On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:43:06 +1100, "Jennifer Crockett" <jcrockett@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >It is good to know, but terribly obscure. I have been using Legacy for >years and either I am rather slow to catch on, or this is so hidden no >one would ever know. I would venture to say that if you weren't around for the discussion in the LUG several years ago, you probably wouldn't know of this "feature". >I would never have made the connection from Reports to Export. Which is one of the reasons I argued against it. -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:09:37 -0500, Dennis Kowallek <kowallek@iglou.com> wrote: >In my opinion, it has been designed bass-ackwards. The checkbox should >read "Honor Source Detail Options" and should default to unchecked. In addition, I recommended that this option be "sticky" (once checked it remains checked until unchecked by the user). -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:06:17 -0700, "Pat" <grani85@hotmail.com> wrote: >OH excuse me, there it is -- in the bottom 1/4 of the information! "Override Source Detail options - include everything - With this option selected, all the information from each source citation detail is exported to the GEDCOM file. If unselected, the information that is suppressed, according to the source detail options, is excluded from the GEDCOM export." The emphasis is mine. In my opinion, it has been designed bass-ackwards. The checkbox should read "Honor Source Detail Options" and should default to unchecked. I argued this with the programmers several years ago, but I lost that argument. And I rightly predicted that this would cause problems in the future. To this day I don't think they see this as a problem. I am glad that you were able to recover your data. I hope you learned that a Legacy GEDCOM is not the recommended way to backup your data. -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Sherry: You say: "Legacy's gedcom export will default to the options you have selected when you create your source." This statement is totally illogical given the definition of "default" -- 1. By definition a default option: is an option that is selected automatically unless an alternative is specified, or -- 2. Default in computer science refers to a setting or value automatically assigned to a computer program or device, outside of user intervention/ Without source information it is almost a given that you will never be able to reconstruct your database to its original state without outside help. (Hopefully from online cuzins with whom you've shared data.) And, no, I am not going to upload any site online given my propensity to poke the wrong buttons. With sourcing information you would be able to reconstruct the database -- surely a very time consuming proposition but it could be done. Why is it that Legacy has user-defined options for: privitizing persons, excluding persons from problem reports right out there with those little check off boxes but the changing of exporting of sourcing to a user-defined option-- which by definition removes it from being a *default*--is hidden from view. >From the "Exporting GEDCOM Files: A Legacy GEDCOM file contains ALL the information that can be entered into a Legacy family file. This includes all individual field information; all notes; all sources**; all events; LDS ordinance dates and temples; pictures; sound; video; list ordering and tags; as well as preferred children; spouses; and parents." By your own account this is not true unless you CHOOSE it -- there is no mention of a default here. OH excuse me, there it is -- in the bottom 1/4 of the information! "Override Source Detail options - include everything - With this option selected, all the information from each source citation detail is exported to the GEDCOM file. If unselected, the information that is suppressed, according to the source detail options, is excluded from the GEDCOM export." The emphasis is mine. Even when I imported the gedcom created by Legacy it could not find many marriage records -- it couldn't read the file that it created properly. The Family Origins program and updates *never* had any problems or created any...from the DOS days thru to transitioning to Windows 3.0 when one had to rekey the information. At that time the number of records was only in the hundreds...not tens of thousands. If RootsMagic EVER has a method of rapidly duplicating the sourcing information, methinks I would rapidly jump ship and return to their fold. Not that I hadn't tried other programs (PAF, FTM [aaaargh]. This certainly opened my eyes to a huge unmentioned difference--there isn't even a readme file in which one would expect this "default" difference to be strongly highlighted. "We are changing the world of genealogy!" Yep, you *almost* changed mine. And, why didn't you address the other problem in now trying to merge these two databases with minimal problems? Again, whoever the original poster to the list is/was -- I thank you; I am indebted to you. I found your posting by browsing the archives for quite a while. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Support To: legacy@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Thank you, thank you and additional input needed please That's not quite true. Legacy's gedcom export will default to the options you have selected when you create your source. If you have not selected to include information on reports, it won't be included in exports either, whether you're exporting to a new Family File or to a gedcom. That's the reason behind the option on the Export window to "Override Source options - include all source information" This is explained in the Help file (just click on the context-sensitive Help button in the Export window) "Override Source Detail options - include everything With this option selected, all the information from each source citation detail is exported to the GEDCOM file. If unselected, the information that is suppressed, according to the source detail options, is excluded from the GEDCOM export." Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:34 PM To: LEGACY@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Thank you, thank you and additional input needed please Thank you to whoever it was who posted that Legacy's output to a Gedcom would default to NO sourcing. You have saved me many, many hours trying to fix a horrible accident. <snip> Note to Legacy -- hmmm the default to the industry standard for gedcoms would be to **eliminate/drop** ALL sources/sourcing?!?!?! My main reason for switching from Family Origins/RootsMagic in the first place was the ease in duplicating sourcing -- NOW you say the export would drop that information...25 yrs. of research would be GONE?!?! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEGACY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's not quite true. Legacy's gedcom export will default to the options you have selected when you create your source. If you have not selected to include information on reports, it won't be included in exports either, whether you're exporting to a new Family File or to a gedcom. That's the reason behind the option on the Export window to "Override Source options - include all source information" This is explained in the Help file (just click on the context-sensitive Help button in the Export window) "Override Source Detail options - include everything With this option selected, all the information from each source citation detail is exported to the GEDCOM file. If unselected, the information that is suppressed, according to the source detail options, is excluded from the GEDCOM export." Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:34 PM To: LEGACY@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Thank you, thank you and additional input needed please Thank you to whoever it was who posted that Legacy's output to a Gedcom would default to NO sourcing. You have saved me many, many hours trying to fix a horrible accident. <snip> Note to Legacy -- hmmm the default to the industry standard for gedcoms would be to **eliminate/drop** ALL sources/sourcing?!?!?! My main reason for switching from Family Origins/RootsMagic in the first place was the ease in duplicating sourcing -- NOW you say the export would drop that information...25 yrs. of research would be GONE?!?!

What was the name of the recovery program ? - Tim -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:34 PM To: LEGACY@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Thank you, thank you and additional input needed please Thank you to whoever it was who posted that Legacy's output to a Gedcom would default to NO sourcing. You have saved me many, many hours trying to fix a horrible accident. I just purchased a newer data recovery program which not only recovered my files from my triple re-formatted hard drive but recovered them with their *original* names. (None of the batch re-naming of files as with the other recovery program I had been using.) I imported the gedcom I had created just before the crash in 10/04. I thought I was in 7th heaven....NOT. BUT, I had also recovered the backup files and the database files as well; so I was saved. So, thank you, thank you for saving my database from a horrible demise. The new problem presenting itself is: HOW to merge my newly rebuilt database with over 21,000 names with the recovered database with over 31,000 names with the least amount of problems. Ideas, suggestions, and all helpful insights are most welcome. Note to Legacy -- hmmm the default to the industry standard for gedcoms would be to **eliminate/drop** ALL sources/sourcing?!?!?! My main reason for switching from Family Origins/RootsMagic in the first place was the ease in duplicating sourcing -- NOW you say the export would drop that information...25 yrs. of research would be GONE?!?! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEGACY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:34:05 -0700, "Pat" <grani85@hotmail.com> wrote: >Note to Legacy -- hmmm the default to the industry standard for gedcoms would be to **eliminate/drop** ALL sources/sourcing?!?!?! My main reason for switching from Family Origins/RootsMagic in the first place was the ease in duplicating sourcing -- NOW you say the export would drop that information...25 yrs. of research would be GONE?!?! I don't think there is any such thing as an "industry standard" as far as what to include/exclude in a GEDCOM. However, I have always argued against the change that was made by the Legacy developers several years which made including sources in GEDCOMs confusing at best. -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Thank you to whoever it was who posted that Legacy's output to a Gedcom would default to NO sourcing. You have saved me many, many hours trying to fix a horrible accident. I just purchased a newer data recovery program which not only recovered my files from my triple re-formatted hard drive but recovered them with their *original* names. (None of the batch re-naming of files as with the other recovery program I had been using.) I imported the gedcom I had created just before the crash in 10/04. I thought I was in 7th heaven....NOT. BUT, I had also recovered the backup files and the database files as well; so I was saved. So, thank you, thank you for saving my database from a horrible demise. The new problem presenting itself is: HOW to merge my newly rebuilt database with over 21,000 names with the recovered database with over 31,000 names with the least amount of problems. Ideas, suggestions, and all helpful insights are most welcome. Note to Legacy -- hmmm the default to the industry standard for gedcoms would be to **eliminate/drop** ALL sources/sourcing?!?!?! My main reason for switching from Family Origins/RootsMagic in the first place was the ease in duplicating sourcing -- NOW you say the export would drop that information...25 yrs. of research would be GONE?!?!

Sherry, This is also happening to me and has been for several builds (can't really say how long). I am using build 118 in Windows XP SP2 updated weekly via Windows Update. This is happening in all my family files including the Sample file. For example: Asa Danial Brown [24]. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry/Support" <Sherry@LegacyFamilyTree.com> To: <legacy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Individual Report > Claire, > > Which build of Legacy are you using (go to Help > General Information or, > in > Legacy v6 the Legacy Home tab)? Please give me the full version number > and > date. > > Thanks for using Legacy. > > Sherry > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > We are changing the world of genealogy! > > When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. > Thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Claire Spinelli > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:56 PM > To: legacy@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LEGACY] Individual Report > > This is such a trivial thing, but it bothers me. > > When I include the "cause of death" field in an individual report, the > cells > beneath that field (event name, description, etc) has a horizontal line > through the center of the whole row. > > Does anybody know why and, more importantly, how I can get rid of it? > > Thanks! > > Claire > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEGACY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Claire, I'm not seeing the lines. I'm going to write to you off-list about this. I'm going to need to get a couple of files from you so I can better troubleshoot. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire Spinelli Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:25 PM To: legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Individual Report Installed Version: 6.0.0.118 Installed: 7 Dec 2006 -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:12 PM To: legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Individual Report Claire, Which build of Legacy are you using (go to Help > General Information or, in Legacy v6 the Legacy Home tab)? Please give me the full version number and date. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire Spinelli Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:56 PM To: legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Individual Report This is such a trivial thing, but it bothers me. When I include the "cause of death" field in an individual report, the cells beneath that field (event name, description, etc) has a horizontal line through the center of the whole row. Does anybody know why and, more importantly, how I can get rid of it? Thanks! Claire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEGACY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEGACY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Installed Version: 6.0.0.118 Installed: 7 Dec 2006 -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:12 PM To: legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEGACY] Individual Report Claire, Which build of Legacy are you using (go to Help > General Information or, in Legacy v6 the Legacy Home tab)? Please give me the full version number and date. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire Spinelli Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:56 PM To: legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Individual Report This is such a trivial thing, but it bothers me. When I include the "cause of death" field in an individual report, the cells beneath that field (event name, description, etc) has a horizontal line through the center of the whole row. Does anybody know why and, more importantly, how I can get rid of it? Thanks! Claire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEGACY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Claire, Which build of Legacy are you using (go to Help > General Information or, in Legacy v6 the Legacy Home tab)? Please give me the full version number and date. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire Spinelli Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:56 PM To: legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Individual Report This is such a trivial thing, but it bothers me. When I include the "cause of death" field in an individual report, the cells beneath that field (event name, description, etc) has a horizontal line through the center of the whole row. Does anybody know why and, more importantly, how I can get rid of it? Thanks! Claire

This is such a trivial thing, but it bothers me. When I include the "cause of death" field in an individual report, the cells beneath that field (event name, description, etc) has a horizontal line through the center of the whole row. Does anybody know why and, more importantly, how I can get rid of it? Thanks! Claire

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:02:32 -0500, Donna <dkcooper6@comcast.net> wrote: >Hi, >I have recently stated using Legacy. Occasionally >when trying to navigate the options I get this: >Run-Time Error '400' Form already displayed; Can't >show modally. >When I click the "OK" button, the whole program >shuts down & I have to re-open, & start over. Any >suggestions? Take a look at... http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpError400.asp -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Sorry, chaps, I'm stuck again. I've done everything I've been told to do and apparently set up a CD using Passage Express, containing my large Legacy file. I then load it into a kinsman's PC, which is NOT connected to the Internet, and Passage Express says: It appears you don't have the software to view Legacy files. Would you like to visit the Legacy software web site? "Well," my kinsman says, "that's all very well, but I neither have nor want an internet connection. Nor do I particularly want to buy Legacy. So what do I do next?" I shouldn't think Legacy would like me to give my kinsman a bootleg copy of the legal copy Legacy 6 De Luxe which I have paid for - so what version of Legacy can I legally download & give him to sort out this problem, please? Regards Don Montague No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.10/651 - Release Date: 24/01/2007 18:48

Don, In order to view a Legacy Family File, you have to have Legacy installed. Please feel free to share the Legacy Standard Edition with anyone you wish. When you download it for him, make sure that you select "Download Full Setup" as the "Install from the Web" option will require an internet connection. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Montague Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:10 AM To: legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Another Passage Express Problem Sorry, chaps, I'm stuck again. I've done everything I've been told to do and apparently set up a CD using Passage Express, containing my large Legacy file. I then load it into a kinsman's PC, which is NOT connected to the Internet, and Passage Express says: It appears you don't have the software to view Legacy files. Would you like to visit the Legacy software web site? "Well," my kinsman says, "that's all very well, but I neither have nor want an internet connection. Nor do I particularly want to buy Legacy. So what do I do next?" I shouldn't think Legacy would like me to give my kinsman a bootleg copy of the legal copy Legacy 6 De Luxe which I have paid for - so what version of Legacy can I legally download & give him to sort out this problem, please? Regards Don Montague

Donna, Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Solutions by Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error message. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:03 AM To: Legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Run-Time Error '400' Hi, I have recently stated using Legacy. Occasionally when trying to navigate the options I get this: Run-Time Error '400' Form already displayed; Can't show modally. When I click the "OK" button, the whole program shuts down & I have to re-open, & start over. Any suggestions? Thanks, Donna

Hm, what else is running? Legacy makes use of a lot of DLLs, refers to other programs, and I just wondering if another program is already accessing a program Legacy is trying to use. Robert -----Original Message----- From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Donna Sent: 2007-01-25 13:03 To: Legacy@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEGACY] Run-Time Error '400' Hi, I have recently stated using Legacy. Occasionally when trying to navigate the options I get this: Run-Time Error '400' Form already displayed; Can't show modally. When I click the "OK" button, the whole program shuts down & I have to re-open, & start over. Any suggestions? Thanks, Donna

Hi, I have recently stated using Legacy. Occasionally when trying to navigate the options I get this: Run-Time Error '400' Form already displayed; Can't show modally. When I click the "OK" button, the whole program shuts down & I have to re-open, & start over. Any suggestions? Thanks, Donna

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:22:33 -0800, "Support" <Support@LegacyFamilyTree.com> wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:legacy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Dennis Kowallek >Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:09 AM >To: LEGACY@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [LEGACY] New to Legacy > >On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:32:15 -0000, "Jim Isard" ><jim.isard@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>(1) If I pay for it to be downloaded on my PC can I copy it to my >>laptop which is not connected to the internet > >You should download the full install of Legacy Standard and then copy what >you download to the laptop. Then run that installation program on the >laptop. When you pay for the deluxe version, you will be sent a key. >Just use the key to "unlock" Legacy on the laptop. As I recall, the license >agreement allows you to purchase a single key for both computers. > ><snip> > >To avoid confusion - do *not* copy the *installed* Legacy folder from one >computer to another. Download the *setup* file Legacy6Setup.exe and use >that to install on the laptop. Also, make sure you select the "Download >Full Setup" option. The "Install from the Web" option is a smaller file but >requires that you connect to the internet to install. That is what I tried to say. ;-) -- Dennis Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************