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    1. Re: [LEI] memories
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. Brian, if you are responsible for this thread it is very much appreciated - by many people, judging by the emails coming in. We all enjoy a bit of nostalgia! Jan in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] memories > It would appear that I have been "named" as the person who started this > thread with my Victorian Letters. > Although I was born in Nottingham, I have quite a few connections with > Leicestershire, apart from living here now. > I used to be a trainee manager with F.W.Woolworth Ltd and started at their > branch in Nottingham. Part of the training was that you moved around the > region, and following stints in Northampton, Birmingham and Llandudno, I > spent 2 years at the Loughborough store (where I met my wife to be) before > moving to the Woolworths on Gallowtree Gate. This also had entrances on > Halford Street - and just while this street is being mentioned, why is it > pronounced in Leicester as Half-ord Street, rather than Hal-ford? At this > time in 1968, this was one of the most modern of Woolworth stores. In > contrast, the two other Leicester stores, in The Market Place and on > Belgrave Road (opposite BUSM) still had the wooden floors and the old > style > of counters, and by comparison were antiquated. > > Later in my career I worked in sales, firstly in Grocery, then Wines and > Spirits, and latterly Greeting Cards, so the mention of such stores as > Lewis's, Morgan and Squires, Midland Educational, Simpkin & James etc all > brought back memories of selling to these various outlets. > > When I used to work at Woolworths Leicester, I used to street park my car > close by the old Railway Goods Station - was it Samuel Street? We then > walked to the store and I recall having to go past an animal hide factory, > or was it a tannery. Somewhere around Rutland Street it would have been, > but > my knowledge of old Leicester streets is not good. There used to be animal > skins lying around inside the open gates and the smell was awful. > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham > Jennings > Sent: 19 February 2012 20:44 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] memories > > Anybody remember the small Woolies (Woolworths) in the market place, with > it's rickety wooden escalator at the right hand side as you went in? .My > dad > > used to send us there to get shoe repair materials.It smelled old and of > wood polish . > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lesley Chaney > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEI] memories > > Hi Listers, > > A shop that hasn't been mentioned is a gift shop that I think was called > Spalls, on Gallowtree Gate when I moved to Leicester in 1961. Soon after > it > moved to High Street and closed a few years later, which caused a flood of > letters to the Leicester Mercury bemoaning its loss. It always seemed > very > busy so its closure came as a bit of a shock. > >>From what everyone has written, it seems the shops in Leicester in the > post-war years were still as Victorian as those in London. I > re-experienced > all those smells at Flambards in Cornwall, where they have constructed a > Victorian town centre with amazing detail, even to those smells. > > Lesley > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4817 - Release Date: 02/18/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4817 - Release Date: 02/18/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4820 - Release Date: 02/19/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4822 - Release Date: 02/20/12 >

    02/22/2012 08:37:48
    1. Re: [LEI] It's that pie again !
    2. Tom Perrett
    3. On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:27:26 +1100, Christine M Denton wrote: >Can't receive BBC Radio 4 here, You can if you download a free thing from the BBC called BBC iPlayer which you install on your PC then you can stream the program to your PC speakers. Cheers, Tom <[email protected]> Tom Perrett

    02/22/2012 07:44:12
    1. Re: [LEI] It's that pie again !
    2. John & Jan Marchant
    3. Thanks, Terry. 3 pm in UK is 2 am here; don't think I would have stayed up, even if I'd had time to read the email before the broadcast! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine M Denton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! > Can't receive BBC Radio 4 here, but would I love a Melton Mowbray pie - I > remember my parents selling the small ones from our shop in Osmaston Road, > for 9d each in the mid 1950's. > The last one I bought in Australia was almost $4.00 and not as good as I > remember!!!! Another trip back to home sounds like a good idea. > > Regards to all, > Christine, Wangaratta, Vic. Australia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TERRY > HOPKIN- > SUNDBY > Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 8:48 PM > To: leic list > Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! > > > BBC RADIO 4 is on the internet so anyone anywhere can listen in > regards > > Terry > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:30:17 +0000 >> Subject: [LEI] It's that pie again ! >> >> For UK listeners who can pick up BBC Radio4 : They'll be in Melton >> Mowbray >> in a programme at 3pm today chatting with the locals about pork pies, >> Stilton cheese and, since it's Shrove Tuesday, pancakes. >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c7pqn >> >> Jill >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4823 - Release Date: 02/21/12 >

    02/22/2012 07:22:43
    1. [LEI] MEMORIES
    2. J FLEETWOOD
    3.     Good morning Listers,   Some of you will have received already the compilation of the e-mails on the above topic, but it looks as if there are still memories you wish to share with us.   So, please keep them coming in either to the List, or to my e-mail address, & I will save them.   At the end of June 2012 I will prepare a revised article which will include all these new items.     Apart from new memories about our Midland Red buses, other memories of the 1940s are being sent to the list which, I feel, should be included.   In the meantime, the original article is available for anyone who would like a copy.   Please contact me off list.       Regards     June Fleetwood     West Yorkshire 

    02/22/2012 03:31:19
    1. Re: [LEI] It's that pie again !
    2. Christine M Denton
    3. Can't receive BBC Radio 4 here, but would I love a Melton Mowbray pie - I remember my parents selling the small ones from our shop in Osmaston Road, for 9d each in the mid 1950's. The last one I bought in Australia was almost $4.00 and not as good as I remember!!!! Another trip back to home sounds like a good idea. Regards to all, Christine, Wangaratta, Vic. Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 8:48 PM To: leic list Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! BBC RADIO 4 is on the internet so anyone anywhere can listen in regards Terry > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:30:17 +0000 > Subject: [LEI] It's that pie again ! > > For UK listeners who can pick up BBC Radio4 : They'll be in Melton Mowbray > in a programme at 3pm today chatting with the locals about pork pies, > Stilton cheese and, since it's Shrove Tuesday, pancakes. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c7pqn > > Jill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/21/2012 03:27:26
    1. Re: [LEI] M,EMORIES
    2. Linda Chapman
    3. Hi Nivard I went to school there [hastings and the grammar as it was then] and was back there a few weeks ago. the shopping is still very good, with the market being on mondays and saturdays but it has been spoilt by the northern perimeter road going through it. Lin On 21 February 2012 17:45, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Linda > > Yes the L658 went down the Hinckley road , not sure if it went further > than Hinckley (Nuneaton?) > > The last time I used that bus was at least 35+ years ago so seems odd I > can remember it > > Hinckley is another place thats not mentioned so often on the lists, it > was and hopefully still is a > nice Market Town :-) > > We would go to Hinckley to avoid the hustle & bustle of Leicester , it was > a more laid back > atmosphere , not dissimilar to Truro here in Cornwall > > I suppose that like most towns and cities its suffering with a decline in > trade > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > did the 658 go through to Hinckley > > > > the one I used the most was the 54 that I caught on narborough road > > opposite haddenham road and it cost a threepenny bit to go into town lol > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/21/2012 10:59:41
    1. Re: [LEI] M,EMORIES
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Linda Yes the L658 went down the Hinckley road , not sure if it went further than Hinckley (Nuneaton?) The last time I used that bus was at least 35+ years ago so seems odd I can remember it Hinckley is another place thats not mentioned so often on the lists, it was and hopefully still is a nice Market Town :-) We would go to Hinckley to avoid the hustle & bustle of Leicester , it was a more laid back atmosphere , not dissimilar to Truro here in Cornwall I suppose that like most towns and cities its suffering with a decline in trade Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > did the 658 go through to Hinckley > > the one I used the most was the 54 that I caught on narborough road > opposite haddenham road and it cost a threepenny bit to go into town lol

    02/21/2012 10:45:16
    1. Re: [LEI] M,EMORIES
    2. Linda Chapman
    3. did the 658 go through to Hinckley the one I used the most was the 54 that I caught on narborough road opposite haddenham road and it cost a threepenny bit to go into town lol On 21 February 2012 17:22, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi June > > One of the less earth shattering but nonetheless surprising things that > surfaced from these > recollections was that our memory for bus numbers is quite remarkable :-) > > I mailed my sister during the course of this thread and she replied with > some of her memories about > Leicester, including and without a reminder the bus numbers that I also > remembered despite not being > on a bus in years much less in Leicestershire > > Our buses were the L19 and the L658 > > I know others have mentioned their bus numbers too, they obviously played > quite a part in our lives > either waiting for them or being on them and I guess thats why we remember > them > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > Hi Listers > > I have finally completed the 'cut & paste' of your memories & the article > is now ready. > > If you would like a copy, please conact me OFF LIST at > [email protected] > > The article is 21 pages long & includes over 200 contributions. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/21/2012 10:29:38
    1. Re: [LEI] M,EMORIES
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi June One of the less earth shattering but nonetheless surprising things that surfaced from these recollections was that our memory for bus numbers is quite remarkable :-) I mailed my sister during the course of this thread and she replied with some of her memories about Leicester, including and without a reminder the bus numbers that I also remembered despite not being on a bus in years much less in Leicestershire Our buses were the L19 and the L658 I know others have mentioned their bus numbers too, they obviously played quite a part in our lives either waiting for them or being on them and I guess thats why we remember them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Hi Listers I have finally completed the 'cut & paste' of your memories & the article is now ready. If you would like a copy, please conact me OFF LIST at [email protected] The article is 21 pages long & includes over 200 contributions.

    02/21/2012 10:22:48
    1. Re: [LEI] Shop connections
    2. J FLEETWOOD
    3. Brian Yet again, a most beautifully written & eloquent piece. By the way, my father knew the Curry family. I have saved all your Victorian Letters for re-reading again later. Do you realise how stimulating your contribution of these letters to the List has been? I have had e-mails from people who had, for whatever reason, allowed their interest in Genealogy to wane, but you have re-awakened this interest for them. For that alone, we thank you Brian. Cannot wait to read your next piece....... Regards June Fleetwood West Yorkshire From: Brian Binns <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012, 10:01 Subject: [LEI] Shop connections One of my paternal lines can be traced back to a William Campion who lived in Loughborough for the first half of the 19th century. He was born c. 1783, married in Loughborough in 1808, and died there in 1848. Campion is an odd surname to trace as it occurs in enclaves across England and Ireland too. There are those that think it is a corruption of a French surname - Champion? - and perhaps is of Huguenot origins. Whatever, this William was recorded on the 1841 census as being born outside of Leicestershire, and my guess, as I cannot trace back further, is that his family moved to Loughborough from Nottingham. His occupation, from various sources, is either recorded as a Machine Smith, Blacksmith, or Whitesmith. Two of his sons, George b. 1813 and William b. 1822 followed on as machine smiths, George remaining in Loughborough, but William moving to the Sneinton area of Nottingham in the 1840s. Following George's death in 1858 in Loughborough, two of his sons William and Henry moved to Nottingham along with sisters Emma and Ada. This William then formed a company with his uncle William in Nottingham as Sewing Machine Manufacturers, employing brother Henry. Another brother, George, also moved to Nottingham as a Frame Smith. The two Williams worked together for a few years before dissolving the partnership. There are dozens and dozens of patents taken out by a William Campion over this period and later, some minor, some major, but it is impossible on many of them to determine exactly which William it was. Yet another instance of our ancestors using the same Christian names, just to confuse future genealogists! The elder William then concentrated more on industrial knitting machines, whereas the younger William opened a factory making home Sewing Machines following him establishing a patent on the Jenny Lind machine. He also visited France and saw the production of bicycles, which led him to start cycle production alongside making Sewing Machines. One of his early employees was a Thomas Humber, who subsequently founded his own cycle works in Beeston, Notts, before expanding into motorised tricycles. He opened a factory in Coventry to produce Motor Cars, which then became The Humber Car Company. Brothers George and Henry both moved from being smiths into the pub trade, with differing outcomes, and incidentally both Williams also ran pubs in later life - a boozy family! But back to Campion Cycles. These proved very popular, and William, now with his eldest son Edwin, developed the company and opened several retail premises in Nottingham, and as far as Mansfield, Ilkeston, Long Eaton and Newark. They also had three branches in Leicester; 12 Welford Place, St. Nicholas Street, and 45 Braunston Gate. The company was now making motor cycles and motor tricycles, and even a small car. But their cars never took off as had the ones of their former worker, Thomas Humber. In researching the Campions, (and I have a lot more detail than I can include here), I wondered what happened to the company, and this is where I found another Leicester connection. The retail side was apparently bought by Curry's in 1927, and this is when I discovered that the firm of Curry's was in fact founded in Leicester, and also started out as a cycle maker and retailer. This is their entry from Wikipedia. Curry's was founded in 1884 by Henry Curry (born in Leicester in 1850), when he started to build bicycles full time in a shed at the back of his garden at 40 Painter Street, Leicester, England. He opened his first shop in 1888 at 271 Belgrave Gate, Leicester. In 1890 he moved to larger premises at 296 Belgrave Gate, then in 1900 to 285-287 Belgrave Gate. The company was put on a proper financial footing in 1897 when Henry formed a partnership with his sons, calling the company H. Curry & Sons. The business continued to grow and floated on the stock exchange in 1927. By this time the shops sold a wide variety of goods including bicycles, toys, radios and gramophones. Curry's pulled out of cycle manufacturing in 1932 when they closed their Leicester factory but continued to retail Hercules bikes (badged as Curry's) until the 1960s. It would appear that Campion continued with making and selling motor cycles as they are listed as such in phone books in Leicester and Nottingham well into the 1930s. Another Leicester connection is that Edwin Campion once owned and lived in Wymeswold Hall. To find partnerships, patents etc which add so much to the meat of Family History when you have ancestors who were in Manufacturing, it is easy to search The London Gazette site for free - www.london-gazette.co.uk Brian Binns Loughborough   _____  No virus found in this message. 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    02/21/2012 10:01:56
    1. [LEI] M,EMORIES
    2. J FLEETWOOD
    3. Hi Listers   I have finally completed the 'cut & paste' of your memories & the article is now ready.   If you would like a copy, please conact me OFF LIST at [email protected]   The article is 21 pages long & includes over 200 contributions.   I do hope that this compilation is as good-a-read as the original e-mails.   I feel that this thread has now reached it's end & I would like to thank all of you who contributed over the 2½ weeks that this thread was alive.   Regards to you all June Fleetwood West Yorkshire.

    02/21/2012 09:56:10
    1. Re: [LEI] Shop connections - Campions
    2. Lesley Chaney
    3. That was an interesting read, Brian. My late father-in-law worked for Campions as a motorcycle mechanic, I think at Welford Place. This would be in the 1930s. He used to road race a works bike, ie he had some sponsorship from Campions, competing at the old Donington Park circuit that went through the bridge (now altered) and at Syston Park, Grantham. If you are interested, I'll ask my husband if he can add to my memory of what my father-in-law told me. I regularly passed the Braunstone Gate branch in the early 1960s. Lesley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Brian Binns Sent: 21 February 2012 10:02 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] Shop connections But back to Campion Cycles. These proved very popular, and William, now with his eldest son Edwin, developed the company and opened several retail premises in Nottingham, and as far as Mansfield, Ilkeston, Long Eaton and Newark. They also had three branches in Leicester; 12 Welford Place, St. Nicholas Street, and 45 Braunston Gate. The company was now making motor cycles and motor tricycles, and even a small car. But their cars never took off as had the ones of their former worker, Thomas Humber. In researching the Campions, (and I have a lot more detail than I can include here), I wondered what happened to the company, and this is where I found another Leicester connection. The retail side was apparently bought by Curry's in 1927, and this is when I discovered that the firm of Curry's was in fact founded in Leicester, and also started out as a cycle maker and retailer. This is their entry from Wikipedia. Curry's was founded in 1884 by Henry Curry (born in Leicester in 1850), when he started to build bicycles full time in a shed at the back of his garden at 40 Painter Street, Leicester, England. He opened his first shop in 1888 at 271 Belgrave Gate, Leicester. In 1890 he moved to larger premises at 296 Belgrave Gate, then in 1900 to 285-287 Belgrave Gate. The company was put on a proper financial footing in 1897 when Henry formed a partnership with his sons, calling the company H. Curry & Sons. The business continued to grow and floated on the stock exchange in 1927. By this time the shops sold a wide variety of goods including bicycles, toys, radios and gramophones. Curry's pulled out of cycle manufacturing in 1932 when they closed their Leicester factory but continued to retail Hercules bikes (badged as Curry's) until the 1960s. It would appear that Campion continued with making and selling motor cycles as they are listed as such in phone books in Leicester and Nottingham well into the 1930s. Another Leicester connection is that Edwin Campion once owned and lived in Wymeswold Hall. To find partnerships, patents etc which add so much to the meat of Family History when you have ancestors who were in Manufacturing, it is easy to search The London Gazette site for free - www.london-gazette.co.uk Brian Binns Loughborough _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4822 - Release Date: 02/20/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/21/2012 09:51:13
    1. [LEI] John GOODMAN ggrandad
    2. jim goodman
    3. in keeping with local area memories a couple of questions John Thomas GOODMAN born 1857 Leicester married Agnes WARD Leicester 1877 in 1881 census John Thomas GOODMAN a train examiner living 8 Donnington St Leicester 1891 Richmond house, Fairfield Rd Wigston Magna a railway labourer 1901 John T GOODMAN 43 Inn/Pub keeper 57 Burton street Melton Mowbray the BOAT INN 1911 publican, still Boat Inn ( now closed? I had a beer there 6 years ago) anyone with stories of the Boat Inn? anyone know who owned the Boat Inn? 1901 prior to working at Boat Inn it was said he worked at the conservative club in Leicester (after1891before1901) anyone know of this club history and location prior to 1901? jim

    02/21/2012 09:35:11
    1. Re: [LEI] It's that pie again !
    2. Brian Binns
    3. As most from Leicestershire will know, Melton Mowbray Pork Pies have now achieved "Protected Geographical Status" and can only be called Melton Mowbray Pork Pies if they are made in a designated region. This is not just Melton but stretches out for about a 15 mile radius and includes Walkers of Leicester. See this link http://www.mmppa.co.uk/ for a list of genuine Melton Pie Makers. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine M Denton Sent: 21 February 2012 11:27 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! Can't receive BBC Radio 4 here, but would I love a Melton Mowbray pie - I remember my parents selling the small ones from our shop in Osmaston Road, for 9d each in the mid 1950's. The last one I bought in Australia was almost $4.00 and not as good as I remember!!!! Another trip back to home sounds like a good idea. Regards to all, Christine, Wangaratta, Vic. Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 8:48 PM To: leic list Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! BBC RADIO 4 is on the internet so anyone anywhere can listen in regards Terry > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:30:17 +0000 > Subject: [LEI] It's that pie again ! > > For UK listeners who can pick up BBC Radio4 : They'll be in Melton Mowbray > in a programme at 3pm today chatting with the locals about pork pies, > Stilton cheese and, since it's Shrove Tuesday, pancakes. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c7pqn > > Jill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4822 - Release Date: 02/20/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4822 - Release Date: 02/20/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4822 - Release Date: 02/20/12

    02/21/2012 08:13:27
    1. Re: [LEI] M,EMORIES
    2. I was born and lived in Nuneaton for the first 20 years of my life, and in the late 40s, 50s and early 60s relied on Midland Red buses as a major means of travel. >From what I remember, each town with a Midland Red garage had a range of local routes commencing with the initial town letter followed by two numbers, eg N for Nuneaton, L for Leicester, C for Coventry etc.. Routes between towns and cities used three numbers, usually beginning with 6 or 7. I often used the 658 bus, which ran between Coventry and Leicester through Nuneaton and Hinckley, to get to Leicester. As Midland Red operated across the whole region, some long routes had the letter X followed by two numbers. I seem to recacall a service from Leicester through Coventry to Birmingham beginning with X, and there was a X route from Nuneaton to Hereford. Of course, many young boys in the late 40s could obtain a book of all the bus fleet numbers, a parallel to trainspotting. Obviously the fleet was eventually divided into smaller geographical ares, but nowadays there seems to be a fleet of turqoise and cream Arriva buses in towns and cities all over the country!! David Hutt

    02/21/2012 06:51:58
    1. Re: [LEI] It's that pie again !
    2. TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY
    3. go on internet to bbc and you'll get it any way in the world lol Terry > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:27:26 +1100 > Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! > > Can't receive BBC Radio 4 here, but would I love a Melton Mowbray pie - I > remember my parents selling the small ones from our shop in Osmaston Road, > for 9d each in the mid 1950's. > The last one I bought in Australia was almost $4.00 and not as good as I > remember!!!! Another trip back to home sounds like a good idea. > > Regards to all, > Christine, Wangaratta, Vic. Australia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TERRY HOPKIN- > SUNDBY > Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 8:48 PM > To: leic list > Subject: Re: [LEI] It's that pie again ! > > > BBC RADIO 4 is on the internet so anyone anywhere can listen in > regards > > Terry > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:30:17 +0000 > > Subject: [LEI] It's that pie again ! > > > > For UK listeners who can pick up BBC Radio4 : They'll be in Melton Mowbray > > in a programme at 3pm today chatting with the locals about pork pies, > > Stilton cheese and, since it's Shrove Tuesday, pancakes. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c7pqn > > > > Jill > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/21/2012 06:38:27
    1. Re: [LEI] What happened to SELINA BRADSHAW ?
    2. Derek
    3. Yes, Nivard - just arrived and many many thanks, also for the correction you have sent to Ancestry. After a number of years searching it is 'high fives' all round - another brick wall ticked off, just got her parents, Selina & William, to find now ! Thanks again Nivard and also to everyone else. Derek. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] What happened to SELINA BRADSHAW ? Have you looked in your inbox :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Can anyone send me a copy of the census image ? Or is that taboo ? > > Derek.

    02/21/2012 04:42:45
    1. Re: [LEI] What happened to SELINA BRADSHAW ?
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Have you looked in your inbox :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Can anyone send me a copy of the census image ? Or is that taboo ? > > Derek.

    02/21/2012 04:12:56
    1. Re: [LEI] What happened to SELINA BRADSHAW ?
    2. Derek
    3. Can anyone send me a copy of the census image ? Or is that taboo ? Derek. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: "dennis jackson" ; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] What happened to SELINA BRADSHAW ? We like an alternative don't we <g> >From Ancestry 1911 England Census about Eliza Rawley Name: Eliza Rawley Age in 1911: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Leicester County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: 106 Willow Brook Road Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Neadelwork At Home Registration district: Leicester Registration District Number: 407 Sub-registration district: North East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Piece: 19261 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Rawley 54 Sarh Rawley 26 Mabel Rawley 20 Anne Beadshaw 11 RG14; Piece: 19261. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > The 1911 transcript on findmypast shows the same names > > RG14 / 19261 / schedule 284 > 106 Willow Brook Road Leicester > DAWLEY, Eliza Head Widow F 54 1857 Neadelwork At Home Banbury Oxon > DAWLEY, Sarah Daughter F 26 1885 Boot Machinist Leicester Leicestershire > DAWLEY, Madel Daughter F 20 1891 Hosery Ternetts Machine Leicester > Leicestershire > BEADSHAIN, Anne Lodger F 11 1900 School Leicester Leicestershire > > Having looked at the image it certainly looks like "D" at the beginning of > the surname. Although the "D" in Daughter is a completely different shape > letter. Likewise, it looks like Beadshain ... it's difficult to read > Bradshaw. > > One thing not included in the transcript (and crossed out by the > enumerator) > is that the columns for number of children have been filled in. These show > total children = 5 and children alive = 5. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/21/2012 04:07:26
    1. Re: [LEI] What happened to SELINA BRADSHAW ?
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Derek Given your last post I have entered corrections RAWLEY to PAWLEY and Anne BEADSHAW to Annie BRADSHAW on Ancestry That will appear in the searchable index in a couple of weeks Let me know if the above correction is incorrect Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Dennis, > > Many many thanks for the information. > The address of 106 Willow Brook Road confirms things, as this is the address > in the school records of 1914 when Eliza Pawley was listed as guardian to > Annie Bradshaw. > > Derek.

    02/21/2012 04:04:13