Note: I see no proof that Stern has the lineage listed accurately. What brought you to this conclusion? Many Lee researchers put credibility in Dr. Paul C. Nagel's (a university professor and author of several history books) research and conclusion about the parentage of Richard Lee. Margaret Lee Bardgett [email protected] wrote: LEE-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 75 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [LEE] Va Lee's ["ted d jones" #2 Re: [LEE] Va Lee's ["John & Elnora Wyrick" #3 Abel & William Lee ["John & Elnora Wyrick" Administrivia: --- For future reference...To unsubscribe from the Digest mode of the LEE mailing list, send only the word Unsubscribe in the subject line and in the body of an email to... [email protected] Please contact me at [email protected] with any comments, questions or problems you may have regarding your subscription. Thanks, LEE Mailing List Mgr. - List Information Page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/lee.html Remember to include these five basic items in your posts to the list: WHO (complete name), WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), WHERE (did these folks live?)and HOW (can we reach you?). --- ______________________________Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:46:55 -0400 From: "ted d jones" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] Va Lee's Stern HAS IT right. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Medicine Woman" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: [LEE] Va Lee's Board : Boards > Surnames > Lee Subject : Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees Author : Duane Miller Date : 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QIw.2ACIB/7428 Boards > Surnames > Lee URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.lee&m=7428 Subject: Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees Author: Duane Miller Date: 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT Email: [email protected] - -----------------------------------------------------I have the books "Robert E Lee, The Man, The Soldier, by Philip Van Doren Stern" and " The Lees of Virginia, Seven Generations of an American Family, by Paul C Nagel" and both tell me different on Richard Lee's parents. Stern says that Richard's parents are Richard Lee and Elizabeth Bendy and Nagel says John Lee and Jane Hancock. It did dawn on me however that Richard Lee and Anna Constable had a son named Hancock which if I were to go by naming paterns I'd lean more towards the John Lee Jane Hancock theory. I also found these this webpage that isn't any more helpful than the books, http://www.btinternet.com/~ALANSPAGE/Alstalk.htm There is a letter there (1745 Copy of a Letter from Lancelot Lee of England to the Hon.Thomas Lee, President of the Colony of Virginia, dated Coton, Shropshire, May 21st, 1745 - from "The King's Lea, p.131-133 by Gladys Howard Thompson) which makes me agree with only one fact from all three of these sources and that is the mention of Reyner de Lega in the books and the mention of a "High Sheriff" which is probably Reyner mentioned in the letter are connectected to the Virginoian Richard Lee somehow. One other thing in the Lancelot letter that makes me wonder is he says, "Your ancestor, Richard, you see, was the sixth son, so that he must have been at least that number of years younger than his brother Thomas. By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard Lee, both having estates in England and Virginia." All Richard Lee (founder of the Virginia Lees) researchers know that he came to Virginia in 1639/40 so what was the reason for Lancelot saying "By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard Lee", did he mean 1639/40 instead of 1616 which is about the time the Virginian Richard was born or did his father come to Virginia as well? So with all that I ask, does anyone know who the Virginian Richard Lee's parents are. With all the different information I've see I have no idea how anyone can make a connection to Rayner de Lega. Thanks in advance for any replies and sorry for a long post.Duane Miller Six Lakes MI __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ==== LEE Mailing List ==== When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the LEE message board, be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. Since the poster might not be a member of our LEE mailing list, they may only see your response when it is made through the board. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick; John G Lee>Peter Alexander Lee>John William Lee> VA to TX; ----- Original Message ----- From: "ted d jones" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [LEE] Va Lee's > Stern HAS IT right. > > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Medicine Woman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:44 PM > Subject: [LEE] Va Lee's > > > Board : Boards > Surnames > Lee > Subject : Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees > Author : Duane Miller > Date : 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QIw.2ACIB/7428 > > Boards > Surnames > Lee > URL: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.lee&m=7428 > > > Subject: Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees > Author: Duane Miller > Date: 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT > Email: [email protected] > -------------------------------------------------------I > have the books "Robert E Lee, The Man, The Soldier, by > Philip Van Doren Stern" and " The Lees of Virginia, > Seven Generations of an American Family, by Paul C > Nagel" and both tell me different on Richard Lee's > parents. Stern says that Richard's parents are Richard > Lee and Elizabeth Bendy and Nagel says John Lee and > Jane Hancock. It did dawn on me however that Richard > Lee and Anna Constable had a son named Hancock which > if I were to go by naming paterns I'd lean more > towards the John Lee Jane Hancock theory. I also found > these this webpage that isn't any more helpful than > the books, > http://www.btinternet.com/~ALANSPAGE/Alstalk.htm > > There is a letter there (1745 Copy of a Letter from > Lancelot Lee of England to the Hon.Thomas Lee, > President of the Colony of Virginia, dated Coton, > Shropshire, May 21st, 1745 - from "The King's Lea, > p.131-133 by Gladys Howard Thompson) which makes me > agree with only one fact from all three of these > sources and that is the mention of Reyner de Lega in > the books and the mention of a "High Sheriff" which is > probably Reyner mentioned in the letter are > connectected to the Virginoian Richard Lee somehow. > One other thing in the Lancelot letter that makes me > wonder is he says, "Your ancestor, Richard, you see, > was the sixth son, so that he must have been at least > that number of years younger than his brother Thomas. > By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time > you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle > aged and father of Col. Richard Lee, both having > estates in England and Virginia." All Richard Lee > (founder of the Virginia Lees) researchers know that > he came to Virginia in 1639/40 so what was the reason > for Lancelot saying "By this computation, in the year > 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he > must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard > Lee", did he mean 1639/40 instead of 1616 which is > about the time the Virginian Richard was born or did > his father come to Virginia as well? So with all that > I ask, does anyone know who the Virginian Richard > Lee's parents are. With all the different information > I've see I have no idea how anyone can make a > connection to Rayner de Lega. > > Thanks in advance for any replies and sorry for a long > post.Duane Miller Six Lakes MI > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:10:13 -0700 From: "John & Elnora Wyrick" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Abel & William Lee Does anyone know anything about or claim the Abel and William Lee found on the 1820 & 1830 in Patrick County, VA?? Are these the same as the 2 above? William was there again in 1840, but not Abel- then Abel was there in 1850 and not William?? Thanks for any help, Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick Yesterday is a memory, Tomorrow is a dream, Today is a Gift John & Elnora Cook-Wyrick Families; http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/y/r/Elnora--F-Wyrick/