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    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. Hi Nivard I could swear I've heard "Ta" here too, but it could have been other Poms, of course. Haven't heard "Ta-ra a bit", but don't knowingly have any Black Country friends. Plenty of friends from all over the UK as we're the age group who were the "Ten Pound Poms". Re that Who Do You Think You Are Live, it might be worth a look - would it be on the BBC website? - a favourite of John's. He also checks how Leicester City have gone on the web all the time. If it's a broadcast we can listen to on the website what is the time? 10.00 am or pm? Hopefully they'll do what our radio and TV stations do and have it available on the website after the broadcast. I find accents and dialects fascinating. Also enjoy Who Do You Think You Are - watching someone have their family history being done for them! - if only we could all have that advantage! We have your British one, our own one, the American one and, lately, the South African one, although I find the last a bit hard to follow. Certainly there are many in our countries who have refugee and/or Jewish backgrounds and the programmes reveal some of the worst of the war (WWII). A search on the BBC website for Who Do You Think You Are soon got me to the right area but Who Do You Think You Are Live found nothing relevant. Loving this discussion about Old Leicester (we have two books which are great) and dialects. Jan in soggy Nowra, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > Hi Jan > > I wouldn't necessarily say that the use of "Ta" for thank you is > specifically Leicester as many more > use it > > But we found that Leicester people used it far more, and everytime I heard > it in use and asked the > user they turned out to be from Leicestershire > > Ta-ra is far more widespread but Ta-ra a bit is Black Country > > By coincidence a talk at the Who Do You Think You Are Live: caught my eye > > Sunday 26th February > 10:00 "Ey Up Mi Duck!" A History of British accents and dialects - with > John Titford > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> >> Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. >> >> "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool >> people use it all the time. >> >> (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) >> >> And then there's "me duck"! >> >> Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4805 - Release Date: 02/12/12 >

    02/13/2012 05:45:23
    1. [LEI] Okie
    2. Olwyn Sherwin
    3. Hi Listers, seems Okie was a term used in the North Evington area as well for Hokie Pokie icecream so my Husband says along with Me Duck and AYUP for hurry up! Olwyn in the Kaipara NZ

    02/13/2012 05:31:07
    1. Re: [LEI] FREER in Leics (was Ratcliffe College circa 1929-30)
    2. Doreen Welch
    3. Mike Gould I don't seem to have a connection with your Eliza FREER.  Sorry. regards, Doreen ________________________________ From: Peter HOLMES <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] FREER in Leics (was Ratcliffe College circa 1929-30) Mike, Not that I've found yet! Peter Holmes Western Australia.      Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Gould Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2012 5:50 PM To: 'Doreen Welch'; [email protected] Subject: [LEI] FREER in Leics (was Ratcliffe College circa 1929-30) Hi Doreen & Peter, I have an Eliza FREER, born Fleckney 1824, dau of John & Hannah.  She married Jesse QUAIL in Loughborough, 1842.  She died in Nottingham in 1873. Any connections ? Best wishes, Mike Gould ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/13/2012 04:08:30
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Jan I wasn't saying it was only used in Leicestershire, far from it But in everyday use I found that people coming in the shop who did use it were invariably from Leicestershire Like many expressions and with the traveling of peoples around the world they spread widely all over As far as I know Who Do You Think You Are Live is for visitors to it in London, I seem to recall they were going to do some talks online but doubt it would be all that occur at the show I will keep my eye open for any news on that and post back if I come across anything Tell John "up the City" <vbg> It was a good win on Saturday :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > I could swear I've heard "Ta" here too, but it could have been other Poms, > of course. Haven't heard "Ta-ra a bit", but don't knowingly have any Black > Country friends. Plenty of friends from all over the UK as we're the age > group who were the "Ten Pound Poms". > > Re that Who Do You Think You Are Live, it might be worth a look - would it > be on the BBC website? - a favourite of John's. He also checks how Leicester > City have gone on the web all the time. If it's a broadcast we can listen to > on the website what is the time? 10.00 am or pm? Hopefully they'll do what > our radio and TV stations do and have it available on the website after the > broadcast.

    02/13/2012 03:51:11
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. Hi Gill Don't think I knew you, unless you were at Humberstone School in a class near mine and you've most likely changed your surname by marriage, as I have. I lived on Cardinals Walk, opposite direction to Gipsy Lane, and went to Collegiate school after Humberstone. Interesting you knew the word "okie" as it was never used in my area, where the ice cream van came regularly in summer and we kids queued up and bought ourselves one. Not sure where you mean when you say you lived "up new parks", unless you mean New Parks Estate, which I heard of but never really knew where it was! Re the swimming, we did it much too late, ie. started at age 13. By working hard by myself at Spence St pool in the evenings I managed to learn to swim but there were a couple of girls who never did. Now, I know, even in England children are taken to swimming lessons at school much earlier, as they are here. I was very surprised on arrival here in 1965, though, to find that a lot of Australians couldn't swim then - not all beach goers! We made sure our children learned while young and our grandchildren are real water babies! When they visit us here in the retirement village they have a great time in the pool, as well as at the nearby beach (with the sharks!). Jan in soggy Nowra, Australia, where the rain is making up, in a short time, for many years of drought ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Goddard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > Hi Jan, Chance is we knew each other, I lived down the hill Gypsy Lane but > I > was all ways in Humberstone. I went to Mundella school. I all ways had an > okie when I lived up new parks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected]sweb.com > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John & Jan > Marchant > Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > I know I'm a bit behind with this - found this email when looking for > another. In Humberstone/Scraptoft, where I lived, I'd never heard of > "okie" > or "sucker" for icecream or lollipop. My hubby, though, in Oadby knew the > "okie" word well. > > I knew of pikelets in Leicester but here they're always crumpets. Then > again, smaller ones are called pikelets. Bread rolls were cobs to me in > Leicester, but just bread rolls here. On one visit to my father in law he > constantly talked about "baps". > > Tea cakes were never my thing but I found "cheesecakes", which had nothing > to do with cheese, annoying! Now there are REAL cheesecakes! > > Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. > > "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool > people use it all the time. > > (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) > > And then there's "me duck"! > > Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > >> >> Likewise asking for an "Okie" gets some odd looks >> >> As does "cheers luv" on occasion >> >> Another way we could tell Leicesterites was if they said "Ta" by way of >> thanks >> >> Then of course one of my customers who always left with "ta-ra a bit" >> >> Wonder where he came from <vbg> >> >> He got quite miffed when I called him a Brummie :-) >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >>> Nivard hit upon one part of everyday life which has different names >>> across >>> the country - namely the humble bread roll. >>> >>> As he rightly says, in Leicestershire it is a cob, as it is in Notts and >>> Derbys. But go to Nuneaton just over the Warwickshire border, and they >>> use >>> the word batch. Nip up to Sheffield and it's a bread cake, and over the >>> Pennines you ask for a barm Elsewhere it's a bap. >>> >>> I can remember as a child, when on holiday out of Nottingham, I wanted >>> an >>> ice lolly and asked for a sucker. Nobody understood me, and I also got >>> some >>> very funny looks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian Binns >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4786 - Release Date: 02/03/12 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4801 - Release Date: 02/10/12 >

    02/13/2012 02:47:54
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. Hi Gill Don't think I knew you, unless you were at Humberstone School in a class near mine and you've most likely changed your surname by marriage, as I have. I lived on Cardinals Walk, opposite direction to Gipsy Lane, and went to Collegiate school after Humberstone. Interesting you knew the word "okie" as it was never used in my area, where the ice cream van came regularly in summer and we kids queued up and bought ourselves one. Not sure where you mean when you say you lived "up new parks", unless you mean New Parks Estate, which I heard of but never really knew where it was! Jan in soggy Nowra, Australia, where the rain is making up, in a short time, for years and years of drought ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Goddard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > Hi Jan, Chance is we knew each other, I lived down the hill Gypsy Lane but > I > was all ways in Humberstone. I went to Mundella school. I all ways had an > okie when I lived up new parks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John & Jan > Marchant > Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > I know I'm a bit behind with this - found this email when looking for > another. In Humberstone/Scraptoft, where I lived, I'd never heard of > "okie" > or "sucker" for icecream or lollipop. My hubby, though, in Oadby knew the > "okie" word well. > > I knew of pikelets in Leicester but here they're always crumpets. Then > again, smaller ones are called pikelets. Bread rolls were cobs to me in > Leicester, but just bread rolls here. On one visit to my father in law he > constantly talked about "baps". > > Tea cakes were never my thing but I found "cheesecakes", which had nothing > to do with cheese, annoying! Now there are REAL cheesecakes! > > Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. > > "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool > people use it all the time. > > (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) > > And then there's "me duck"! > > Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > >> >> Likewise asking for an "Okie" gets some odd looks >> >> As does "cheers luv" on occasion >> >> Another way we could tell Leicesterites was if they said "Ta" by way of >> thanks >> >> Then of course one of my customers who always left with "ta-ra a bit" >> >> Wonder where he came from <vbg> >> >> He got quite miffed when I called him a Brummie :-) >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >>> Nivard hit upon one part of everyday life which has different names >>> across >>> the country - namely the humble bread roll. >>> >>> As he rightly says, in Leicestershire it is a cob, as it is in Notts and >>> Derbys. But go to Nuneaton just over the Warwickshire border, and they >>> use >>> the word batch. Nip up to Sheffield and it's a bread cake, and over the >>> Pennines you ask for a barm Elsewhere it's a bap. >>> >>> I can remember as a child, when on holiday out of Nottingham, I wanted >>> an >>> ice lolly and asked for a sucker. Nobody understood me, and I also got >>> some >>> very funny looks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian Binns >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4786 - Release Date: 02/03/12 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4801 - Release Date: 02/10/12 >

    02/13/2012 02:41:15
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Graham Jennings
    3. Hello My dad was driven to distraction by leicester slang and although we came from poor origins ,off of the “pool” he insisted we spoke “properly” which made us very popular at school .NOT!!. We were often accused of swallowing a dictionary .Here’s a cracking site of Leicester sayings.www.angelfire.com/fl2/slang/ Graham

    02/12/2012 05:36:53
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Indeed it is Brian Eng. regional (chiefly north.). A spoilt child. Usually of a child: spoilt, sulky, whining, moody. Also in extended use. I would have to question the chiefly northern though as I have found many North of the midlands haven't a clue what it means Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > And a word that often comes up on Countdown so it must be in the OED > > Brian Binns

    02/12/2012 03:52:51
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Brian Binns
    3. And a word that often comes up on Countdown so it must be in the OED Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 11 February 2012 21:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect Hi Terry More usually its mardy And yes , it means miserable, moping or getting the hump (to coin another phrase) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Whilst working in Perth Australia I met a chap from Sheffield who had the > same odd words in folks from Leicester.One that comes to mind is MAWDY if > that's how its spelt. Terry Ratcliffe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4805 - Release Date: 02/12/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4805 - Release Date: 02/12/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4805 - Release Date: 02/12/12

    02/12/2012 03:31:20
    1. [LEI] oops
    2. terry ratcliffe
    3. Mawdy is to be miserable for those who don’t speak Leicester.Sorry about that. Terry -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 487 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    02/12/2012 12:42:59
    1. [LEI] Dialect
    2. terry ratcliffe
    3. Whilst working in Perth Australia I met a chap from Sheffield who had the same odd words in folks from Leicester.One that comes to mind is MAWDY if that's how its spelt. Terry Ratcliffe -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 478 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    02/12/2012 12:36:25
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Terry More usually its mardy And yes , it means miserable, moping or getting the hump (to coin another phrase) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Whilst working in Perth Australia I met a chap from Sheffield who had the > same odd words in folks from Leicester.One that comes to mind is MAWDY if > that's how its spelt. Terry Ratcliffe

    02/11/2012 02:51:03
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Jim Fisher
    3. "Ta" for thanks confined to Leics.? That's news to me. It was (and I think still is) common usage in Wilts when I grew up there. "Me duck" and "pikelets" are normal terms in Nottinghamshire, but unheard of in Wilts or Beds. Jim Fisher Now living in Beds. On 11 Feb 2012 at 15:42, John & Jan Marchant wrote: > I know I'm a bit behind with this - found this email when looking for > another. In Humberstone/Scraptoft, where I lived, I'd never heard of > "okie" or "sucker" for icecream or lollipop. My hubby, though, in Oadby > knew the "okie" word well. > > I knew of pikelets in Leicester but here they're always crumpets. Then > again, smaller ones are called pikelets. Bread rolls were cobs to me in > Leicester, but just bread rolls here. On one visit to my father in law > he constantly talked about "baps". > > Tea cakes were never my thing but I found "cheesecakes", which had > nothing to do with cheese, annoying! Now there are REAL cheesecakes! > > Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. > > "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool > people use it all the time. > > (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) > > And then there's "me duck"! > > Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > > > > > Likewise asking for an "Okie" gets some odd looks > > > > As does "cheers luv" on occasion > > > > Another way we could tell Leicesterites was if they said "Ta" by way > > of thanks -- My web site is now at http://www.jimella.me.uk Family history, Gardening, Humour, Politics and more ...and blogs at http://jimella.livejournal.com and http://jimella.wordpress.com

    02/11/2012 01:58:25
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Olwyn Sherwin
    3. Hi Gill, My husband Norman wasn't to know if you ever went to Bridge Rd school .He is from Moat Rd Leicester and the different says you mention espesually Me Duck which I was always tempted to go Quack Quack to Well !! Cheers Olwyn in Kaipara NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Goddard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > Hi Jan, Chance is we knew each other, I lived down the hill Gypsy Lane but > I > was all ways in Humberstone. I went to Mundella school. I all ways had an > okie when I lived up new parks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John & Jan > Marchant > Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > I know I'm a bit behind with this - found this email when looking for > another. In Humberstone/Scraptoft, where I lived, I'd never heard of > "okie" > or "sucker" for icecream or lollipop. My hubby, though, in Oadby knew the > "okie" word well. > > I knew of pikelets in Leicester but here they're always crumpets. Then > again, smaller ones are called pikelets. Bread rolls were cobs to me in > Leicester, but just bread rolls here. On one visit to my father in law he > constantly talked about "baps". > > Tea cakes were never my thing but I found "cheesecakes", which had nothing > to do with cheese, annoying! Now there are REAL cheesecakes! > > Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. > > "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool > people use it all the time. > > (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) > > And then there's "me duck"! > > Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > >> >> Likewise asking for an "Okie" gets some odd looks >> >> As does "cheers luv" on occasion >> >> Another way we could tell Leicesterites was if they said "Ta" by way of >> thanks >> >> Then of course one of my customers who always left with "ta-ra a bit" >> >> Wonder where he came from <vbg> >> >> He got quite miffed when I called him a Brummie :-) >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >>> Nivard hit upon one part of everyday life which has different names >>> across >>> the country - namely the humble bread roll. >>> >>> As he rightly says, in Leicestershire it is a cob, as it is in Notts and >>> Derbys. But go to Nuneaton just over the Warwickshire border, and they >>> use >>> the word batch. Nip up to Sheffield and it's a bread cake, and over the >>> Pennines you ask for a barm Elsewhere it's a bap. >>> >>> I can remember as a child, when on holiday out of Nottingham, I wanted >>> an >>> ice lolly and asked for a sucker. Nobody understood me, and I also got >>> some >>> very funny looks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian Binns >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4786 - Release Date: 02/03/12 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/11/2012 11:57:08
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Gill Goddard
    3. Hi Olwyn. No not the school but we did swimming over there. Gill. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Olwyn Sherwin Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 1:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect Hi Gill, My husband Norman wasn't to know if you ever went to Bridge Rd school .He is from Moat Rd Leicester and the different says you mention espesually Me Duck which I was always tempted to go Quack Quack to Well !! Cheers Olwyn in Kaipara NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Goddard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > Hi Jan, Chance is we knew each other, I lived down the hill Gypsy Lane but > I > was all ways in Humberstone. I went to Mundella school. I all ways had an > okie when I lived up new parks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John & Jan > Marchant > Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > I know I'm a bit behind with this - found this email when looking for > another. In Humberstone/Scraptoft, where I lived, I'd never heard of > "okie" > or "sucker" for icecream or lollipop. My hubby, though, in Oadby knew the > "okie" word well. > > I knew of pikelets in Leicester but here they're always crumpets. Then > again, smaller ones are called pikelets. Bread rolls were cobs to me in > Leicester, but just bread rolls here. On one visit to my father in law he > constantly talked about "baps". > > Tea cakes were never my thing but I found "cheesecakes", which had nothing > to do with cheese, annoying! Now there are REAL cheesecakes! > > Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. > > "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool > people use it all the time. > > (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) > > And then there's "me duck"! > > Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > >> >> Likewise asking for an "Okie" gets some odd looks >> >> As does "cheers luv" on occasion >> >> Another way we could tell Leicesterites was if they said "Ta" by way of >> thanks >> >> Then of course one of my customers who always left with "ta-ra a bit" >> >> Wonder where he came from <vbg> >> >> He got quite miffed when I called him a Brummie :-) >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >>> Nivard hit upon one part of everyday life which has different names >>> across >>> the country - namely the humble bread roll. >>> >>> As he rightly says, in Leicestershire it is a cob, as it is in Notts and >>> Derbys. But go to Nuneaton just over the Warwickshire border, and they >>> use >>> the word batch. Nip up to Sheffield and it's a bread cake, and over the >>> Pennines you ask for a barm Elsewhere it's a bap. >>> >>> I can remember as a child, when on holiday out of Nottingham, I wanted >>> an >>> ice lolly and asked for a sucker. Nobody understood me, and I also got >>> some >>> very funny looks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian Binns >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4786 - Release Date: 02/03/12 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/11/2012 09:54:45
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. I know I'm a bit behind with this - found this email when looking for another. In Humberstone/Scraptoft, where I lived, I'd never heard of "okie" or "sucker" for icecream or lollipop. My hubby, though, in Oadby knew the "okie" word well. I knew of pikelets in Leicester but here they're always crumpets. Then again, smaller ones are called pikelets. Bread rolls were cobs to me in Leicester, but just bread rolls here. On one visit to my father in law he constantly talked about "baps". Tea cakes were never my thing but I found "cheesecakes", which had nothing to do with cheese, annoying! Now there are REAL cheesecakes! Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool people use it all the time. (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) And then there's "me duck"! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > Likewise asking for an "Okie" gets some odd looks > > As does "cheers luv" on occasion > > Another way we could tell Leicesterites was if they said "Ta" by way of > thanks > > Then of course one of my customers who always left with "ta-ra a bit" > > Wonder where he came from <vbg> > > He got quite miffed when I called him a Brummie :-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Nivard hit upon one part of everyday life which has different names >> across >> the country - namely the humble bread roll. >> >> As he rightly says, in Leicestershire it is a cob, as it is in Notts and >> Derbys. But go to Nuneaton just over the Warwickshire border, and they >> use >> the word batch. Nip up to Sheffield and it's a bread cake, and over the >> Pennines you ask for a barm Elsewhere it's a bap. >> >> I can remember as a child, when on holiday out of Nottingham, I wanted an >> ice lolly and asked for a sucker. Nobody understood me, and I also got >> some >> very funny looks. >> >> >> >> Brian Binns > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4786 - Release Date: 02/03/12 >

    02/11/2012 08:42:39
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Gill Goddard
    3. Hi Jan, Chance is we knew each other, I lived down the hill Gypsy Lane but I was all ways in Humberstone. I went to Mundella school. I all ways had an okie when I lived up new parks. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John & Jan Marchant Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 12:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect I know I'm a bit behind with this - found this email when looking for another. In Humberstone/Scraptoft, where I lived, I'd never heard of "okie" or "sucker" for icecream or lollipop. My hubby, though, in Oadby knew the "okie" word well. I knew of pikelets in Leicester but here they're always crumpets. Then again, smaller ones are called pikelets. Bread rolls were cobs to me in Leicester, but just bread rolls here. On one visit to my father in law he constantly talked about "baps". Tea cakes were never my thing but I found "cheesecakes", which had nothing to do with cheese, annoying! Now there are REAL cheesecakes! Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool people use it all the time. (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) And then there's "me duck"! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] Dialect > > Likewise asking for an "Okie" gets some odd looks > > As does "cheers luv" on occasion > > Another way we could tell Leicesterites was if they said "Ta" by way of > thanks > > Then of course one of my customers who always left with "ta-ra a bit" > > Wonder where he came from <vbg> > > He got quite miffed when I called him a Brummie :-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Nivard hit upon one part of everyday life which has different names >> across >> the country - namely the humble bread roll. >> >> As he rightly says, in Leicestershire it is a cob, as it is in Notts and >> Derbys. But go to Nuneaton just over the Warwickshire border, and they >> use >> the word batch. Nip up to Sheffield and it's a bread cake, and over the >> Pennines you ask for a barm Elsewhere it's a bap. >> >> I can remember as a child, when on holiday out of Nottingham, I wanted an >> ice lolly and asked for a sucker. Nobody understood me, and I also got >> some >> very funny looks. >> >> >> >> Brian Binns > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4786 - Release Date: 02/03/12 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/11/2012 06:42:08
    1. Re: [LEI] Dialect
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Jan I wouldn't necessarily say that the use of "Ta" for thank you is specifically Leicester as many more use it But we found that Leicester people used it far more, and everytime I heard it in use and asked the user they turned out to be from Leicestershire Ta-ra is far more widespread but Ta-ra a bit is Black Country By coincidence a talk at the Who Do You Think You Are Live: caught my eye Sunday 26th February 10:00 "Ey Up Mi Duck!" A History of British accents and dialects - with John Titford Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Didn't realise "Ta" for thanks was confined to Leics., or even UK. > > "Ta-ra" was common amongst friends in Leicester but I notice Liverpool > people use it all the time. > > (Get to know a few accents being in Oz.) > > And then there's "me duck"! > > Jan

    02/11/2012 02:35:59
    1. Re: [LEI] Victorian letter >> Shops in Gallowtree Gate ?
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. Hi Nivard, Brian and Listers I shopped weekly in Leicester until leaving in early 1965 for Australia. after Lewis's I usually went, via that back way across a narrow street, to Woolworths and then out onto Gallowtree Gate. I know Boots were (and I think still are, or were in the 1990s?) on that side of Gallowtree Gate. On the market side I can only really remember H Samuel, the jewellers where my engagement ring and both our wedding rings were purchased. And was the Turkey Cafe along there or further up? Also I remember, somewhere either on Gallowtree Gate or the street at the back opposite the market, a shop smelling strongly of roasting coffee with a metal cylinder rotating in the window. That last shop was further back in time, in the 1940s and maybe early 50s - not sure whether it stayed there longer or not. I know my mother never went into that shop. When I shopped as an adult I didn't often go to any shops on that side of Gallowtree Gate but crossed from the Woolworths side to go through one of the arcades to the market. I remember Adderleys, later Marshall and Snelgrove, and Morgan Squires, both of which were around the market area. They were both less crowded than the other shops and quiet inside with carpeted floors. Don't remember going in those shops very often, though. I do remember how crowded the shops were before Christmas in those days, just being carried along by the crowd like a sardine in a can from beginning of November onwards! Hope it's not so bad now. No rellies of mine in the Wyggeston Schools results I'm afraid. My family graced Leicester with its presence for just 30 years, my ancestors and relatives all being from other parts of England. Jan Marchant in NSW, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Victorian letter >> Shops in Gallowtree Gate ? > Marshall & Snelgrove? > > I worked as a management trainee for F.W.Woolworth and was at the > Gallowtree > Gate branch in 1967, but of course that was on the opposite side of the > road. > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard > Ovington > Sent: 07 February 2012 11:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] Victorian letter >> Shops in Gallowtree Gate ? > > Hi Jan > > My wifes first job was at Lewis's in the shoe department > > Just round the corner from Timothy Whites where one of my brothers first > worked, also close to > Bree's on Churchgate where a sister worked > > Now I wonder if anyone can help stir my fading memory > > We have been trying to remember what shops were down the Gallowtree Gate > on > the Market side in the > 1960's & 70's ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Hi Mike >> >> I would have been in Lewis's often when you were working there. My bus >> dropped us in Humberstone Gate and I always went straight into Lewis's > first >> to >> start a shopping afternoon, also visiting several other shops and often > the >> market too. Maybe your Lucy Eaglesfield was related to the people > mentioned >> in the letters. >> >> Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4793 - Release Date: 02/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4793 - Release Date: 02/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4793 - Release Date: 02/06/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4795 - Release Date: 02/07/12 >

    02/10/2012 10:00:36
    1. Re: [LEI] Old Leicester
    2. Thanks for this link Brian. I found a photo of the house that I was born in. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:leicestershire- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Binns > Sent: 08 February 2012 08:57 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEI] Old Leicester > > Interesting website with photos of streets/parts of Leicester long gone. > > > > Brian Binns > > > > http://cdm15407.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/search/collection/p15407coll5/searc > ht > erm/Leicester%20-- > %20City%20centre/field/place/mode/exact/conn/and/cosuppres > s/ > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4794 - Release Date: 02/07/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

    02/10/2012 04:55:28