Dear Nivard, Checking on old e-mails. I don't know if you and the others solved your query. I'm from Kirby Muxloe and can tell you that there are photographs in Kirby Free church (rebuilt after the bombing and re-opened 1953), including one which was savoured for obvious reasons. The building all collapsed (except the end wall), but the wayside pulpit remained intact infront of the rubble with the message it had prior to the bombing unscathed: "A sense of humour is a good defence against all knocks"! Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] The Bombing of Kirby Muxloe, 1940 > Hi Mike > > Its a bit late to find the perpetrators you know :-) > > They will deny it anyway <g> > > Apart from the village history compiled some years ago I have not come > across anything else on the event > > Nothing reported in the Times as far as I can see > > Has anyone tried the Mercury ? > > Sadly all those who might have known something have now shuffled off :-( > > Are there any RUSSELLs left in Kirby? > > One of the RUSSELLs was an ARP Warden I believe > > I think the Free Church met its end on that night, might there be any > record > there ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Hi All, >> >> Is there anyone out there who was in or around the Leicestershire village >> of >> Kirby Muxloe in 1940 and who remembers the night the bombs fell ? The >> Kirby >> Muxloe Local History Group is compiling a dossier on the event, when >> Kirby >> was described as "the most bombed village in England". >> >> Also, can anyone suggest any German contacts who may be able to shed >> light >> on the events of that evening ? >> >> Mike Gould >> Kirby Muxloe Local History Group Committee > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking for confirmation of a marriage found on the IGI between John COLEMAN and Elizabeth HOLT on 18 Nov 1834 at St Margaret’s Leicester. I need to know if Elizabeth was a spinster or a widow. Does anyone have access to the PRs and could tell me this? That would be immensely helpful. Suzie (from Orkney)

Dear all I have two photos and was not sure if anyone had a connection to those in them They all attended Ratcliffe College in 1929-30 Class or Group Photo Circa 1930 Ratcliffe College In my fathers handwriting on the back of photo Steve JONES ????? O'BRIEN Leo MCREAVY ?? McMullery Joe BIRKBECK Terry HOGAN Jake RUSSELL Maurice CAREY Tony LITTLE Ted FOLEY Philip MORRIS D?? DONOVAN First XV (Rugby) Ratcliffe College 1929-30 Back Row E.J.FOLEY J.C.DOUGHTY J.C.M.BRADSHAW G.B.THORLEY H.M.A.OVINGTON P.G.MORRIS T.M.HOGAN L.P.MCREAVY Seated R.J.FOLEY C.H.O'BRIEN T.LITTLE (Capt) F.M.CAREY B.A.HIGGINS On Ground B.A.McMULLIN W.B.ROOME Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Michael, Is it possible that Richard ROYCE is the father of Frederick, I have checked the 1841 census and found John & Mary - John being born abt 1811, a son Richard 7 born 1834 and another son John is 5 born 1836 also two daughters Mary and Ann. A quick search of 1851 - cannot find them - maybe mistranscribed. Sorry I cannot help with the baptisms, but, if you check www.familysearch.org there is a baptism for a Richard ROYCE 30 Mar 1834 in Buckminster, Leic - parents John & Mary. Happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia At 09:54 AM 4/01/2012, you wrote: >This would probably be easy if I were a millionaire to buy all the >registrations of missing twigs on my wife's family tree!! I'm not!! > >I have found Frederick William ROYCE in every census after his birth >in 1864, what I want to know is "Who are his parents?". > >According to the 1871 census he was born in Sewstern, Leics but was >living as a grandson with John & Mary ROYCE in the White Horse Inn, >High St., Colsterworth, Lincs. In 1881 he was a groom for the >HEAVENS in the High St., Colsterworth; thereafter in the police in Middlesex. > >I wondered if anyone has access to Sewstern baptisms about that time >that could help. > >Thanks > >Mike > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello from New Zealand   I wondered if anyone has access to PRs for Buckminster please?   At this point I am looking for the death of John ROYCE b c 1819, the son of Francis & Mary.   Thanks for any help. Mike

Hello & Happy New Year to all on the list, I recently bought FTM 2012. It is the first genealogy software that I have had, (so not an upgrade from an earlier version). I installed it onto my desktop, and the following day it had such a meltdown that it won't boot up - this is probably just co-incidence as computer was 9 yrs old and was running on XP with office 2003. I then installed it onto my netbook. I found that I had to adjust my screen resolution to get the bottom of the pages, but other than that it has been working well - until today. Its now very slow. I think that it may be due to the size of the file (1018 people and about 100 or so have at least some media attached). Some people also have complicated relationships (e.g. siblings from one family marrying siblings from another, first cousins marrying, and a woman whose second marriage was to her first husband's first wife's nephew) which may be using more memory than standard relationships. The other possibility is that the speed is due to it being on a netbook which has less memory than a desktop or laptop. Has anyone else experienced this slowness? Is the solution to divide the tree into branches? I have tried the help files but couldn't find instructions for this. Is there a maximum size/number of people per tree? I'm hoping someone can offer some advice/instructions to get back to the right speed. Thanks Sandra

This would probably be easy if I were a millionaire to buy all the registrations of missing twigs on my wife's family tree!! I'm not!! I have found Frederick William ROYCE in every census after his birth in 1864, what I want to know is "Who are his parents?". According to the 1871 census he was born in Sewstern, Leics but was living as a grandson with John & Mary ROYCE in the White Horse Inn, High St., Colsterworth, Lincs. In 1881 he was a groom for the HEAVENS in the High St., Colsterworth; thereafter in the police in Middlesex. I wondered if anyone has access to Sewstern baptisms about that time that could help. Thanks Mike

Hi Patricia If you are in need of a look up there are many people on the lists who may be able to help you, just ask Another alternative would be to visit your library and you will find they have the Ancestry Library Edition which is the worldwide subscription, this is accessed in the library on their computers, systems vary but you normally get 30 minutes or so free but you may get more if there is no-one waiting to use the computer There are also a range of other things you can access via your library service, most from home 24/7 See http://www.somerset.gov.uk/irj/public/services/directory/service?rid=/guid/10555cfa-0837-2c10-bfa7-f6c529e23494 Then there is the LDS centers , there may be one near enough to visit on occasion and who will have Ancestry and often Findmypast, you can also order in films of the census or Parish Registers etc Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS It was probably just an oversight but you have posted the entire digest back to the list, you need to copy the subject line of your post into your reply and delete all the other messages, leaving enough of yours to keep it in context Thankyou for the info Nivard. I didn't find them on the census because I don't pay to view on line and as I live in Somerset I cannot get to the Leicestershire Records Office. Regards Patricia

Thankyou for the info Nivard. I didn't find them on the census because I don't pay to view on line and as I live in Somerset I cannot get to the Leicestershire Records Office. Regards Patricia --- On Wed, 4/1/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 4 January, 2012, 8:00 IMPORTANT!  When replying to one of the messages below, DO NOT hit "Reply" and add your comments.  (It won't work!)  Copy+paste only the relevant bit into a new email, or SNIP everything that isn't relevant.  In either case, remember to make sure that your subject line is relevant to your posting! Today's Topics:    1.  Chapman Surname (Patricia Philp)    2. Re:  Chapman Surname (N Ovington)    3. Re:  Family tree maker for Mac (Marilyn Ralph)    4.  Frederick William ROYCE (Michael Wells)    5.  Family tree maker 2012 on Netbook ([email protected])    6.  John ROYCE (Michael Wells) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 08:44:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Patricia Philp <[email protected]> Subject: [LEI] Chapman Surname To: [email protected] Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello everybody, I am re-posting my family interest in the hope somebody may have a connection. My Grandmother was ELIZA ALICE CHAPMAN bAug 18th 1870 MELTON MOWBRAY. Eliza's mother was HANNAH CHAPMAN b1849 MELTON MOWBRAY. Hannah's parents were WILLIAM CHAPMAN and ELIZABETH BILSON, birthplaces unknown. Regards Patricia ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 08:58:15 +0000 From: N Ovington <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LEI] Chapman Surname To: [email protected] Message-ID:     <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Patricia Have you not found them in the 1851 census which shows her parents birthplaces ? 1851 England Census about Hannah Chapman Name: Hannah Chapman Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Chapman Mother's name: Elizabeth Chapman Gender: F (Female) Where born: Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Melton Mowbray Town: Melton Mowbray County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Melton Mowbray Sub-registration district: Somerby ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Piece: 2091 Folio: 265 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age William Chapman 42                Mountsorrel Leicestershire Elizabeth Chapman 37              Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire William Chapman 17                 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Henry Chapman 15                    Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Francis Chapman 13                    Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Thomas Chapman 11                Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Mary Ann Chapman 10               Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Robert Chapman 8                    Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Amos Chapman 6                      Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Sarah Chapman 4                    Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Hannah Chapman 1                   Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire HO107; Piece: 2091; Folio: 265; Page: 37; GSU roll: 87719. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Patricia Philp <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello everybody, > I am re-posting my family interest in the hope somebody may have a connection. > My Grandmother was ELIZA ALICE CHAPMAN bAug 18th 1870 MELTON MOWBRAY. > Eliza's mother was HANNAH CHAPMAN b1849 MELTON MOWBRAY. > Hannah's parents were WILLIAM CHAPMAN and ELIZABETH BILSON, birthplaces unknown. > Regards > Patricia ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:57:27 -0800 From: Marilyn Ralph <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LEI] Family tree maker for Mac To: "[email protected]"     <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]"     <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii A big thank you to all who replied to my inquiry about using Family Tree Maker on my new Mac.  Your help is much appreciated. Marilyn Oregon, USA Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:54:46 +1300 (NZDT) From: Michael Wells <[email protected]> Subject: [LEI] Frederick William ROYCE To: "[email protected]"     <[email protected]> Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This would probably be easy if I were a millionaire to buy all the registrations of missing twigs on my wife's family tree!! I'm not!! I have found Frederick William ROYCE in every census after his birth in 1864, what I want to know is "Who are his parents?". According to the 1871 census he was born in Sewstern, Leics but was living as a grandson with John & Mary ROYCE in the White Horse Inn, High St., Colsterworth, Lincs. In 1881 he was a groom for the HEAVENS in the High St., Colsterworth; thereafter in the police in Middlesex. I wondered if anyone has access to Sewstern baptisms about that time that could help. Thanks Mike ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:03:16 +1100 From: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] Family tree maker 2012 on Netbook To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain Hello & Happy New Year to all on the list, I recently bought FTM 2012. It is the first genealogy software that I have had, (so not an upgrade from an earlier version). I installed it onto my desktop, and the following day it had such a meltdown that it won't boot up - this is probably just co-incidence as computer was 9 yrs old and was running on XP with office 2003. I then installed it onto my netbook. I found that I had to adjust my screen resolution to get the bottom of the pages, but other than that it has been working well - until today. Its now very slow. I think that it may be due to the size of the file (1018 people and about 100 or so have at least some media attached). Some people also have complicated relationships (e.g. siblings from one family marrying siblings from another, first cousins marrying, and a woman whose second marriage was to her first husband's first wife's nephew) which may be using more memory than standard relationships. The other possibility is that the speed is due to it being on a netbook which has less memory than a desktop or laptop. Has anyone else experienced this slowness? Is the solution to divide the tree into branches? I have tried the help files but couldn't find instructions for this. Is there a maximum size/number of people per tree? I'm hoping someone can offer some advice/instructions to get back to the right speed. Thanks Sandra ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:24:40 +1300 (NZDT) From: Michael Wells <[email protected]> Subject: [LEI] John ROYCE To: "[email protected]"     <[email protected]> Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello from New Zealand ? I wondered if anyone has access to PRs for Buckminster please? ? At this point?I am looking for the death of John ROYCE b c 1819, the son of Francis & Mary. ? Thanks for any help. 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A big thank you to all who replied to my inquiry about using Family Tree Maker on my new Mac. Your help is much appreciated. Marilyn Oregon, USA Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just like to wish everyone on the Leicestershire list a very happy and fruitful New Year. Harvey Bates Adelaide, Sth. Australia where we have just endured the hottest New Years Day in some years. Our top temperature reached 43.5 Centigrade, that's somewhere around the old 107 F.

Hi Patricia Have you not found them in the 1851 census which shows her parents birthplaces ? 1851 England Census about Hannah Chapman Name: Hannah Chapman Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Chapman Mother's name: Elizabeth Chapman Gender: F (Female) Where born: Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Melton Mowbray Town: Melton Mowbray County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Melton Mowbray Sub-registration district: Somerby ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Piece: 2091 Folio: 265 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age William Chapman 42 Mountsorrel Leicestershire Elizabeth Chapman 37 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire William Chapman 17 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Henry Chapman 15 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Francis Chapman 13 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Thomas Chapman 11 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Mary Ann Chapman 10 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Robert Chapman 8 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Amos Chapman 6 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Sarah Chapman 4 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Hannah Chapman 1 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire HO107; Piece: 2091; Folio: 265; Page: 37; GSU roll: 87719. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Patricia Philp <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello everybody, > I am re-posting my family interest in the hope somebody may have a connection. > My Grandmother was ELIZA ALICE CHAPMAN bAug 18th 1870 MELTON MOWBRAY. > Eliza's mother was HANNAH CHAPMAN b1849 MELTON MOWBRAY. > Hannah's parents were WILLIAM CHAPMAN and ELIZABETH BILSON, birthplaces unknown. > Regards > Patricia

Hello everybody, I am re-posting my family interest in the hope somebody may have a connection. My Grandmother was ELIZA ALICE CHAPMAN bAug 18th 1870 MELTON MOWBRAY. Eliza's mother was HANNAH CHAPMAN b1849 MELTON MOWBRAY. Hannah's parents were WILLIAM CHAPMAN and ELIZABETH BILSON, birthplaces unknown. Regards Patricia

Hello Jeanette I have recently installed FTM for Mac and have played around with the import of data from TMG via gedcom. I cannot give much advice as I am only new to FTM but I have already placed my order for FTM for Mac 2. Regards Malcolm K Perrins Sydney Australia [email protected] On 31/12/2011, at 11:15 AM, Jeanette Brentnall wrote: > My reply was in response to this request: > > Hello List > > I am getting a Mac computer and if anyone out there uses FTM for the Mac I would be interested to know if you are happy with its performance. Thank you for your help. > > Marilyn in Oregon USA > > > > > Happy New Year to all. > > Jeanette > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi in a hundred years from now family researches will love your description of life at the Yuletide. and I guess the problems we have with technology;-Well Happy New Year from a sunshine and blue skies Athens;. bit parky though only 10 c l Terry > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:34:11 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] email address > > > Good morning on a dull, wet & dismal New Year's day in Bradford > > Happy New Year to you. > I can still be contacted on this e-mail address, which I use for Family Tree research & correspondence, but after the 'hacking' I set up a new e-mail address for personal use - [email protected] > > I see that Jim Goodwin has already sent the BT e-mail address to you & to everyone else on Leicestershire-plus........... > > I hope you had a good Christmas with family & friends. I spent Christmas Day with my daughter Carolyn, her boys & their girlfriends. Robert, who now lives in Southampton had travelled up on Christmas Eve. Lovely to see him again. > Boxing Day was an 'open house' at my daughter's & lots of her friends visited. > One of my Christmas presents this year from my daughter was to see The Nutcracker Ballet. > It made a lovely start to the Christmas period. So Imagine my surprise when I opened an envelope from my son Jonathan which contained tickets for the premier of the new ballet 'Beauty & the Beast' by David Nixon for the 30 December. Carolyn & I had a raptuous evening watching the outstandingly beautiful & clever choreography. The final dance to Saint-Saens Organ Symphony left us all wowed. I guess by now that you realise that I do love ballet. It is many years since I wore my 'blocks' but I can still dance along with the dancers in my mind's eye. > > We are very fortunate here in Yorkshire as we have one of the UK's top ballet groups - The Northern Ballet Company, & Carolyn & I do treat ourselves two or three times a year. Many of the musicals come here from London also. We have the choice of two excellent theatres both completely refurbished & modernised, the Allambra in Bradford & the Grand in Leeds. > > Well, I have made a New Year resolution to lose some weight & to try & exercise more, as we do. Must make a concerted effort this time though. > > I am still slogging away at the Family Trees & working on finding those missing people like first wives with no names etc... Now I am a world-wide member of Ancestry, I am finding a lot of information to add to my data base I have not published any of my trees on Ancestry as I can see that many have copied from each other, including obvious errors. > > So, here we are at the beginning of another year, full of hope for the future. Let's hope it is a good one. > > All the best for 2012 > > Warmest regards > > June > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/1/12, Yvonne Peberdy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Yvonne Peberdy <[email protected]> > Subject: [LEI] email address > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 1 January, 2012, 0:18 > > > Hello List > > I have lost the latest email address for June Fleetwood of Bradford in England so June if you read this post can you contact me with your current email please. > > Yvonne Peberdy > Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that Terry.   It has made me feel a little less of an idiot.   Hope the weather imrpoves for you. June --- On Sun, 1/1/12, TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY <[email protected]> wrote: From: TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LEI] email address To: "leic list" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, 1 January, 2012, 12:57 Hi in a hundred years from now family researches will love  your description of life at the Yuletide. and I guess the problems we have with technology;-Well Happy New Year  from a sunshine and blue skies Athens;. bit parky though only 10 c l Terry > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:34:11 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] email address > > > Good morning on a dull, wet & dismal New Year's day in Bradford >  > Happy New Year to you. > I can still be contacted on this e-mail address, which I use for Family Tree research & correspondence, but after the 'hacking' I set up a new e-mail address for personal use - [email protected] >  > I see that Jim Goodwin has already sent the BT e-mail address to you & to everyone else on Leicestershire-plus........... >  > I hope you had a good Christmas with family & friends.   I spent Christmas Day with my daughter Carolyn, her boys & their girlfriends.   Robert, who now lives in Southampton had travelled up on Christmas Eve.   Lovely to see him again. > Boxing Day was an 'open house' at my daughter's & lots of her friends visited. > One of my Christmas presents this year from my daughter was to see The Nutcracker Ballet. > It made a lovely start to the Christmas period.   So Imagine my surprise when I opened an envelope from my son Jonathan which contained tickets for the premier of the new ballet 'Beauty & the Beast' by David Nixon for the 30 December.   Carolyn & I had a raptuous evening watching the outstandingly beautiful & clever choreography.   The final dance to Saint-Saens Organ Symphony left us all wowed.   I guess by now that you realise that I do love ballet.   It is many years since I wore my 'blocks' but I can still dance along with the dancers in my mind's eye. >  > We are very fortunate here in Yorkshire as we have one of the UK's top ballet groups - The Northern Ballet Company, & Carolyn & I do treat ourselves two or three times a year.   Many of the musicals come here from London also.   We have the choice of two excellent theatres both completely refurbished & modernised, the Allambra in Bradford & the Grand in Leeds. >  > Well, I have made a New Year resolution to lose some weight & to try & exercise more, as we do.    Must make a concerted effort this time though.    >  > I am still slogging away at the Family Trees & working on finding those missing people like first wives with no names etc...    Now I am a world-wide member of Ancestry, I am finding a lot of information to add to my data base     I have not published any of my trees on Ancestry as I can see that many have copied from each other, including obvious errors. >  > So, here we are at the beginning of another year, full of hope for the future.   Let's hope it is a good one.    >  > All the best for 2012 >  > Warmest regards >  > June >  >    >  >  >  > > --- On Sun, 1/1/12, Yvonne Peberdy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Yvonne Peberdy <[email protected]> > Subject: [LEI] email address > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 1 January, 2012, 0:18 > > > Hello List > > I have lost the latest email address for June Fleetwood of Bradford in England so June if you read this post can you contact me with your current email please. > > Yvonne Peberdy > Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning on a dull, wet & dismal New Year's day in Bradford   Happy New Year to you. I can still be contacted on this e-mail address, which I use for Family Tree research & correspondence, but after the 'hacking' I set up a new e-mail address for personal use - [email protected]   I see that Jim Goodwin has already sent the BT e-mail address to you & to everyone else on Leicestershire-plus...........    I hope you had a good Christmas with family & friends.   I spent Christmas Day with my daughter Carolyn, her boys & their girlfriends.   Robert, who now lives in Southampton had travelled up on Christmas Eve.   Lovely to see him again. Boxing Day was an 'open house' at my daughter's & lots of her friends visited. One of my Christmas presents this year from my daughter was to see The Nutcracker Ballet. It made a lovely start to the Christmas period.   So Imagine my surprise when I opened an envelope from my son Jonathan which contained tickets for the premier of the new ballet 'Beauty & the Beast' by David Nixon for the 30 December.   Carolyn & I had a raptuous evening watching the outstandingly beautiful & clever choreography.   The final dance to Saint-Saens Organ Symphony left us all wowed.   I guess by now that you realise that I do love ballet.   It is many years since I wore my 'blocks' but I can still dance along with the dancers in my mind's eye.   We are very fortunate here in Yorkshire as we have one of the UK's top ballet groups - The Northern Ballet Company, & Carolyn & I do treat ourselves two or three times a year.   Many of the musicals come here from London also.   We have the choice of two excellent theatres both completely refurbished & modernised, the Allambra in Bradford & the Grand in Leeds.   Well, I have made a New Year resolution to lose some weight & to try & exercise more, as we do.    Must make a concerted effort this time though.     I am still slogging away at the Family Trees & working on finding those missing people like first wives with no names etc...    Now I am a world-wide member of Ancestry, I am finding a lot of information to add to my data base     I have not published any of my trees on Ancestry as I can see that many have copied from each other, including obvious errors.   So, here we are at the beginning of another year, full of hope for the future.   Let's hope it is a good one.     All the best for 2012   Warmest regards   June            --- On Sun, 1/1/12, Yvonne Peberdy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Yvonne Peberdy <[email protected]> Subject: [LEI] email address To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 1 January, 2012, 0:18 Hello List I have lost the latest email address for June Fleetwood of Bradford in England so June if you read this post can you contact me with your current email please. Yvonne Peberdy Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Could someone one be christened with the > father's surname when their parents weren't > married yet? > Please, this is my dilemma. Absolutely.  It was a time when one's "word" was accepted and no proof of marriage had to be given.  After all, the prevailing belief was:  Who would lie to a clergyman?  And the Church would rather baptise an infant than leave him or her unbaptised. It was also not unheard of for parents to change the baby's name after baptism, either to curry favor with a family member or any other reason.  I have a few of those in my grandmother's generation. I changed my own name at age 18, just before going into college.  It was remarkably easy and quite legal.     Lou

Hello List I have lost the latest email address for June Fleetwood of Bradford in England so June if you read this post can you contact me with your current email please. Yvonne Peberdy Australia

Hi Celia, I had this situation with one of my London families. In a big city they could get away with it by having the baby baptised in one church as if they were married and marrying in another church a few weeks later. If she sported a wedding ring and they both managed not to look shifty, the vicar baptising the baby would have no reason to suspect they were living in sin. You obviously need to go on checking to see if the baby was baptised in another Birmingham church after they married but keep an open mind. These ancestors do dish out the surprises. Lesley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Celia S Summers Dear List Members, Could someone one be christened with the father's surname when their parents weren't married yet? Please, this is my dilemma. John Wills & Ann Hill appeared to have been married 17 Feb 1824 in Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England. Ann was born calculated 1802 in Kirkby Mallory, Leicestershire, according to the 1851 census (residence: Edgbaston, Warwick, England; Source information: HO107/2049, Registration district: Kings Norton, Sub-registration district: Edgbaston, ED: 2e, Folio: 192, Page: 10, Household schedule number: 38) I couldn't find Ann Hill's christening on familysearch, but I did find a Sarah Wills, chr. 28 Dec 1823 in Kirkby Mallory, Leicester, parents: John & Ann Wills. According the New York passenger list (arrival date: 16 Sep 1851, ship: Jersey) they had a daughter Sarah Wills, born calculated 1823 (but she was not with them on the 1841 or 1851 censuses). (The rest of the children were christened in St. Phillips, Birmingham.) If this is indeed their daughter she would have been christened 1 month 20 days before they were married, but I would think she would have the mother's name for a surname. Could the parents have gotten married two different times? Hopefully the answer lies in the Kirkby Mallory Bishop's Transcript. Thank you, Celia