In a message dated 5/15/04 9:18:46 AM, [email protected] writes: << You Have No Info To Out Number DAR or LDS Church , >> _________________________ All, If you are tired of this interchange on the subject of Richard Henry LEE, give me a nudge. It seems that my partner in this discussion thinks that both DAR and LDS are primary evidence. My understanding is that they are repositories of individual research. LDS makes no claim of justifying the in put they receive and print. DAR does make an effort to assure that the accepted in put is valid. Neither of these organizations offer in and of them selves the best evidence. Are there mistakes? Of course, but it is the responsibility of a researcher to identify the error, explain why it is an error, offer evidence to justify the correction, and then communicate the case to those of interest. The error in citing of Colonel Richard Henry LEE at Stony Point and Paulus Hook in 1779 in The West Point Atlas of American Wars, Vol. 1, is fairly obvious and the facts are easy to prove. There seems to be disagreement, therefore I find that a strong case to justify the citation needs to be made if the citation is to stand. A factual rebuttal is needed. It has not been forthcoming. Best regards, Hugh

Lee researchers, There seems to be some confusion about Colonel Richard Henry LEE and Stony Point. It has been revealed the senior officer named LEE at both Stony Point and Paulus Hook, 15-16 July 1779 and 19 August 1779, respectively was Major Henry/Harry LEE. According to research, The West Point Atlas of American Wars, Vol. 1, pub'd 1959 erroneously stated the officer was Colonel Richard Henry LEE. My point is that the wrong LEE was identified in the Atlas. There may have been one or more Richard Henry LEEs at these actions in a lesser capacity and of lesser rank, but research has not found him as yet. I would invite anyone with knowledge of either LEEs or the said battles to offer their views. Best regards, Hugh

All: I don't know Mr. Husma personally, but have seen his meticulous work regarding Lee Genealogy for the past six or seven years. He is thorough, he is persistent, and he does great work. He is also exceedingly polite in his communications. I also don't know this person who has chosen to attack Mr. Husma and his work. But it seems that he/she is none of the above, and is therefore consigned to the killfile on my computer. I suggest that all do the same. Dennis Lee

Hugh, Do you have any information/documentation regarding the (questionable) relationship between Elizabeth Lee (1800), daughter of John RWS Lee and Light Horse Harry Lee? I have seen references to a "common-law marriage" and possibility of him being the father of her son, James Jackson Lee, however I have seen no concrete proof (other than what Huxford says). I have been told it is all "hogwash"...and would appreciate your input. Thanks much, Lorraine

In a message dated 5/14/04 1:11:28 PM, [email protected] writes: << Subject: Fw: The West Point Atlas of American Wars, Volume I 1689-1900 > NOW READ Mr. HUGH Newest History Info and He Uncrossed West Point ATLAS of > AMERICAN WAR Vol. 1 1689-1900 . The Book Also Listed Maj. Gen. Charles Lee > Born In England As Leader . {{ CHECK IT OUT and LEARN The Lee's of Va. > Family Links and HISTORY Letters. He Also Tryed : The George W. Lee > Family Letter and Att At LAW PETER JOHNSON Davenport and Rachel H. > Davenport's Family Letters and The Standing/Dated Headstone of Mary Agnes > Lee Was WRONG Trick !!! My Point is YES 100% ::: a Lesson-even printed > in History books can be in Error :: BUT I Proved 3 Great Lines Of The Great > Lee's Of Va. All Married As History Told By Genealogist ::: NOW Col. > Richard Henry Lee Of The Battle Of Stoney Point New York {{ Odd ! } NO The > Major Of NEW York was William Few Jr. that Married Cathertine Wheeler }. Is > Full Sister Elizabeth FEW Married Thomas Greenberry Lee Jr. { The Grabd Son > of Col. Richard Henry Lee Of Stoney Point New York Battle . { AS The > History Books LISTED }. Now Prove The Books Wright or Wrong ???? Mr. > Hugh Letter is NOT a Record of Truth or a Person Of Ture Undertanding Of The > LEE'S Of Va. . ERN >> _______________________ All, There are several subjects addressed in the above message. Issue 1. Was there a Colonel Richard Henry LEE at the 15-16 July 1779 raid at Stony Poiny, NY? The evidence so far says NO. The LEE at both Stony Point and Paulus Hook, NJ (19 July 1779) was Major Henry "Light Horse Harry" LEE. There is no evidence of a Colonel Richard Henry LEE who was involved in these action. Major Henry LEE was awarded a gold medal by the Continental Congress for his leadership in the successful raid on Paulus Hook. Issue 2. Major General Charles LEE (formerly of the British Army) offered his services to the cause of American Independence after he retire from the British Army and came to live in America (Virginia). The Continental Congress accepted his offer and gave him the rank of Major General and the second ranking officer after General George Washington. General Charles LEE disgraced himself by his lack of action at the Battle of Monmouth, NJ after being prompted to act by Washington. Later he publicly criticized Washington which lost Washington's confidence in him and he was admonished and sent on leave never to be recalled to duty. He died in Philadelphia, PA. There is no known genealogical connection of this Charles LEE and the LEEs of Virginia. Issue 3. The badly weathered tombstone of M. A. LEE, wife of T. C/G. LEE dated 17_4 in Hawkins Co., TN is subject to reasonable inquiry. Photographic evidence in possession of several researchers including myself read the stone as 1784. There was a Martha Ann LEE who died in 1784 and was married to a Thomas C. LEE of Hawkins Co., TN. The C or G lettering on the stone is also questionable. In the same graveyard close at hand is a sister of Martha Ann which tends to support the contention that the stone is that of Martha Ann rather than Mary Agnes. There is no evidence yet that a Thomas G. ever existed in Hawkins Co., TN except as a variation of the Thomas C. previously mentioned. This issue is unresolved. Issue 4. The assertion that there was a Thomas Greenberry LEE who married his first cousin, Mary Agnes LEE, and they had a son, Thomas Greenberry LEE, Jr., who married Elizabeth FEW is also unproved If it were, a lot of mystery would be removed from this LEE family. The problem is connecting Greenberry LEE who married in 1774 Elizabeth FEW in Richmond Co., GA to the LEE family discussed above. Issue 5. Since there was no Colonel Richard Henry LEE at Stony Point in 1779, it follows that his grandson, alleged to be Colonel Greenberry LEE of GA, should be questioned also. There was a Richard Henry LEE of Buckingham Co., VA who may have been a Colonel in the RW but no evidence has been presented. He is the alleged father of Mary Agnes LEE who has been presented as the mother of Thomas Greenberry LEE, Jr. It is a neat package which feeds on the lack of any proof. Incidentally, there was another Richard Henry LEE who was prominent in the politics of the RW but was not a soldier. Issue 6. William FEW, Jr. was an alderman in NYC for one year but was never its mayor. He was a prominent lawyer, banker and administrator who married Catherine Nicholdson. His father, William FEW, Sr., married Catherine Wheeler. William FEW, Sr. and wife died in GA. William FEW, Jr. and his wife died in NY and were initially buried there. He and his wife's remains were removed to GA upon the request of GA to honor him. as a signer of the Constitution for GA. Issue 7. Pronouncing and Proving are different ways of presentation. We have had a lot of Pronouncing and very little of Proving. Best regards, Hugh

In a message dated 5/12/2004 7:05:25 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lesson-even history books can be in error. Best regards, Hugh INDEED THEY CAN! THANKS FOR PRESENTING THE EVIDENCE, HUGH. K.

Recently I wrote to the United States Military Academy History Department to clarify a statement made in The West Point Atlas of American Wars, Volume I, 1959. The text with Map 7, The Revolutionary War, states in part: "Instead, he [Washington] launched Brig. Gen. Anthony Wayne and Col. Richard Henry Lee in successful raids against Stony Point and Paulus Hook." Underlining is that of the message writer. The USMA History Dept. replied as follows: "The officer at Stony Point was Henry "Light Horse Harry" Lee. Presumably the atlas got him confused with the VA revolutionary leader Richard Henry Lee." General Washington did have Brig. Gen. Anthony Wayne conduct a raid on Stony Point (15-16 July 1779) for which Major Henry/Harry Lee provided security. However, the recognized commander and hero of the raid on Paulus Hook (August 1779) was this same Major Henry/Harry Lee for which action Major Henry Lee received a gold medal from the Continental Congress. There was no Colonel Richard Henry Lee in command at either action. I raise this point to rebut the erroneous claims of others that there was a Richard Henry Lee in command at these actions. Lesson-even history books can be in error. Best regards, Hugh

Lorraine: Thanks for your kind assistance, Lynda Green Quoting Lorraine <[email protected]>: > Hi Lynda, > > I can refer you to the site: http://stratfordhall.org/thomas.html > Thomas Lee of Stratford, 1690-1750: > Founder of a Virginia Dynasty. > >

Hi Lynda, I can refer you to the site: http://stratfordhall.org/thomas.html Thomas Lee of Stratford, 1690-1750: Founder of a Virginia Dynasty. There you will find many family members including Henry Lee and his brothers, Thomas Lee and Richard the scholar Lee (his oldest brother). It also mentions a sister, however I found no mention of her name. There are also sources given for the information contained in the site. The is the official site of Stratford Hall and contains much interesting information. I hope this helps. Lorraine At 08:41 AM 5/10/2004, you wrote: >Does anyone have a proven list oF SIBLINGS for the HENRY LEE, b. 1730 (Lee >Hall, VA), d. 1787? These would be Gen. Robert E. Lee's great uncles. >Thank you in advance for your assistance, >Lynda

Does anyone have a proven list oF SIBLINGS for the HENRY LEE, b. 1730 (Lee Hall, VA), d. 1787? These would be Gen. Robert E. Lee's great uncles. Thank you in advance for your assistance, Lynda

Hi Marla, I am not Hugh, however, according to rootsweb.com/-vessell/lee.htm....Lineage of General Robert E. Lee, I show the following regarding Henry "Light-Horse Harry" Lee: Parents: Henry Lee b. 1730 (Lee Hall, Va) d. 1787 Lucy Grymes b. 4/26/1734 (Richmond Co., Va) d. 1792 Children: Henry (Light-Horse Harry) Lee b. 1/29/1756 d. 3/25/1815/18 Charles Lee b. 1758 d. 6/24/1815 Richard Bland Lee b. 1761 d. 1827 Mary Lee b. 1764 d. 1827 Theodorick Lee b. 1766 d. 1849 Edmund Jennings Lee b. 1772 d. 1843 Lucy Lee b. 1774 d. 1775-1868 Anne Lee b. 1776 d. 1857 Please be sure to double check this information...I'm sure Hugh has more thorough information. Hope this helps you some. I do not remember seeing the name Drury Lee in this lineage...but it could be there. Lorraine At 08:09 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: >Hugh, Do you have a list of the siblings of "Light Horse Harry" Lee.

All, I've spent quite a bit of time over the last few years running down my Lee ancestry. I've got two Lee lines that go back to John Lee, Esq. from his descendants - Needham Lee and Frederick Lee, Jr. - who migrated to Alabama. I'm now working on my son-in-law's ancestry to complete the other side of my grandson's family tree. And - surprise! - I'm now looking at another Lee family connection. My son-in-law's mother is the granddaughter of Andrew Lee and Mary Frances Strange. He was born in AL in 1856 and she was born in AL about 1865. My problem comes with the fact that there are two Andrew Lee's born in AL in 1856. One is the son of a John C. Lee, out of Bibb County. The other is the son of Perry Hale Lee and, thus, the grandson of Needham Lee. The latter is from Shelby County. The counties are adjacent. On rootsweb's WorldConnect, I find gedcom records of an Andrew Lee who married Mary Frances Staggers. These records say he died in 1923 and she in 1956, both in Shelby County. The Census records show Andrew and Mary F. Lee in 1920. Mary is a widow in 1930. In 1930, my son-in-law's mother is on the Census with her parents, Buford Moore and Evie Mae Lee Moore. Also in the household is an uncle, Jessie B. Strange. I don't think I'm stretching logic too far in surmising that Mary Frances Strange and Mary Frances Staggers are the same person. If there's anyone who has information on this Andrew Lee and his wife Mary F. Strange/Staggers, I would most appreciate anything you'd be willing to share. Jim Nix Birmingham, AL

Hugh, Do you have a list of the siblings of "Light Horse Harry" Lee. There have been several family members who have suggested that my Drury Lee from the Carolinas in the mid 1700s is related to this Harry Lee. Thanks, Marla

Any relationship with Sgt. Wm Lee of the American Revolution...son of Richard Lee and Mary Gresham of Buckingham Co., VA to Green Co., KY? Marsha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 6:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [LEE] "LIGHT-HORSE HARRY" LEE . . 3 HENRY LEE b. 1691 d. 25 AUG 1747 m. UNK MARY BLAND b. 21 Aug 1704 d. 1764 . . . 4 HENRY LEE b. 1729 d. 1787 m. 1 DEC 1753 LUCY GRYMES b. 26 APR 1734 d. 1792 . . . . 5 HENRY "LIGHT-HORSE HARRY" LEE b. 29 JAN 1756 d. 25 MAR 1818 m1. APR 1782 MATILDA LEE b. 1764 d. 1790 . . . . . m2. 18 JUN 1793 ANN HILL CARTER b. 1773 d. 26 JUL 1829 ________________ Best regards, Hugh ==== LEE Mailing List ==== Please contact me at [email protected] with any comments, questions or problems you may have regarding your subscription. Thanks, Manager, LEE Mailing List List Info Page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/lee.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

This hero, Colonel William FEW, Jr. of the RW-GA has been misrepresented as a Mayor of New York City which he never was. He is connected to the LEEs by marriage of his sister, Elizabeth, to Colonel (RW) Greenberry LEE of Richmond Co., GA ____________ WILLIAM FEW (son of Wm. and Mary (Wheeler) FEW of Harford, Maryland) Image: National Archives, Records of Exposition, Anniversary, and Memorial Commissions (148-CP-157) <<Few was born in 1748. His father's family had emigrated from England to Pennsylvania in the 1680s, but the father had subsequently moved to Maryland, where he married and settled on a farm near Baltimore. William was born there. He encountered much hardship and received minimal schooling. When he was 10 years of age, his father, seeking better opportunity, moved his family to North Carolina. In 1771 Few, his father, and a brother associated themselves with the "Regulators," a group of frontiersmen who opposed the royal governor. As a result, the brother, James, was hanged, the Few family farm was destroyed, and the father was forced to move once again, this time to Georgia. William remained behind, helping to settle his father's affairs, until 1776 when he joined his family near Wrightsboro, Ga. About this time, he won admittance to the bar, based on earlier informal study, and set up practice in Augusta. When the War for Independence began, Few enthusiastically aligned himself with the Whig cause. Although largely self-educated, he soon proved his capacity for leadership and won a lieutenant-colonelcy in the dragoons. In addition, he entered politics. He was elected to the Georgia provincial congress of 1776 and during the war twice served in the assembly, in 1777 and 1779. During the same period, he also sat on the state executive council besides holding the positions of surveyor-general and Indian commissioner. He also served in the Continental Congress (1780-88), during which time he was reelected to the Georgia Assembly (1783). Four years later, Few was appointed as one of six state delegates to the Constitutional Convention, two of whom never attended and two others of whom did not stay for the duration. Few himself missed large segments of the proceedings, being absent during all of July and part of August because of congressional service, and never made a speech. Nonetheless, he contributed nationalist votes at critical times. Furthermore, as a delegate to the last sessions of the Continental Congress, he helped steer the Constitution past its first obstacle, approval by Congress. And he attended the state ratifying convention. Few became one of his state's first US senators (1789-93). When his term ended, he headed back home and served again in the assembly. In 1796 he received an appointment as a federal judge for the Georgia circuit. For reasons unknown, he resigned his judgeship in 1799 at the age of 52 and moved to New York City. Few's career continued to blossom. He served 4 years in the legislature (1802-5) and then as inspector of prisons (1802-10), alderman (1813-14), and US co mmissioner of loans (1804). From 1804 to 1814 he held a directorship at the Manhattan Bank and later the presidency of City Bank. A devout Methodist, he also donated generously to philanthropic causes. When Few died in 1828 at the age of 80 in Fishkill-on-the-Hudson (present Beacon), he was survived by his wife (born Catherine Nicholson) and three daughters. Originally buried in the yard of the local Reformed Dutch Church, his body was later re interred at St. Paul's Church, Augusta, GA.>> ______________ Note-HH-William FEW, Jr. was brother to James, Ignatius and Elizabeth, all children of William, Sr., and Mary (Wheeler) FEW. James was the son hung by the Tories (the British Governor;s troops) without a trial after the battle of Almanance. Elizabeth FEW was wife of Colonel Greenberry LEE of Richmond Co., GA. It was Ignatius FEW who was Greenberry LEE's estate executor by Greenberry LEE's deathbed request in Richmond Co., GA in 1784, all this is a matter of Richmond Co., GA records. Please note that William FEW, Jr. was at not time the Mayor of New York City as claimed by some. ____________ Best regards, Hugh

All, Although The West Point Atlas of American Wars, Volume I, states that Colonel Richard Henry LEE was the commander of American troops at Paulus Hook, NJ in Aug. of 1779 the author has identified the wrong officer. The officer was Major Henry (Harry) LEE who later became known as "Light Horse Harry" LEE. Henry/Harry LEE was the son of Henry LEE and the grandson of a second Henry LEE. The use of the first name of "Richard" is erroneous as is the rank of Colonel. Major Henry/Harry LEE became a Lt. Col. later and eventually a Major General after the RW. He was the only non-General Officer to be cited singularly by the Continental Congress during the RW. _________________ . . 3 HENRY LEE b. 1691 d. 25 AUG 1747 m. UNK MARY BLAND b. 21 Aug 1704 d. 1764 . . . 4 HENRY LEE b. 1729 d. 1787 m. 1 DEC 1753 LUCY GRYMES b. 26 APR 1734 d. 1792 . . . . 5 HENRY "LIGHT-HORSE HARRY" LEE b. 29 JAN 1756 d. 25 MAR 1818 m1. APR 1782 MATILDA LEE b. 1764 d. 1790 . . . . . m2. 18 JUN 1793 ANN HILL CARTER b. 1773 d. 26 JUL 1829 ________________ Best regards, Hugh

I feel that information that I put on the web should be free to whom ever needs it. I will not put info out there that will be charged for. That is why I quit Family Tree Maker. Geri Beaver -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 05/04/04 19:26:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] re: Ancestry.com Hi All, I can agree that paying for information that I have submitted is wrong, but I also figure that I am paying for an additional source of info, submitted by others, that is helpful. Renting film at $3.75 for a month is about $37.50 for my films which runs over the cost of Ancestry each year but I do it. I use FamilySearch.org for much of my presearch, I work in the FHC and also use the Federal Archives often so I am familiar with what is available out there and I will use whatever gives me information. I guess I feel the work is more important than the cost at this time. Ciolina, John E. USN-Ret DV ==== LEE Mailing List ==== An important resource is the LEE MESSAGE BOARD for all Queries, B-M-D Records, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, & Wills. Posts will be automatically 'gatewayed' to our LEE Mailing List. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.lee ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

William Lee, b about 1785, married in Botetourt County VA, 1817, to a young lady, Matilda Oney, who had roots in Surry County Va. Soon after their marriage they relocated to Fentress County TN. I am unable to determine William Lees parents or birth place, but feel he was not native of Botetourt County. In the 1850 census he stated only he was born in Virginia. Does anyone have any information, or comments, on this William Lee? Thanks, Al

In the 1880 White County TN census, a John Lee, Bartholet Lee, and Julia Ida Lee were listed as children of Elizabeth Halterman Lee, widow(?) of Marion Lee, originally from Fentress County TN. Does anyone have any information on this Bartholet Lee, or Julia Ida Lee? I have not found them and feel Bartholet may have moved to a different county, but have not been able to determine if Julia Ida married, and remained in White County. I think Marion died shortly before 1880, Elizabeth remarried (1889, Lum Pirtle), however Ive found no information of when, or how, Marion died, or where he is buried. Any help or comment will be appreciated. Thanks, Al

I am looking for information about my Grandmother Polly Jane Lee Smith's brother Grover Cleveland Lee.  He was born 12/1893 and died 11/1959.  He is buried at Oconee Memorial Park.  He died in Royal Oaks, Michigan.  As far as I know from family oral history he was married twice (Edith last name unknown and Myrtle last name unknown).  I believe he had 3 children: Lucy, Jimmy and Lola. I would rather have facts to go on than family history so if anyone can help me with Great Uncle Grover I would appreciate it. Gail