "OTHER" CENSUSES, HEARTH TAX RETURNS, etc. I don't recall seeing them mentioned on the CLWYD list. Do they even exist for North Wales? > > Best wishes, > > John Wynne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CLWYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger  http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline

Can I just endorse my fellow geneologists' messages of outrage. Outside work, I am a British Red Cross volunteer (& ex-staff member) who is based in Birmingham in the middle of a very ethnic environment with 2 mosques, Hindu & Sikh temples. Buddhist Wats as well as Catholic & C. of E. churches within a stone's throw. Many of our volunteers in the refugee and asylum seekers arena, have come themselves from areas like the Sudan. The shops around are mainly muslim owned and their goods reflect Islam's beliefs, but they welcome me as well as a veiled Muslim woman. However e-mails like that threaten the goodwill and relationships that all of us in the Red Cross, and elsewhere in the wider community, are seeking to promote good relations.Sue Hope > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:34:08 +0000> From: berry.wraight@googlemail.com> To: MAshwell@aol.com> CC: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Fw: Please Forward to all> > Thank you Mark for replying to this so quickly.> > My first reaction was surprise to see the initial e-mail included on this> list which turned to outrage when I read it and was very willing to forward> it. I was therefore extremly glad to hear that it was false!> > Berry> > > On 07/12/2007, MAshwell@aol.com <MAshwell@aol.com> wrote:> >> > I have to point out that the information within this email is false.> >> > The UK government has not removed the holocaust from the national> > curriculum, and has no plans to do so. The holocaust is studied in depth> > in several> > school subjects. Two of my children attend a school in Leicester which> > has a> > large number of Muslim students, and they are all preparing to mark> > National> > Holocaust day on 27th January.> >> > I am sure other "posters" on this mailing list who live in Leicester will> > know a few Muslims - please ask your Muslim friends. I have and not one> > has> > denied the holocaust.> >> > Ironically, I read this email to my teenage daughter, and she now plans> > to> > include in a project as an example of how the spread of mis-information> > could> > inadvertently (or otherwise) encourage persecution of different peoples.> >> > Mark> > Leicester> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe'> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk

TERRY/IRENE. wrote: > Hello list, i am trying to find info on my late mother,her birth > name was PEGGY COULSON born 1931 wigston magna,she married a > JOSEPH HOLMES around 1947 leicester reg office at time she was > living at 6 lewin st cottages which is now st mathews est > leicester,joseph lived same time tournement rd leicester,josephs > parents was WALTER HOLMES mother was GERTRUDE MAY HERBERT, lived > coventry st,any info will be greatfully recived,JOSEPH HOLMES is > the one who i am interested in If you have a look on www.familyrelatives.com or www.findmypast.com or www.ancestry.co.uk you will be able to find your late mother's birth registration and from that be able to order her birth certificate from www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ which will give her parents names. Once you have that information, you'll be able to track back through her parents marriage to their parents and so on.

Hello list, i am trying to find info on my late mother,her birth name was PEGGY COULSON born 1931 wigston magna,she married a JOSEPH HOLMES around 1947 leicester reg office at time she was living at 6 lewin st cottages which is now st mathews est leicester,joseph lived same time tournement rd leicester,josephs parents was WALTER HOLMES mother was GERTRUDE MAY HERBERT, lived coventry st,any info will be greatfully recived,JOSEPH HOLMES is the one who i am interested in terry holmes. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

I found this rather helpful site today http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.denny/papercds/home.htm I hope its helpful to some of you too. Sandra

Many thanks for this, Sandra. Peter Peter B Freshwater MA MCLIP FSAScot Edinburgh, Scotland peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk Researching BRUCE, FOLWELL, FOX, FRESHWATER, PERKINS, SWINGLER (Beds, Leics, Northants) HAUGHAN, JOHNSTONE, RICHARDSON (Annandale, Cumberland, Durham) DOW, FINDLAY, GRAY, JACK(SON), KENNEDY (Angus, Glasgow, Perth) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Lewis" <slewi4@optusnet.com.au> To: <LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:30 AM Subject: [LEI] 1861 and 1871 Census index for South West Leicestershire > I found this rather helpful site today > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.denny/papercds/home.htm > > I hope its helpful to some of you too. > > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message