Thanks Sherry... yes, I do back ups as well now. Just was told a long time ago that GEDCOMs were best for everything so now I know better. Again, many thanks. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Support" <Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com> To: <LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing > Backing Up the file is a lot better way to protect your data than doing > gedcoms, even if you send the backup to someone who doesn't use Legacy > just > to have it off-site for safe keeping. > > Go to http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Tips.asp, where you'll find an > article > under "Backing Up and Restoring Family Files" > > > Thanks for using Legacy. > > Sherry > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > We are changing the world of genealogy! > > When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. > Thanks. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sheila Chonko [mailto:grami948@toledosuper.net] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:05 AM > To: LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing > > Yes, think this was my GEDCOM problem. I did use GEDCOMs as back-ups plus > sent them to a number of people in an information swap. No one ever said > anything about missing document text however I'm now finding alot of > information lost that I originially thought was in my program. Blessedly > most is in an old GEDCOM from another genealogy program so the information > was saved. I was a total novice to the program & thought such things > would > be a default. I , however, will take full blame for not knowing about the > "Override Source Options." I'm able to recreate some over time & have > learned a lot in the process. Will take me awhile to get the files > totally > righted as its years of work lost that I didn't realize was gone. Things > are what they are so its time to just deal with my files as they are. > > Hopefully everyone has learned something from this & our use of the > program > will be better. Many thanks to everyone! > > Sheila > > > ==== LEGACY Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, or to unsubscribe, or to view the > list archive, or for other list information, go to the web page at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/LEGACY.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Will let you know if I continue to have problems. I'm making a few Details Text entires but all I just put in the Notes section.... safer that way. :) Figured I'd try a few Details Text just to see how they GEDCOM thru. Haven't been able to work on genealogy recently so admit to being curious how my next GEDCOM comes out. Again, many thanks! Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Kowallek" <kowallek@iglou.com> To: <LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing > On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:26:47 -0400, "Sheila Chonko" > <grami948@toledosuper.net> wrote: > >>Sorry, I'm not understanding your question totally so will try to explain. >>I've been doing the GEDCOMs without the "Override Source Options" since >>the >>beginning.... around 2000. I have a couple of the original GEDCOMs with >>the >>information as that information was from a GEDCOM sent to me by someone >>else >>several years ago. I have added to my own files significantly over the >>years >>without realizing I had lost the information that I had entered from the >>GEDCOM that was sent to me. > > I'm beginning to think that this option has nothing to do with the cause > of your disappearing data. > > I went back to your original messages (I wasn't on this list when they > were posted) and you seem to be having problems above and beyond > anything that "Override Source Options" would cause. > > Since you've reverted to V4, let us know if your problem continues. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek > kowallek@iglou.com > > ****************** > > > ==== LEGACY Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, or to unsubscribe, or to view the > list archive, or for other list information, go to the web page at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/LEGACY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:26:47 -0400, "Sheila Chonko" <grami948@toledosuper.net> wrote: >Sorry, I'm not understanding your question totally so will try to explain. >I've been doing the GEDCOMs without the "Override Source Options" since the >beginning.... around 2000. I have a couple of the original GEDCOMs with the >information as that information was from a GEDCOM sent to me by someone else >several years ago. I have added to my own files significantly over the years >without realizing I had lost the information that I had entered from the >GEDCOM that was sent to me. I'm beginning to think that this option has nothing to do with the cause of your disappearing data. I went back to your original messages (I wasn't on this list when they were posted) and you seem to be having problems above and beyond anything that "Override Source Options" would cause. Since you've reverted to V4, let us know if your problem continues. -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Sorry, I'm not understanding your question totally so will try to explain. I've been doing the GEDCOMs without the "Override Source Options" since the beginning.... around 2000. I have a couple of the original GEDCOMs with the information as that information was from a GEDCOM sent to me by someone else several years ago. I have added to my own files significantly over the years without realizing I had lost the information that I had entered from the GEDCOM that was sent to me. Yes, I lost some of my own text detail over the years as well but didn't realize it until recently. I will reenter it as I can & just do the best humanly possible to update the files. I'm disappointed to have lost the information entered as its a significant amount however I still have it... just not in *my* program. That alone is a major postive. :) Many thanks & hopefully I explained things more clearly. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Kowallek" <kowallek@iglou.com> To: <LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing > On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:05:03 -0400, "Sheila Chonko" > <grami948@toledosuper.net> wrote: > >>I'm able to recreate some over time & have >>learned a lot in the process. Will take me awhile to get the files >>totally >>righted as its years of work lost that I didn't realize was gone. > > If this were the problem, you would only have lost data if you restored > your database from one of these faulty GEDCOMs. Is that what you did? > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek > kowallek@iglou.com > > ****************** > > > ==== LEGACY Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, or to unsubscribe, or to view the > list archive, or for other list information, go to the web page at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/LEGACY.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:05:03 -0400, "Sheila Chonko" <grami948@toledosuper.net> wrote: >I'm able to recreate some over time & have >learned a lot in the process. Will take me awhile to get the files totally >righted as its years of work lost that I didn't realize was gone. If this were the problem, you would only have lost data if you restored your database from one of these faulty GEDCOMs. Is that what you did? -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Yes, think this was my GEDCOM problem. I did use GEDCOMs as back-ups plus sent them to a number of people in an information swap. No one ever said anything about missing document text however I'm now finding alot of information lost that I originially thought was in my program. Blessedly most is in an old GEDCOM from another genealogy program so the information was saved. I was a total novice to the program & thought such things would be a default. I , however, will take full blame for not knowing about the "Override Source Options." I'm able to recreate some over time & have learned a lot in the process. Will take me awhile to get the files totally righted as its years of work lost that I didn't realize was gone. Things are what they are so its time to just deal with my files as they are. Hopefully everyone has learned something from this & our use of the program will be better. Many thanks to everyone! Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Kowallek" <kowallek@iglou.com> To: <LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing > On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:46:02 -0700, "Support" > <Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com> wrote: > >>Look at it this way, Dennis. A person may have source or detail text, >>comments, or even a source itself that they wish to remain private. By >>not >>selecting to add the info on reports, that's a good way of keeping it >>private. >> >>That privacy would be lost if the gedcom exported the data that one wished >>to suppress. Granted, they could use the double brackets [[ ]] for the >>text or comments, but not as readily for the source itself. > > Respectfully, I don't agree with the implementation. By default, the > detail won't get exported to a GEDCOM. And there are people who use > GEDCOMs for backup. > > I argued with Dave when this was implemented. Create a separate option > somewhere in Options>Customize (or on the GEDCOM Export window) that > says "Exclude Source Detail from GEDCOM Exports". Even default this to > checked if you like (please make it sticky if placed on the GEDCOM > Export window). But don't let a report option have anything to do with a > GEDCOM export. It just doesn't make sense to me. > > If this is Sheila's problem (we'll probably never know), than it won't > be the first time I've seen this implementation cause confusion. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek > kowallek@iglou.com > > ****************** > > > ==== LEGACY Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, or to unsubscribe, or to view the > list archive, or for other list information, go to the web page at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/LEGACY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Backing Up the file is a lot better way to protect your data than doing gedcoms, even if you send the backup to someone who doesn't use Legacy just to have it off-site for safe keeping. Go to http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Tips.asp, where you'll find an article under "Backing Up and Restoring Family Files" Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Sheila Chonko [mailto:grami948@toledosuper.net] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:05 AM To: LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing Yes, think this was my GEDCOM problem. I did use GEDCOMs as back-ups plus sent them to a number of people in an information swap. No one ever said anything about missing document text however I'm now finding alot of information lost that I originially thought was in my program. Blessedly most is in an old GEDCOM from another genealogy program so the information was saved. I was a total novice to the program & thought such things would be a default. I , however, will take full blame for not knowing about the "Override Source Options." I'm able to recreate some over time & have learned a lot in the process. Will take me awhile to get the files totally righted as its years of work lost that I didn't realize was gone. Things are what they are so its time to just deal with my files as they are. Hopefully everyone has learned something from this & our use of the program will be better. Many thanks to everyone! Sheila

After rebooting computer, Microsoft Office 2000 completed installation and I did successfully import my file and backed up the file without an error message. However, there was no internet connection at the time and I am wondering if my problems happen when I or my network connect to the Internet for some reason. Kindest regards, Beth G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Gay" <bethg@integrity.com> > Are their any Legacy users on this list that can help me with my problem? I > will email support after updating if the problem still exists. > After finally deciding to use Legacy my program does not work. I have the > update before last. I can open the program, and I successfully deleted a > family file. Then I imported a program via gedcom and when the gedcom import > screen appeared I got the out of memory message, error 7. This has occurred > several times in the last 3 days with different scenarios. I sent this > message to the Legacy list yesterday, but evidently the list is now down. > With Legacy open I have 715, 400K of physical memory and 1533 MB in the > paging file. I also have plenty of video memory, but cannot tell you the > exact amount. My operating system is Windows 2000P. I updated to Microsoft > Office 2000, before had 1997, just on the off chance that would solve my > problems, didn't think it would and that did not. > I have multiple genie programs on my computer and no problems with any of > the others crashing or shutting down. > Last evening when I restarted my computer, Legacy still did not work > correctly. If I shutdown the computer and open Legacy, it opens but usually > crashes if I perform any action. > How can I figure out what is causing this problem? > The version before that I had installed was from October 2005. I had a > problem with it crashing when performing a search via Legacy. When I > installed my latest version, I uninstalled Legacy and did a clean install. I > have a dial-up connection and do not download Legacy here. My son does it > for me at his college and forgot to get the latest update today. If you > think that will solve the problem, I will insist that he get the download > for me tomorrow. > Kindest regards, > Beth G.

Are their any Legacy users on this list that can help me with my problem? I will email support after updating if the problem still exists. After finally deciding to use Legacy my program does not work. I have the update before last. I can open the program, and I successfully deleted a family file. Then I imported a program via gedcom and when the gedcom import screen appeared I got the out of memory message, error 7. This has occurred several times in the last 3 days with different scenarios. I sent this message to the Legacy list yesterday, but evidently the list is now down. With Legacy open I have 715, 400K of physical memory and 1533 MB in the paging file. I also have plenty of video memory, but cannot tell you the exact amount. My operating system is Windows 2000P. I updated to Microsoft Office 2000, before had 1997, just on the off chance that would solve my problems, didn't think it would and that did not. I have multiple genie programs on my computer and no problems with any of the others crashing or shutting down. Last evening when I restarted my computer, Legacy still did not work correctly. If I shutdown the computer and open Legacy, it opens but usually crashes if I perform any action. How can I figure out what is causing this problem? The version before that I had installed was from October 2005. I had a problem with it crashing when performing a search via Legacy. When I installed my latest version, I uninstalled Legacy and did a clean install. I have a dial-up connection and do not download Legacy here. My son does it for me at his college and forgot to get the latest update today. If you think that will solve the problem, I will insist that he get the download for me tomorrow. I have decided that Legacy and my computer are not compatible but don't know why. FTL, Rootsmagic, PAF, Ancestral Quest, FTM, Genbox, Brother's Keeper, Relatively Yours, all ran without crashing. Kindest regards, Beth G.

Beth, The Legacy User Group is working quite well now - many listers who were previously unable to receive messages from the list are now reporting that that they're getting messages and your request for help to that list was received by the list and answered by myself. Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Solutions by Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error message. Make sure that you have updated Windows 2000 (In Internet Explorer, go to Tools > Windows Update). Legacy needs the latest version of MDAC and Jet Service Pack to operate correctly. Our Troubleshooting page is the first place anyone should go when receiving an error message or having a problem with Legacy. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Beth Gay [mailto:bethg@integrity.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:31 PM To: LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Out of memory error 7 Are their any Legacy users on this list that can help me with my problem? I will email support after updating if the problem still exists. After finally deciding to use Legacy my program does not work. I have the update before last. I can open the program, and I successfully deleted a family file. Then I imported a program via gedcom and when the gedcom import screen appeared I got the out of memory message, error 7. This has occurred several times in the last 3 days with different scenarios. I sent this message to the Legacy list yesterday, but evidently the list is now down. With Legacy open I have 715, 400K of physical memory and 1533 MB in the paging file. I also have plenty of video memory, but cannot tell you the exact amount. My operating system is Windows 2000P. I updated to Microsoft Office 2000, before had 1997, just on the off chance that would solve my problems, didn't think it would and that did not. I have multiple genie programs on my computer and no problems with any of the others crashing or shutting down. Last evening when I restarted my computer, Legacy still did not work correctly. If I shutdown the computer and open Legacy, it opens but usually crashes if I perform any action. How can I figure out what is causing this problem? The version before that I had installed was from October 2005. I had a problem with it crashing when performing a search via Legacy. When I installed my latest version, I uninstalled Legacy and did a clean install. I have a dial-up connection and do not download Legacy here. My son does it for me at his college and forgot to get the latest update today. If you think that will solve the problem, I will insist that he get the download for me tomorrow. I have decided that Legacy and my computer are not compatible but don't know why. FTL, Rootsmagic, PAF, Ancestral Quest, FTM, Genbox, Brother's Keeper, Relatively Yours, all ran without crashing. Kindest regards, Beth G.

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:46:02 -0700, "Support" <Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com> wrote: >Look at it this way, Dennis. A person may have source or detail text, >comments, or even a source itself that they wish to remain private. By not >selecting to add the info on reports, that's a good way of keeping it >private. > >That privacy would be lost if the gedcom exported the data that one wished >to suppress. Granted, they could use the double brackets [[ ]] for the >text or comments, but not as readily for the source itself. Respectfully, I don't agree with the implementation. By default, the detail won't get exported to a GEDCOM. And there are people who use GEDCOMs for backup. I argued with Dave when this was implemented. Create a separate option somewhere in Options>Customize (or on the GEDCOM Export window) that says "Exclude Source Detail from GEDCOM Exports". Even default this to checked if you like (please make it sticky if placed on the GEDCOM Export window). But don't let a report option have anything to do with a GEDCOM export. It just doesn't make sense to me. If this is Sheila's problem (we'll probably never know), than it won't be the first time I've seen this implementation cause confusion. -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Look at it this way, Dennis. A person may have source or detail text, comments, or even a source itself that they wish to remain private. By not selecting to add the info on reports, that's a good way of keeping it private. That privacy would be lost if the gedcom exported the data that one wished to suppress. Granted, they could use the double brackets [[ ]] for the text or comments, but not as readily for the source itself. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Kowallek [mailto:kowallek@iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:21 AM To: LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:06:43 -0700, "Support" <Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com> wrote: >When you created the gedcom, did you select "Override Source Options"? >If you don't have Detail Text selected to show on reports, it won't be >exported in the gedcom. You need to select this option to export *all* source data. I still think this was a terrible implementation decision. Report options should have nothing to do with GEDCOMs. <insert long sigh here> -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com

Thanks Sherry but I uninstalled v. 6 & reinstalled v. 4. I have had the Deluxe version of 4 & still not sure why I went with any of the higher versions. For some reason the higher I went, the more unstable the versions became. Thought at first it was my computer but ended up trying it on various computers that I have with different amounts of RAM. I kept having to reinstall with one headache after another. I love the Legacy program but honestly don't need all the multi-media bells & whistles. I want only a stable program in which I can enter my information as safely as possible. I've just decided to enter detail text in the Notes section & source that as well so I don't have to be concerned about the source text dissapearing. I love Legacy & am content with v. 4 so all worked out just fine for my needs. I'm sure there are numerous genealogy purists who feel I've done things right however sadly, I'm not horridly computer savvy when it comes to the improvements in the higher versions. Thus, I'm back to enjoying Legacy & have finished making all the entries that kept getting lost. I've learned a lot from the experience & came out quite content. Many thanks for the sugestion & will keep it on file. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Support" <Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com> To: <LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing > Sheila, > > I don't know if this has been answered - I lost track of the Legacy-L list > while we were dealing with our server problems here. > > When you created the gedcom, did you select "Override Source Options"? If > you don't have Detail Text selected to show on reports, it won't be > exported > in the gedcom. You need to select this option to export *all* source data. > > Thanks for using Legacy. > > Sherry > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > We are changing the world of genealogy! > > When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. > Thanks. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sheila Chonko [mailto:grami948@toledosuper.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:03 PM > To: LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing > > I've just lost a day's worth of work when I did a GEDCOM. I was making > source entires for census records & the text that I had entered totally > disappeared. It holds onto Detail Information but not Detail Text when I > do the GEDCOM. I still have the original file but really would like to > back > up this via GEDCOM as well as when I do a Family File backup. I'm > thinking > its just a setting but not about to tinker with the program yet again > without some input. Any thoughts (hopefully *very* basic steps) would be > appreciated. > > Sheila > > > ==== LEGACY Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, or to unsubscribe, or to view the > list archive, or for other list information, go to the web page at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/LEGACY.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:06:43 -0700, "Support" <Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com> wrote: >When you created the gedcom, did you select "Override Source Options"? If >you don't have Detail Text selected to show on reports, it won't be exported >in the gedcom. You need to select this option to export *all* source data. I still think this was a terrible implementation decision. Report options should have nothing to do with GEDCOMs. <insert long sigh here> -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Sheila, I don't know if this has been answered - I lost track of the Legacy-L list while we were dealing with our server problems here. When you created the gedcom, did you select "Override Source Options"? If you don't have Detail Text selected to show on reports, it won't be exported in the gedcom. You need to select this option to export *all* source data. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Sheila Chonko [mailto:grami948@toledosuper.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:03 PM To: LEGACY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Source text disappearing I've just lost a day's worth of work when I did a GEDCOM. I was making source entires for census records & the text that I had entered totally disappeared. It holds onto Detail Information but not Detail Text when I do the GEDCOM. I still have the original file but really would like to back up this via GEDCOM as well as when I do a Family File backup. I'm thinking its just a setting but not about to tinker with the program yet again without some input. Any thoughts (hopefully *very* basic steps) would be appreciated. Sheila

On 4 Jul 2006 Deb Wetlaufer wrote: > I'd like to capture the "town" that the city is in -- for example, > Port Rowan is in Walsingham Township in Norfolk County, Ontario, > Canada. > How should I log the "Walsingham Township" piece without throwing > off the appropriate formatting? Further to Dennis' and Jim's replies . . . I use as many parts in my locations as I feel they require and do not overly concern myself with Legacy's "appropriate" formatting. The "high order" or right to left sort was added to Legacy at my suggestion (and insistence) many years ago. However it was never fully implemented. The suggestion was that Legacy should process all locations internally in this format and that the City, State, etc. terms for the location parts be dropped. There are even a few locations in the USA that don't fit Legacy's overly-rigid 4-part format. Now, as Legacy is being promoted to international users, this rigid format and its terms are becoming an even greater issue that won't go away -- locations in some countries have only 2 parts and those users don't want to see a bunch of extraneous commas! Like you, I have some locations starting with the township and I have others with a preceding village name. I keep my location sort order set to "right to left" and I ensure that all locations contain the country name. I don't use print-outs so am not aware of any reports that may be affected by this but I don't believe it to be a factor. One feature of Legacy that *is* affected is the Geo Location Database which only uses the last 4 parts of the location (Note: this isn't yet loaded with our Canadian counties). Another feature that ties in with Geo is the Distance and Bearing Calculator which will only function if Geo can find the "City" in its database or you've previously entered the latitude and longitude for it. Geo contains Port Rowan as a "City" but doesn't contain Walsingham, so having Port Rowan as the 5th part of the location will prevent Geo from finding it. Geo cannot be modified by the users so it is not currently possible to add Walsingham twp. to it. So for full functionality of Legacy it *is* best to keep the "City" within the 4 highest-order location parts. Variable location parts are the norm in many other genealogy programs as well as in gedcoms, so transfers via gedcom are not affected by the use of more or less than 4 parts. One final thing . . . if, for some reason, you later find that you want to change the way you have your locations it should be a relatively simple matter to go through the Master Location List and edit them. But it's *not* so simple to add parts that you've tucked away in notes or other places. Good luck with whatever you decide. Cheers, -- Dave N. -- David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada. ---

Dennis Kowallek wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 16:06:35 -0700 (PDT), Deb Wetlaufer > <debi@wetlaufer.com> wrote: > > >> Port Rowan, Walsingham Township, Norfolk, Ontario, Canada >> >> How should I log the "Walsingham Township" piece without throwing off the appropriate formatting? Is there another field I can log this in? >> > > It depends on what you want to happen with this extra information. Do > you want it to appear in reports? Or do you just want it for your own > information? If you want it for your own information, you could just use > the Location Notes field. > > If you want it to appear in reports... > > What's wrong with Port Rowan, Walsingham Township, Norfolk, Ontario, > Canada? Legacy can handle locations with up to 9 parts. But you may want > to add a placeholder comma to all your other location names to make > sorting on the Master Location List work correctly. Such as... > > Cincinnati, , Hamilton, Ohio, USA > > This could be a lot of work depending on how many master locations you > have. > > Or you could just put it in the Short Location Name for those locations > that have a 5th part. Then use the Short Location name in your reports. > > Choose wisely! > > Legacy gives us a great feature for keeping place names together, regardless of the number of place name elements. We can choose to show place names sorted from last to first. If you choose this option, you can have something that looks like the following: USA, Ohio, Hamilton, Cincinnati USA, Ohio, Hamilton, Cincinnati, xyz Cemetery USA, Ohio, Hamilton, Cincinnati, xyz Cemetery, Plott 291 USA, Ohio, Hamilton, Cincinnati, xyz Cemetery, Plott 291, Quadrant 16 So, you can see that the number of place name elements does not need to be a fixed format to work well. Jim

On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 16:06:35 -0700 (PDT), Deb Wetlaufer <debi@wetlaufer.com> wrote: >Port Rowan, Walsingham Township, Norfolk, Ontario, Canada > >How should I log the "Walsingham Township" piece without throwing off the appropriate formatting? Is there another field I can log this in? It depends on what you want to happen with this extra information. Do you want it to appear in reports? Or do you just want it for your own information? If you want it for your own information, you could just use the Location Notes field. If you want it to appear in reports... What's wrong with Port Rowan, Walsingham Township, Norfolk, Ontario, Canada? Legacy can handle locations with up to 9 parts. But you may want to add a placeholder comma to all your other location names to make sorting on the Master Location List work correctly. Such as... Cincinnati, , Hamilton, Ohio, USA This could be a lot of work depending on how many master locations you have. Or you could just put it in the Short Location Name for those locations that have a 5th part. Then use the Short Location name in your reports. Choose wisely! -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

In Legacy I *should* log place names in this format: City, County, State, Country I'd like to capture the "town" that the city is in -- for example, Port Rowan is in Walsingham Township in Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada. Port Rowan, Walsingham Township, Norfolk, Ontario, Canada How should I log the "Walsingham Township" piece without throwing off the appropriate formatting? Is there another field I can log this in?

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