Nivard is this available through our UK libraries as well. Rgds Mike

Hi Joan TOWN HALL, YESTERDAY . Leicester Chronicle and the Leicestershire Mercury (Leicester, England), Saturday, April 01, 1871; pg. 8. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II. Ezra DUVAL charged with assaulting his wife on the 26th ult, was fined 21s, or 14 days The 1871 being taken the 2nd of April 1881 it seems he did not pay the fine but took the 14 days instead As an Australian resident you can gain access to the 19th Century Newspapers which includes a good run of the Leicester Courier & Leicester Mercury by joining your National Library of Australia (you can do it online), armed with the member number you can use their facilities from home 24/7 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Can any kind person help on information about Ezra Duval born 1848 at Leicester? > > He married Elizabeth Vann b. 1852 in 1869 in Leicester, they had a daughter Clara in 1871 and at > this time he is found on the 1871 Census in Borough Gaol, High Cross St., St. Martin, Leicester. I > would like to find out what he was imprisoned for. > > Thankyou, regards Joan (Adelaide South Australia)

you should likely go to archives.org search Leicester there is a 1705 marriage in Ashby in Leicester marriage licences also look at records of borough of Leicester three books if same name, they spell it CHETTELL most of time jim On 19-Oct-11, at 9:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi, > After a very long time I am back on the trail of my long lost > relatives........Would like to hear from anyone who maybe searching > the same family by the name of CHEATLE. Most of them came from > Ashby de la Zouch area..... > Look forward to hearing from anyone with any info. > Bedge > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

They are at: Piece: 594 Book: 28 Folio: 39 Page Number: 16 in Borough Well (now called Borrowell) Kegworth, Leics with 7 children all with non-rounded ages (it was quite common for some not to follow the rounding rules) BUT Joseph has age 75 which is almost certainly an error - perhaps 57 mistranscribed. People made transcription errors at the time and weren't always good at arithmetic. Joseph was a framework knitter in 1841 and 1851 censuses. 1851 census has people compatible with the 1841 census. There were several chapels in Kegworth - quite a centre for non conformism. The children were baptised at St. Andrew's, the parish church (Church of England). Being buried or married at the parish church doesn't prove they did not go to chapels. But it looks likely that the family was most of the time C of E. On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:41:26 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am seeking the 1841 Census for Joseph & Ann Moore from Kegworth. Joseph >was born about 1783 and Ann about 1788. If someone could send me an image >that would be great. Thank you. >Mary Beth > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message regards, Trevor Simpson in Nottinghamshire, Great Britain. Our Web site is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~simpsont/ Interests, all in GB in UK in EU and The Commonwealth: ASTELL, BOWLER, CATER, CLEMENTS, CLEMENTSON, CORBETT, CROXALL, HARRISON, HOGG,JAQUES, LOCKTON, MANDER, MAYCOCK, MEEKLAH, MILWARD, MOORE, NOBLE, RAWBONE, SANDERS, SIMPSON, TRIVETT, TRUEMAN, WALLIS, WASHBROOK, WOOD mainly in Mercia: Derbys, Leics, Notts, Oxon, Staffs, Warks & Worcs BARTON, DYE, KEDGLEY, PANNELL, RATCLIFF, SKAE in London, Middx, Surrey & Kent

Hi Mary Beth, could this be your family? - only Joseph with a wife of Ann, on the 1841 Census ages were rounded up and down, hope this helps, In an hour I am going away for 12 days so cannot help any further, happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia Person: MOORE, Joseph Address: Moores, Aston Flamville, Burbage <CensusPersonSearchResultServlet?censusYear=1841.htm>census search results 1841 address search <CensusPersonStartSearchServlet?mode=R&censusYear=1841.htm>redefine current search Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image ---------- MOORE, Joseph M 55 1786 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW MOORE, Ann F 50 1791 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW MOORE, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW MOORE, John M 15 1826 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW MOORE, Charles M 14 1827 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW MOORE, Thomas M 13 1828 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW MOORE, Mary F 5 1836 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW HURST, William M 20 1821 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW MELOWS, Mary F 15 1826 Leicestershire <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW ---------- Piece: 600 Book/Folio: 2/36 Page: 1 Registration District: Hinckley Civil Parish: Aston Flamville Municipal Borough: Address: Moores, Aston Flamville, Burbage County: Leicestershire At 04:41 PM 19/10/2011 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am seeking the 1841 Census for Joseph & Ann Moore from Kegworth. Joseph >was born about 1783 and Ann about 1788. If someone could send me an image >that would be great. Thank you. >Mary Beth > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Elizabeth, Thank you for your offer of Parish Registers at Ashby info. I would appreciate if you would let me have this info. As I said I am coming back after a long time to try my luck again! Look forward to hearing from you Regards, Bedge -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kipp <[email protected]> To: leicestershire-plus <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 4:21 Subject: Re: [LEI] cheatle I do have the information in the Parish Registers at Ashby de la Zouch from the late 1700s into the early 1800s. If interested let me know. Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp, BA, PLCGS BLAKE-one-name-study Guild of one-name studies #4600 Webpage: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/ Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:15:30 PM Subject: [LEI] cheatle Hi, After a very long time I am back on the trail of my long lost relatives........Would like to hear from anyone who maybe searching the same family by the name of CHEATLE. Most of them came from Ashby de la Zouch area..... Look forward to hearing from anyone with any info. Bedge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Annette Ages in 1841 were rounded down (not up) as per the enumerators instructions Write the age of every person under 15 years of age as it is stated to you. For persons aged 15 years and upwards, write the lowest of the term of 5 years within which the age is. Thus - for Persons aged 15 years and under 20 write 15 20 years and under 25 write 20 25 years and under 30 write 25 30 years and under 35 write 30 35 years and under 40 write 35 40 years and under 45 write 40 45 years and under 50 write 45 50 years and under 55 write 50 55 years and under 60 write 55 60 years and under 65 write 60 65 years and under 70 write 65 70 years and under 75 write 70 and so on up to the greatest ages. Some enumerators either forgot or chose to ignore the instructions but its normally obvious from the varied ages Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Hi Mary Beth, could this be your family? - only Joseph with a wife of Ann, > on the 1841 Census ages were rounded up and down, hope this helps, > > In an hour I am going away for 12 days so cannot help any further, > > happy hunting > Annette WATSON > Lismore > Australia > > > Person: MOORE, Joseph > Address: Moores, Aston Flamville, Burbage

Bedge A touch of serendipity for me here since I have just discovered I am descended from a Mary Cheatle who married David Leevers in Castle Donington 6 July 1776. The information is off the IGI but I cannot as yet get to see the parish register which might say where Mary came from (does anyone have access to the PR and can tell me what the entry says?). Have you come across a Mary Cheatle presumably born early 1750s? Richard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] cheatle Hi, After a very long time I am back on the trail of my long lost relatives........Would like to hear from anyone who maybe searching the same family by the name of CHEATLE. Most of them came from Ashby de la Zouch area..... Look forward to hearing from anyone with any info. Bedge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do have the information in the Parish Registers at Ashby de la Zouch from the late 1700s into the early 1800s. If interested let me know.   Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp, BA, PLCGS BLAKE-one-name-study Guild of one-name studies #4600 Webpage: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/ Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:15:30 PM Subject: [LEI] cheatle Hi, After a very long time I am back on the trail of my long lost relatives........Would like to hear from anyone who maybe searching the same family by the name of CHEATLE.  Most of them came from Ashby de la Zouch area..... Look forward to hearing from anyone with any info. Bedge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Annette, Thank you for your help, but that's not them, wrong children. I did find them. Kindly, Mary Beth On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Annette Watson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mary Beth, could this be your family? - only Joseph with a wife of Ann, > on the 1841 Census ages were rounded up and down, hope this helps, > > In an hour I am going away for 12 days so cannot help any further, > > happy hunting > Annette WATSON > Lismore > Australia > > > Person: MOORE, Joseph > Address: Moores, Aston Flamville, Burbage > > <CensusPersonSearchResultServlet?censusYear=1841.htm>census search > results 1841 address search > <CensusPersonStartSearchServlet?mode=R&censusYear=1841.htm>redefine current > search > Name Sex Age Birth > Year Occupation Where Born Original > census > image > > ---------- > MOORE, Joseph M 55 1786 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > MOORE, Ann F 50 1791 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > MOORE, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > MOORE, John M 15 1826 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > MOORE, Charles M 14 1827 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > MOORE, Thomas M 13 1828 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > MOORE, Mary F 5 1836 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > HURST, William M 20 1821 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > MELOWS, Mary F 15 1826 Leicestershire > > <javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('f2c8ad737ecc0cbcf0aa44a0cb27482b&censusYear=1841','a2402aa73c80c9e67c9f2fc20c9ecb8f4c474211111794ce301125d4ff5f99699ab00bad84ce37d5','1841 > Census MOORE, JosephHINCKLEY, LeicestershireHO107 piece 600 folio 2/36 page > 1 ', 'N','H',6196106,4,0,0)>VIEW > > ---------- > Piece: > 600 Book/Folio: > 2/36 Page: > 1 Registration District: > Hinckley > > Civil Parish: > Aston Flamville Municipal Borough: > Address: > Moores, Aston Flamville, Burbage County: > Leicestershire > At 04:41 PM 19/10/2011 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I am seeking the 1841 Census for Joseph & Ann Moore from Kegworth. Joseph > >was born about 1783 and Ann about 1788. If someone could send me an image > >that would be great. Thank you. > >Mary Beth > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oh yes, Cheatle is also one of mine. Sarah Cheatle was born at Ashby de la Zouch in 1795 according to the census and indeed there is a Sarah Cheatle baptized there 27 Jan 1795 at Ashby de la Zouch daughter of William and Sarah Cheatle. She died 26 Jul 1872 at Aston, Warwickshire having married William Welch 24 Aug 1818 at Longdon by Lichfield, Staffordshire. Never more than one piece of data in one country :) The marriage reigstration has witness William Cheatle but this is too early for the parents to be named although some priests did but not this one. I suspect that my line is William Cheatle and Sarah Woodcock who married 23 Feb 1773 at Castle Donington. They baptized five older children at Castle Donington and may have buried one of them as a teenager at Ashby de la Zouch as there is a burial there preceding the birth of Sarah but the priest did not record parent's names for the most part. This was the only child that they baptized at Ashby de la Zouch as I have gone through the registers quite thoroughly. There is a large Cheatle family at Ashby de la Zouch. Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp, BA, PLCGS BLAKE-one-name-study Guild of one-name studies #4600 Webpage: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/ Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kendell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] cheatle > Bedge > A touch of serendipity for me here since I have just discovered I am > descended from a Mary Cheatle who married David Leevers in Castle > Donington > 6 July 1776. The information is off the IGI but I cannot as yet get to see > the parish register which might say where Mary came from (does anyone have > access to the PR and can tell me what the entry says?). Have you come > across > a Mary Cheatle presumably born early 1750s?

Hello, I am seeking the 1841 Census for Joseph & Ann Moore from Kegworth. Joseph was born about 1783 and Ann about 1788. If someone could send me an image that would be great. Thank you. Mary Beth

Hi, After a very long time I am back on the trail of my long lost relatives........Would like to hear from anyone who maybe searching the same family by the name of CHEATLE. Most of them came from Ashby de la Zouch area..... Look forward to hearing from anyone with any info. Bedge

Hi Listers , Many thanks to both Nivard and Bill for their help much appreciated Olwyn

Hi Listers I am looking for a marriage c1851 in Madley shrops I beleave (I am not on the Shrops goup sorry ) but can't find a female with the name Ellen at all any idears what else this could stand for? Many thanks Olwyn

Hi again Your BODIN is I suspect *BODEN* (1861 census ?) Try Marriages Sep 1857 Boden Edward Wellington Sh. 6a 1138 Hazledine Ellen Wellington Sh. 6a 1138 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Listers > I am looking for a marriage c1851 in Madley shrops I beleave (I am not on the Shrops goup sorry ) > but can't find a female with the name Ellen at all any idears what else this could stand for? > Many thanks > Olwyn

Hi Olwyn Its Madeley near Telford rather than Madley However there are no marriages in Shropshire for an Edward BODIN at any time Neither are there are obvious Edward BODIN with a wife Ellen in the census Where are you finding the information , if a census page can you give the page reference as it makes it much easier to check Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Listers > I am looking for a marriage c1851 in Madley shrops I beleave (I am not on the Shrops goup sorry ) > but can't find a female with the name Ellen at all any idears what else this could stand for? > Many thanks > Olwyn

Hi, Does anyone connect to, or have information on Nutt or Stangar Stanger in Leics or Rutland. I have a William Thomas Nutt born Edith Weston Rutland about 1812. and wife Adelaide born Edith Weston abt 1810/1811 On the 1851 census Edith Weston was William T Nutt head marr 39 plumber b. EW Adelaide wife marr 41 born EW William son 12 scholar born EW George James son 12 scholar born EW Ann Stangar mother widow 74 formerly a farmers wife born Liddington Rutland ........................................................................................ Is Ann the mother of William or Adelaide. Can anyone offer any information or help Many thanks Regards Ken Stanger Aust

I am trying to find the address in Crescent Road, Hugglescote where my Grandfather George Sherwin Page and his second wife Gertrude Underwood lived during the 1930/40/50's A Page descendent is visiting the area from the USA and a number would help. Yes I have looked in Google Earth but cannot recognise the house which I visited in my youth quite often. Much thanks for any help. Mike Page Victor Harbor Australia

Hallo Nivard, Many thanks for your reply - at least it proves my message got through and the list is just quiet. I'll keep an eye out in case anyone is going to the RO and check the original for me. Thanks for all the other info. I;'ll make a note of it all and have a look. Regards from a very wet Orkney Suzie -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] John Coleman marriage 1834 Hi Suzie As you may know Leicestershire records are a little thin on the ground compared to other Counties which may explain why there were no replies to your first post (plus the lists have been extremely quiet) Looking at the 1851 census it shows John COLEMAN with wife Elizabeth, there is an obvious HOLT link as there is a Maria HOLT with two children, it records her as a Widow (a recent one as she has a 1 month old child) both she and Elizabeth are enumerated as born Thurlaston, unfortunately no relationship is given So if she told the truth and she was a widow, you could surmise that the Elizabeth (if she is the same one) would have been born something other than a HOLT (if Maria became a HOLT on marriage) But if Maria was an unmarried mother and just hiding her status it would fit in with both of them being HOLTs As it happens a search of the IGI finds Maria Holt England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Leicester,​ England parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah name: Maria Holt gender: Female baptism/christening date: 11 Jan 1823 baptism/christening place: THURLASTON,LEICESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Thomas Holt mother's name: Hannah indexing project (batch) number: C05886-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 594971 Elizabeth Holt England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Leicester,​ England parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah name: Elizabeth Holt gender: Female baptism/christening date: 07 Jul 1805 baptism/christening place: THURLASTON,LEICESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Thomas Holt mother's name: Hannah indexing project (batch) number: C05886-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 594971 Plus to the same parents Maria Holt parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah Elizabeth Holt parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah John Holt death: 02 Sep 1811 parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah William Holt parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah Sarah Holt parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah Ann Holt parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah Ann Holt parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah James Holt death: 17 Feb 1828 parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah Joseph Holt death: 04 Mar 1828 parents: Thomas Holt,​ Hannah As the marriage is from an extraction JOHN COLEMAN Spouse: ELIZABETH HOLT Marriage: 18 NOV 1834 Saint Margaret, Leicester, Leicester, England M034611 1754 - 1837 0596718 Film 1238714 Film You could order a copy from the LDS or any of the childrens birth certs should also give you the information but I understand why you would be reluctant to do that Hope someone has the record you seek Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Am sending this message again as it didn't seem to get through first time. > Is the list just quiet at the moment? > ------------------------------------------------- > John COLEMAN is seen on the 1841 and the 1851 as married to Elizabeth, > possibly nee HOLT). The 1851 gives the clue that her surname could have > been HOLT. (HO107/2079/396/19). > > I have scant brief info of a marriage dated 18 Nov 1834 at St Margaret’s > Leicester. I suspect this is the right marriage but I really need to know > if > Elizabeth was a spinster or a widow? > > Does anyone have access to the appropriate PRs and could help? I live in > Orkney and no way of getting hold of English records. > Could anyone check this out for me? > Kind regards > Suzie (from Orkney) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message