Hellen, Thanx so much for the LEE info on my gr-father. How often we are tempted to forget how generous & kind our fellow researchers are. They then remind us by an act they did not have to do. I hope I can someday repay someone for your help. This is what genealogy is all about! Walt

In a message dated 3/8/2005 12:42:14 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: >From the book "Passports Issued By The Governors of Georgia "(Bryan) do you have this book just curious? I have been trying to find a site that show passports, anyone know of one from England to say Pennsylvania? thanks, MW Ever since this book was first mentioned here, I've been thinking that there was perhaps a mistake in the title or an overlap in content with another book. There are many passports by the governors of Georgia in the book Passports of Southeastern Pioneers 1770-1823 by Dorothy W. Potter. As far as I'm aware, passports issued by the governor of GA were issued to white people wanting to travel to or through Indian nations within the U.S.. I would not think they'd be identical with passports (which began in 1789) issued either to U.S. citizens traveling abroad or foreign persons entering the U.S. K. Gunn [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

From: Walter McElligott <[email protected]> Subject: W1G: Re: LEE-D Warrior, AL... Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 09:05:54 -0600 Hi family, it's been longer than a genealogy minute since I've been around, but it seems one gets a lot busier AFTER retirement, eh? I'm still searching for my AL gr-father, Warrior C. (Charles?) LEE, b. ca. 1880-1890, md. Bertha PENNINGTON, Sulligent, AL, Issue: (mother) Ruby, b. 06-04-1916, (md. Walter L. McElligott, Chicago, IL), d. MI, 01-02-1992, Pearl Hi Walter, I believe I've found your family. I hope this helps, Marie In the 1910 U.S. Census; 5 th Precinct, Walker Co., Al. Microfilm Series: T624 Roll 35 pg. 110 Warrior C. Lee age 34; Household: Bertha-Wife, Gifford-son, Pearl-dau. In the 1920 U.S. Census, they were living in Parrish, Precinct#22, Walker Co., Al. Microfilm Series T625 Roll 35 page 204-5 Lee, Warriar Head R M W 42 M _ Y Y AL AL AL Y Salesman grocery , Bertha Wife F W 37 M Al Al AL Y store , Gifford Son M W 14 S AL AL AL Y Laborer railroad , Pearl Dau F W 11 S AL AL AL , Elton Son M W 7 S AL AL AL , Ruby Dau F W 4 7/12 S AL AL AL Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Thomas J. LEE Self M Male W 23 AL Farming TN KY Nancy A. LEE Wife M Female W 25 AL Keeping House AL AL Warrior C. LEE Son S Male W 2 AL AL AL Levy C. LEE Dau S Female W 5M AL AL AL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Beat 6, Lamar, Alabama Family History Library Film 1254017 NA Film Number T9-0017 Page Number 550C

Kay, et. al.: I've seen the book in question, also, and I agree with you that it is for internal travel within the US only as settlers crossed the Creek Nation (and others) in the present-day central Southeast, from GA and NC and SC to the MS Territory. They are NOT for travel to England, France, etc. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] Re: LEE-passports In a message dated 3/8/2005 12:42:14 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: >From the book "Passports Issued By The Governors of Georgia "(Bryan) do you have this book just curious? I have been trying to find a site that show passports, anyone know of one from England to say Pennsylvania? thanks, MW Ever since this book was first mentioned here, I've been thinking that there was perhaps a mistake in the title or an overlap in content with another book. There are many passports by the governors of Georgia in the book Passports of Southeastern Pioneers 1770-1823 by Dorothy W. Potter. As far as I'm aware, passports issued by the governor of GA were issued to white people wanting to travel to or through Indian nations within the U.S.. I would not think they'd be identical with passports (which began in 1789) issued either to U.S. citizens traveling abroad or foreign persons entering the U.S. K. Gunn [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ==== LEE Mailing List ==== To leave the LEE mailing list, send only the word Unsubscribe in the subject line and in the body of an email to: [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Mail Mode [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Digest Mode ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

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From: Lorraine Dowdle <[email protected]> Just for fun, I will list all my Wm Lees in my database. I can't verify everything in this list. 2. Wm b. 1676/1682 York, VA m. Anne HARRISON s/o Henry LEE & Alice DAVIS well if it helps at all, I can claim him, they are parents of my Elizabeth Lee b abt 1707 Yorkhampton Pari,York Co VA d DEC 1748 Goochland,Powahatan CoVA dau of William Lee b 1676/1682 York VA and Anne Harrison s/o Henry LEE & Alice DAVIS + Matthew Harris b abt 1690-95 The Forks York Co Va (Robt b abt 1660, Robt abt 1635, Wm Harris 1596) d Bef 1727 York CoVA __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

Hi family, it's been longer than a genealogy minute since I've been around, but it seems one gets a lot busier AFTER retirement, eh? I'm still searching for my AL gr-father, Warrior C. (Charles?) LEE, b. ca. 1880-1890, md. Bertha PENNINGTON, Sulligent, AL, Issue: (mother) Ruby, b. 06-04-1916, (md. Walter L. McElligott, Chicago, IL), d. MI, 01-02-1992, Pearl Not previously found at AL Vital Records online: <http://www.vitalrec.com> Walt May God Bless You & Yours Walter & Joan McElligott P. O. Box 452 Beecher, IL 60401 =========================

I wanted to share the following information with the list pertaining to Needham Lee, Sr. It will be of interest to any of you who are his descendants. Anna Prestage Mr. Will Franke, whose family were early settlers of Jefferson and Shelby County, was a businessman, educator, scholar, genealogist and historian. He was born Aug. 18, 1889 in Waddell, formerly Watkins Branch. When he died on Nov. 22, 1964, Alabama lost one of its best and most faithful historians. He was widely recognized as the authority on many phases of the State's history. He is attributed for compiling and preserving more pioneer history of the Birmingham area than all other person and institutions combined. Because of his foresight, many early records of Jefferson and Shelby County was preserved. His research was recently donated to the Special Collections Dept. at the Samford University Library. This is of great interest to those individuals who descended from the early pioneers of Jefferson and Shelby County, including the Acton, Bailey, Byars, Caldwell, Lee, Massey and Watkins families. Re: Needham Lee Sr., his having fled to Etowah County, AL because he was charged with counterfeiting. I know the story, but not exactly who started the counterfeiting flight story or exactly when. My best guess is that it got started when someone got a partial transcript of the grand jury proceedings. I believe that the transcript has to have cropped up after Will Franke died in 1964 since his papers do not include a copy of the transcript, only a record that charges were dropped against his (Needham's) two Bailey nephews in 1824. The Will Franke papers, most of which were donated in 2002 to Samford University (Birmingham) include early court records for Shelby County beginning with 1824, the year that charges against the Baileys were vacated. Did I mention I am Will Franke's niece and as luck would have it, the one who cataloged his papers before we turned them over to Samford? In the case of Needham Lee, Sr., you already have seen Tennessee litigation instituted by Thomas Bailey which indicated Needham is deceased. (Shown later) The last record of his being alive is when he gave testimony in 1823 before a grand jury in Shelby Co., AL. I have been trying to pinpoint, prove where he is buried. Locating the burial place of anyone who was buried prior to 1840-1850 is extremely difficult because families buried family members in family plots and often did not put up markers of any sort. In the case of Needham Lee, Sr., I have been able to substantially prove that he did not go elsewhere when he died. First, he had no reason to leave. The charge consisted of a claim that Needham Sr. had given another a $10.00 bill issued on the National Bank of Nashville, TN. On questioning, it was demonstrated that it could not be proven which $10.00 bill Needham gave to the man. The bill was not marked. Second, for Needham to remain at liberty bail had to be posted. Bail in the amount of $2,000 was posted by Samuel Acton and $2,000 was posted by the Governor of Alabama. At that time counterfeiting was considered a serious offense, a capital crime. Counterfeiters were hung. Consequently for Needham to have been allowed to post bail indicates that he had standing in the community where he lived, and be able to post a large amount of money as bail, or have friends who could. $4,000 at that time was a very large amount of money. We do know that the bail money was not forfeited. If Needham had fled, those who posted bail money would have had to forfeit the money they posted to guarantee that Needham would be available to appear to answer charges in court. I eliminated claims that Needham went to Etowah County with any of his children. Etowah Co. was Indian Territory at the time Needham died (or was said to have left). All of his children (census records) were present in Shelby Co. through the census of 1840. Neither William Carroll Lee (son) nor John Willis Lee (son) acquired land until after 1840. We have Bold Springs and Birmingham Lake Purdy records. History of church: established by Overtons (wife of Gaines Lee, son of Needham). Robert Bailey, first minister, land donated included cemetery for community (have land records). In 1906 first dam on Cahaba River flooded over Bridgewater and forced families to vacate land. They were compensated and members of church named in church history. The church received eleven acres of timberland as part of compensation for land lost in church. In 1926 dam was raised. As a result, water covered Bold Springs for which the church is named and started creeping up into the cemetery. Church received bond in the amount of $2,000 to enable moving family plots being covered by water. Eleven members of the Needham Lee family including two unidentified children were moved. Their remains were placed in eleven boxes that he determined how many there were buried there. The remains of the children were placed together in the same box. In addition to Will Franke's description, I have an affidavit from a witness. Needham Lee, Sr. is buried (family were moved when Lake Purdy was created) at Bold Springs Church where Shelby and Jefferson Co. come together. Note this is not good enough evidence to allow us to place a marker on Needham Lee's grave. Without digging them up in the hope something remains that would allow us to make a determination that such and so is Needham, we can't. Mr. Watkins noted that they buried dirt, buttons, and bones, all very carefully. I am hoping that we will be able to put up a historical marker. At least, we can be reasonably sure that Needham Lee, Sr. was reburied in Jefferson Co. Fortunately we will have less of a problem with Needham's son William Carroll Lee. Here, everything is clear cut: his service record and where he is buried. He has one of the oldest markers I have seen and the family owns the land and the cemetery. I'll be able to mark and commemorate William Carroll Lee. I also have where charges against Bailey were dropped and individual who had them in custody was compensated. It would appear that in the early days of Shelby Co. there was no jail; individuals were paid to assume responsibility for prisoners. Hawkins County, Tennessee Chancery Court Records 1825-1845 Wednesday, May 6, 1829 Court met pursuant to adjournment. Present: The Honorable Nathan Greene, Chancellor & c Thomas Bailey vs Edward Lee, Executor Mary Lee, Dec'd, Micajah Lee, Susan Morell, Adm'x of Christian Morell, Dec'd, Susan Lee, Widow of Needham Lee, Dec'd, Thomas Lee, Wm. C. Lee, James Bailey, his wife Winifred Lee, Samuel & Zilpha Eaton, John W., Ingram, Needham, Lee, Wm. & Zilpha Eaton, Elizabeth, Sally, Harry, Edward, Perry, Gaines, Polly, Martin, Franklin, and Suan Lee, Heirs and Reps. of Needham Lee, Dec'd. Decree: This cause coming on to be heard and finally determined before the Honorable Nathan Greene, Chancellor & c, on the bill answers replication and proof and it appearing to the satisfaction of the court that the Comp't is by regular and assignment entitled to the share of Needham Lee of the estate of Mary Lee, dec'd and that the Defendant, Micajah Lee and Christian Morell had obtained judgments before Hezekiah Hamblen and C. E. Kenner, Esqrs. as stated and set forth in the bill of Complainant on garnishment and that the executor of Mary Lee, dec'd had an account of said judgment and refused to pay the Comp't the amount of said share of Needham Lee on account of said judgments against him on garnishment which share amount to the sum of $176.50. It is therefore considered ordered adjudged and decreed by the court that the said Edward Lee, Executor of Mary Lee, dec'd pay to the Comp't the sum of $176.50 together with the further sum of $73.25 the interest due thereon from the time the same ought to have been paid up to this time and it is furthermore ordered adjudged and decreed by the court that the injunction heretofore granted against the judgments of the said Micajah Lee and Christian Morell be and the same is hereby perpetual and it is furthermore ordered adjudged and decreed by the court that each party pay the costs occasioned by them in this suit for which execution may issue and it is further ordered adjudged and decreed that Comp't pay the costs of making the Heirs or Representatives of Needham Lee parties to this suit for which execution may also issue.

Hi Marla; I have a comment on this line. My GGgrandfather was James Y. LEE b. 1836 in Missouri m. 14 May 1871 , Barry, Missouri to Matilda BOWMAN b. Owsley, Kentucky. I know for a certainty my line to James Y. but can't verify his parents and family so am always looking for James Lees in Missouri during the 1830-50's. And YOU have one listed as the son of Greenberry and Levicy Smith LEE. My James Y. Lee also named his son, my Ggrandfather, Silas Young LEE b. 1880 Gainesville, Cooke, TX. I have long assumed that my James Y. Lee b. 1836 was the son of Ephraim Wilson LEE b. 1787 Franklin, Greene, TN and Nancy Brooks WILLIAMS. I assume this because Ephraim's family was in Newton or Barry Co., Missouri at the time of James Y's birth. They all emigrated to Navarro Co., TX and later to Brown Co., TX as my James Y. Lee also did. I find James Y's wife living right next to one of Ephraim Lee's children in Brown Co., TX. I have had other LEE researchers disagree with my assumption, but can't give an alternate answer. Ephraim LEE was the s/o Abner LEE b. 1764 , Greene, NC & Catherine WILSON. Abner had 13 children by Catherine: 1. Ephraim Wilson b. 9 Sep 1787 TN m. Nancy Brooks WILLIAMS (7 kids: Henry, George Lilburn K., Gresham "Dude", Naomi Williams, Brooks William, Lucinda and possibly James Young) 2. Isabella b. 9 Sep 1787 (twin to Ephraim) TN m. Jesse Mumford GILSTRAP 3. Levi b. 18 Jan 1791 VA m. Mary Virginia MARCUS (12 kids:Lucinda Avarilla, Susannah, Catharine, William, Leroy, Sallie "Ailcey", George Wilson, Andrew Peter, Ezekiel, Sarah Elizabeth, Mary Jane, & Iziller Edna) 4. Richard b. 18 Jan 1791 (twin to Levi) 5. Joseph b. abt 1793 6. George Washington b. 1795 , VA m. Mahala Elvira GRIFFITH (5 kids: Abner Gresham, Ephraim Wilson, Walter Campbell, George Chisholm, & Levi Woodbury) 7. William b. 24 Feb. 1801, Jackson, TN m. Elizabeth (6 kids: Abner, Wilson, William, James, Houston, & Luke) 8. Abner Jr. b. 24 Feb 1801 (twin to William) 9. Young b. 1803 10. Ailsey b. 1805 , Jackson, TN m. Isaiah VAN ZANDT (2 kids: John G. & Parrazeda G.) 11. Malinda b. 1807 m. Ezekiel VAN ZANDT 12. Rawlins b. abt 1809 13. James Henry b. 1814 Abner had a 2nd marriage to Sarah "Sally" Johnson MILLER b. 1795, Jackson, TN d. 1881 TX m. 2 Oct 1835 and had two children: 1. Greenwood LEE b. 1 Oct 1820, Jackson, TN d. 1912 Weatherford, Parker, TX m. 1861 to Mary DAVIS b. 2 Feb 1841 TN. They had 11 kids: John Abner, Emma, James Franklin, William Alexander, Isaac Greenwood, Walter Thomas, Mary Louise Gertrude, Ruda Priscilla, Amy Belle, Sarah Susannah and Ola Virginia. 2. Thomas Granville LEEb. 14 Jun 1823 , Jackson, TN d. 18 Jun 1904 , Ripley, MO m. Emily UPCHURCH. They had 3 children: Robert Samuel, Charles Henry and Myrtle Ruth. Thomas was also m. Belle FIELDS in 1862. This Abner b. 1764 was the s/o Richard Henry LEE b. 1701 and Mary GRESHAM b. 1704 d. Edward GRESHAM & Barbara. ---Lorraine On Sunday, March 6, 2005, at 05:21 PM, [email protected] wrote: > My Green Berry Lee, b. 1797 d. 1880, married Levicy Smith b. 1802 d. > 1859. > This Green Berry Lee was born in Richmond KY, and is thought to have > migrated > to Missouri in 1833. He is supposed to have served in Fowlers Company > Volunterrs, the Georgia Militia and the Cherokee Removals. > He married Levicy Smith of Somerset KY in 1818. She was the daughter > of > Jonathan Drury Smith and Rebecca Neal. > Green Berry and Levicy settled in what is now Drake MO in Gasconade > County. > He is buried in the Zoar Cemetery west of Drake. His eldest daughter, > Nancy > is buried next to him. Levicy was at some point put into an asylum, > and I have > not found her grave. Another researcher thinks that Levicy went to > Mexico MO > to assist family there rather than institutionalized. > Green Berry and Levicy had 11 children: > Nancy R. Lee b. Nov 13, 1820 in KY > William Joshua Lee, b. 1828 in KY (This is my ancestor) > Magaret Lee, b. 1831 in KY > Martha Ann Lee, b. 1835 in MO > Samuel Lee, b. 1839 in MO > Lucinda Elizabeth Lee, b. 1842 in MO > Charles J. Lee, b. 1845 in MO > James Lee, unknown, in MO > Greenberry Lee, unknown, in MO > Drury Lee, unknown, in MO > Jonathon Lee, unknown, in MO > > Green Berry is the son of Willis or Drury Lee and wife Nancy Eoff. > They are > listed in the 1810 census of pUlaski County KY. Willis (Drury) Lee > and Nancy > had 7 children: > Green Berry > Squire Lee > James W. Lee > Silas Lee > Willis Lee > Nancy (Lee) Ross > Clayton Lee. > > Willis (Drury) Lee Sr. died around 1843, and is buried in New Madrid > County > MO. > > Willis Lee (Possibly also known as Drury) may be the son of Charles > Lee (1758 > - 1815), a brother to "Light Horse Harry" Lee. It has been assumed > (from a > Genealogical chart by Josia Gross) that Charles Lee's second marriage > was to > Margaret Scott. This second marriage supposedly produced a son named > Willis > Lee, b. 1776. > > Some of this data comes from research assembled by Myrtle Dingley > Haradon in > search of a Lee who may have fought during the Revolutionary War, to > qualify > her admission into the DAR. Other info comes from a Genealogical chart > assembed by Josiah Gross, a lawyer from New Orleans, a son of Lucinda > Elizabeth Lee. > > I have additional data regarding the progeny of William Joshua Lee. > D.L. > Riedel of MO, descended from Charles J. Lee b. 1845, son of Green > Berry, is also > researching this line. Jeanne Baker of Iowa, also related to Charles > J. Lee > b. 1845 is a third researcher of this line. > > Any comments on this line, Hugh? > > Marla Timmons in Houston

I had written a brief note about a week ago about another Greenberry Lee, different from the Greenberry that ended up in GA/AL. My Green Berry Lee, b. 1797 d. 1880, married Levicy Smith b. 1802 d. 1859. This Green Berry Lee was born in Richmond KY, and is thought to have migrated to Missouri in 1833. He is supposed to have served in Fowlers Company Volunterrs, the Georgia Militia and the Cherokee Removals. He married Levicy Smith of Somerset KY in 1818. She was the daughter of Jonathan Drury Smith and Rebecca Neal. Green Berry and Levicy settled in what is now Drake MO in Gasconade County. He is buried in the Zoar Cemetery west of Drake. His eldest daughter, Nancy is buried next to him. Levicy was at some point put into an asylum, and I have not found her grave. Another researcher thinks that Levicy went to Mexico MO to assist family there rather than institutionalized. Green Berry and Levicy had 11 children: Nancy R. Lee b. Nov 13, 1820 in KY William Joshua Lee, b. 1828 in KY (This is my ancestor) Magaret Lee, b. 1831 in KY Martha Ann Lee, b. 1835 in MO Samuel Lee, b. 1839 in MO Lucinda Elizabeth Lee, b. 1842 in MO Charles J. Lee, b. 1845 in MO James Lee, unknown, in MO Greenberry Lee, unknown, in MO Drury Lee, unknown, in MO Jonathon Lee, unknown, in MO Green Berry is the son of Willis or Drury Lee and wife Nancy Eoff. They are listed in the 1810 census of pUlaski County KY. Willis (Drury) Lee and Nancy had 7 children: Green Berry Squire Lee James W. Lee Silas Lee Willis Lee Nancy (Lee) Ross Clayton Lee. Willis (Drury) Lee Sr. died around 1843, and is buried in New Madrid County MO. Willis Lee (Possibly also known as Drury) may be the son of Charles Lee (1758 - 1815), a brother to "Light Horse Harry" Lee. It has been assumed (from a Genealogical chart by Josia Gross) that Charles Lee's second marriage was to Margaret Scott. This second marriage supposedly produced a son named Willis Lee, b. 1776. Some of this data comes from research assembled by Myrtle Dingley Haradon in search of a Lee who may have fought during the Revolutionary War, to qualify her admission into the DAR. Other info comes from a Genealogical chart assembed by Josiah Gross, a lawyer from New Orleans, a son of Lucinda Elizabeth Lee. I have additional data regarding the progeny of William Joshua Lee. D.L. Riedel of MO, descended from Charles J. Lee b. 1845, son of Green Berry, is also researching this line. Jeanne Baker of Iowa, also related to Charles J. Lee b. 1845 is a third researcher of this line. Any comments on this line, Hugh? Marla Timmons in Houston

Lorraine, Here's another William Lee for your list: William Haynes Lee b. April 1, 1818, near Mt. Hope, Lawrence Co, AL, d. November 04, 1895; buried Davis Cemetery, Franklin Co, AL; s/o John Lee and Celia McCarver; m. Martha Jane Wallace on August 20, 1843 Nancy Beadle -----Original Message----- From: Lorraine Dowdle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEE] Re: Descendants of Wm. Lee, Alice Felton & Mary Green Oh Cheryl; No offense taken at all. :-) I do love this process of getting together with 'cousins' and being able to work together and find our past and put it all together. The LEE family especially is full of national history and were there when it all began. I hope I didn't sound offended. I really wasn't. I was commiserating (sp?) with you. Just for fun, I will list all my Wm Lees in my database. I can't verify everything in this list. It's motly my collection of Wm. LEEs. Maybe we can find something here! 1. Wm b. abt 1650 son of Richard Henry & Anna CONSTABLE LEE 2. Wm b. 1676/1682 York, VA m. Anne HARRISON s/o Henry LEE & Alice DAVIS 3. Wm b. 9 Feb 1834 s/o Barnett LEE & Sarah PARROTT 4. Wm b. 1831 Tenn s/o William LEE b. 24 Feb 1801 & Elizabeth b. 1797 5. Wm b. 1788 , Caswell, NC d. 12 Feb 1882 , Newton, MO m. Elizabeth CADLE on Jan 1818 s/o Elizbath HARDIN 6. Wm b. 14 May 1704 , Richmond, VA d. 2 Jul 1764, Richmond, VA m. 1. Anne 1723 2. Mary Marie THORNTON abt 1746; s/o William LEE & Dorothy TAYLOR 7. Wm b. abt 1682 Northampton, VA d. 10 Dec 1717 Richmond, VA m. Dorothy TAYLOR abt 1702 8. Wm b. 1654, York, VA d. 14 Jul 1703 King& Queen, VA m. 1. Mary GREEN 1675 2. Alice FELTON 1672 9. Wm. b. 1744 s/o James LEE b. 1714 & Mary Clarke GARNETT b. 1718 10. Wm. b. abt 1718 King & Queen, VA s/o John LEE b. abt 1700 & Ann CARTER b. abt 1695. 11. Wm. b. 19 Jun 1824 Wayne, MO s/o Levi LEE b. 18 Jan 1791 & Mary Virginia MARCUS b. 5 Dec 1798 12. Wm b. abt 1700 m. Rachel s/o Thomas LEE b. abt 1680 & Elizabeth KEENE 13. Wm b. abt 1711, Richmond, VA d. 10 Mar 1784 Orange, VA m. abt 1731 to Rachel AMBROSE; s/o John LEE b. 1677 & Ann TAYLOR b. 12 Jan 1683 14. Wm b. 31 Aug 1739 ,Westmoreland, VA d. 27 Jun 1795 Greenspring, VA buried Jamestown, VA; m. Hannah Philippa LUDWELL. s/o Thomas LEE b. 1690 & Hannah Harrison LUDWELL b. 5 Dec 1701. 15. Wm. b. 24 Feb 1801 , Jackson, TN m. abt 1818 Elizabeth; s/0 Abner LEE b. 1764 & Catherine WILSON b. 1767 16. Wm. d. bef Sep 1788 Prince Edward, VA m. Sarah; s/o Richard Henry LEE b. abt 1677 & Mary YOUNG b. 1679 17. Wm. b. 24 Jan 1754 Albemarle, VA d. 12 Feb 1833 m. Druscilla STAPLES 24 Jan 1783; s/o Richard Henry LEE b. 1701 & Mary GRESHAM b,. abt 1704 18. Wm Alexander s/o Greenwood LEE b. 1 Oct 1820 & Mary DAVIS b. 3 Feb 1841 19. Wm C. b. 24 Jan 1800 s/o Miller LEE b. 1 Jul 1769 & Margaret "Peggy" CARSON 20. Wm. Carroll b. 28 Mar 1875 Texas d. 13 Jul 1921 Brown, TX s/o James Young LEE b. 1836, Newton, MO & Matilda BOWMAN b. 21 Dec 1852 21. Wm Fleming b. 1785 m. Miss MONTGOMERY; s/o George Penn LEE b. 1757 & Elizabeth SHELTON b. 1758 22. Wm H. b. 1837 d. 1861 Civil War? m. Nancy E.; s/o James B. LEE b. 25 Apr 1804 & Nancy COCKRELL b. 9 Feb 1798 23. Wm Henry Fitzhugh b. 31 May 1837 Fairfax, VA d. 15 Oct 1891 Fairfax, VA; m. 1. Mary Tabb BOLLING 2. Charlotte WICKHAM; s/o Gen. Robert Edward LEE b. 1807 & Mary Ann Randolph CUSTIS 24. Wm. Jackson b. abt 1810 m. Elizabeth A. SHELTON 25. Wm b. abt 1812 Kentucky s/o Wm LEE & Druscilla STAPLES 26. Wm Wheeler b. 1821 Washington, VA s/o Miller LEE b. 1799 & Nancy WHEELER b. 1802 ---Lorraine Dowdle On Sunday, March 6, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Cheryl Kutheis wrote: > Lorraine, > You are right.  I am sorry, I know you know how frustrating it all > gets! > I guess I just "lost my cool" as my daughter would say.  No offense > intended. > Cheryl ==== LEE Mailing List ==== When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the LEE message board, be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. Since the poster might not be a member of our LEE mailing list, they may only see your response when it is made through the board. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Oh Cheryl; No offense taken at all. :-) I do love this process of getting together with 'cousins' and being able to work together and find our past and put it all together. The LEE family especially is full of national history and were there when it all began. I hope I didn't sound offended. I really wasn't. I was commiserating (sp?) with you. Just for fun, I will list all my Wm Lees in my database. I can't verify everything in this list. It's motly my collection of Wm. LEEs. Maybe we can find something here! 1. Wm b. abt 1650 son of Richard Henry & Anna CONSTABLE LEE 2. Wm b. 1676/1682 York, VA m. Anne HARRISON s/o Henry LEE & Alice DAVIS 3. Wm b. 9 Feb 1834 s/o Barnett LEE & Sarah PARROTT 4. Wm b. 1831 Tenn s/o William LEE b. 24 Feb 1801 & Elizabeth b. 1797 5. Wm b. 1788 , Caswell, NC d. 12 Feb 1882 , Newton, MO m. Elizabeth CADLE on Jan 1818 s/o Elizbath HARDIN 6. Wm b. 14 May 1704 , Richmond, VA d. 2 Jul 1764, Richmond, VA m. 1. Anne 1723 2. Mary Marie THORNTON abt 1746; s/o William LEE & Dorothy TAYLOR 7. Wm b. abt 1682 Northampton, VA d. 10 Dec 1717 Richmond, VA m. Dorothy TAYLOR abt 1702 8. Wm b. 1654, York, VA d. 14 Jul 1703 King& Queen, VA m. 1. Mary GREEN 1675 2. Alice FELTON 1672 9. Wm. b. 1744 s/o James LEE b. 1714 & Mary Clarke GARNETT b. 1718 10. Wm. b. abt 1718 King & Queen, VA s/o John LEE b. abt 1700 & Ann CARTER b. abt 1695. 11. Wm. b. 19 Jun 1824 Wayne, MO s/o Levi LEE b. 18 Jan 1791 & Mary Virginia MARCUS b. 5 Dec 1798 12. Wm b. abt 1700 m. Rachel s/o Thomas LEE b. abt 1680 & Elizabeth KEENE 13. Wm b. abt 1711, Richmond, VA d. 10 Mar 1784 Orange, VA m. abt 1731 to Rachel AMBROSE; s/o John LEE b. 1677 & Ann TAYLOR b. 12 Jan 1683 14. Wm b. 31 Aug 1739 ,Westmoreland, VA d. 27 Jun 1795 Greenspring, VA buried Jamestown, VA; m. Hannah Philippa LUDWELL. s/o Thomas LEE b. 1690 & Hannah Harrison LUDWELL b. 5 Dec 1701. 15. Wm. b. 24 Feb 1801 , Jackson, TN m. abt 1818 Elizabeth; s/0 Abner LEE b. 1764 & Catherine WILSON b. 1767 16. Wm. d. bef Sep 1788 Prince Edward, VA m. Sarah; s/o Richard Henry LEE b. abt 1677 & Mary YOUNG b. 1679 17. Wm. b. 24 Jan 1754 Albemarle, VA d. 12 Feb 1833 m. Druscilla STAPLES 24 Jan 1783; s/o Richard Henry LEE b. 1701 & Mary GRESHAM b,. abt 1704 18. Wm Alexander s/o Greenwood LEE b. 1 Oct 1820 & Mary DAVIS b. 3 Feb 1841 19. Wm C. b. 24 Jan 1800 s/o Miller LEE b. 1 Jul 1769 & Margaret "Peggy" CARSON 20. Wm. Carroll b. 28 Mar 1875 Texas d. 13 Jul 1921 Brown, TX s/o James Young LEE b. 1836, Newton, MO & Matilda BOWMAN b. 21 Dec 1852 21. Wm Fleming b. 1785 m. Miss MONTGOMERY; s/o George Penn LEE b. 1757 & Elizabeth SHELTON b. 1758 22. Wm H. b. 1837 d. 1861 Civil War? m. Nancy E.; s/o James B. LEE b. 25 Apr 1804 & Nancy COCKRELL b. 9 Feb 1798 23. Wm Henry Fitzhugh b. 31 May 1837 Fairfax, VA d. 15 Oct 1891 Fairfax, VA; m. 1. Mary Tabb BOLLING 2. Charlotte WICKHAM; s/o Gen. Robert Edward LEE b. 1807 & Mary Ann Randolph CUSTIS 24. Wm. Jackson b. abt 1810 m. Elizabeth A. SHELTON 25. Wm b. abt 1812 Kentucky s/o Wm LEE & Druscilla STAPLES 26. Wm Wheeler b. 1821 Washington, VA s/o Miller LEE b. 1799 & Nancy WHEELER b. 1802 ---Lorraine Dowdle On Sunday, March 6, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Cheryl Kutheis wrote: > Lorraine, > You are right.  I am sorry, I know you know how frustrating it all > gets! > I guess I just "lost my cool" as my daughter would say.  No offense > intended. > Cheryl

LEE researchers, The plot thickens, I now have a report that there were at least two Thomas LEEs in Buckingham Co., VA, one of whom carried the title of Captain. It appears these LEEs drifted into Washington Co., NC (which later became TN). So far the info suggests that the area became Green Co., TN which by chance is adjacent to Hawkins Co., TN where we find Captain Thomas LEE (RS-NC). I have limited info on timing which is critical to make this info meaningful (the time frame is pre and post RW) At this point this assertion is NOT proved, but is in need of investigation. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD]

The article that is at this website has a telephone ad in it with a date of 2001. I would suspect that the magazine issue is 2001 or later. The website again is: http://www.downhomemagazine.com/PDFs/Features/Alabama%20Counterfeiters.pdf#se arch='miriam%20rogers%20fowleralabama%20counterfeiters Alice Benson Austin, TX In a message dated 3/4/2005 10:32:19 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do not have the information on the magazine issue, as I obtained a transcripted version online, which only referenced the magazine title itself. Here is the online link to the PDF file: _http://www.downhomemagazine.com/PDFs/Features/Alabama%20Counterfeiters.pdf#se arch='miriam%20rogers%20fowleralabama%20counterfeiters'_ (http://www.downhomemagazine.com/PDFs/Features/Alabama%20Counterfeiters.pdf#se arch='miriam%20rogers %20fowleralabama%20counterfeiters') That version appears to be a condensed from a story by Miriam Rogers Folwer. In addition, she apparently presented a longer version at the Alabama Studies Symposium on August 1, 1997 from what I understand. If I had to guess, the presentation probably preceded the magazine article. However, you may be able to write or call the magazine and see if they can research the issue number and possibly obtain a back copy of it. If you do find out, please email me or post it to the mailing list for others. Unfortunately, I do not subscribe to the magazine myself, but may have to start. ---Briana

Where did you get the article? I was love to have a copy of it. I live in Helena, AL (where Needham's family lived) - Do you know if the magazine/article can be found in the archives here? I have not seen it yet. I tried to find the article online (as was mentioned in the email) but have not been successful. I will gladly pay for postage/copying if you could mail a copy to me. Email me privately for address. Marlene

Anna, I will be glad to pay for the copying and postage plus your trouble if you will mail. I have thought for years my LEE's was connected to the Baily Family. Estelle Hucks HC 69 Box 3545 Kingston, Oklahoma Email mail me and i will get the money in the mail. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [LEE] LEE, Needham & BAILEY's-Shelby Co, AL > I have the article by Miriam Rogers about the counterfeiting. It is about 33 > pages long. I am not sure who to send it to. > Anna Prestage > > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== > FamilySearch w/online LDS records - http://www.familysearch.org/ > Ancestry with over 2 Billion names - http://www.ancestry.com/ > Rootsweb with multiple searches in one - http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WConnect - http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Where did you get the article? I would love to have a copy of it, even just of the highlights. Geri Beaver -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/04/05 23:49:17 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] LEE, Needham & BAILEY's-Shelby Co, AL I have the article by Miriam Rogers about the counterfeiting. It is about 33 pages long. I am not sure who to send it to. Anna Prestage ==== LEE Mailing List ==== FamilySearch w/online LDS records - http://www.familysearch.org/ Ancestry with over 2 Billion names - http://www.ancestry.com/ Rootsweb with multiple searches in one - http://www.rootsweb.com/ WConnect - http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I have the article by Miriam Rogers about the counterfeiting. It is about 33 pages long. I am not sure who to send it to. Anna Prestage

LEE Researchers. The following was on [email protected] Believe many will find it of interest if not on the [email protected] (Response to the request for issue of the article is at the end of this note.) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:31:29 -0800 (PST) From: Melissa Hogan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] (ALABAMA-D Digest V05 #55, Message: #3) Subject: Re: ALABAMA-D Digest V05 #54 Can you tell me what issue this article appeared in (also what region is printed on the cover?)?  I have several of the issues but do not recall seeing this article.  Thanks, Melissa ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 19:37:16 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Alabama] Alabama Supreme Court Records (1820-1839) Can you tell me if there is any information on the Lees or Baileys of Shelby County, Alabama who were involved in the counterfeiting ring/scandal in the 1820's (specifically, from approximately November 1822-November 1824)? Some of the names involved were Needham Lee, Sr; James B Bailey, Britain/Britton Bailey, Thomas Lee Bailey, Thomas L Bailey, Zilpha Bailey. They had connections to John Goodman, Smith Randall, John Reed Payne brothers, Tom Davis and some of the counterfeiters involved in a multi-county counterfeiting ring including St. Clair, Shelby, Walker, Tuscaloosa and/or Perry counties. (Reference an article that can be found online entitled "Alabama Counterfeiters and the Story of the cohort Smith Randall of Shelby County who 'spilled the beans'" by Miriam Rogers Fowler; printed in Down South Magazine). Apparently James B. Bailey confessed in 1822, implicating these Baileys, but not Needham Lee. Needham Lee was later charged. The Baileys and Lees were in-laws and cousins of each other; Needham Lee married Susan Bailey, daughter of Thomas Lee Bailey. Susan had a brother named James Britton Bailey, who was probably one of the ones indicted by the Shelby County Grand Jury. (Because of similarity in names and repeated usage of the Britton and James B/James Britton name, and the proximity of ages, it is difficult to decipher who was who). Needham Lee, Sr (indicted in November 1822) was a Justice in Shelby County in 1818-1821; therefore any indictment on counterfeiting charges should have been BIG NEWS statewide, I would assume; even back in the day. The Bailey boys were jailed in St. Clair County, then broke out with another man before their trial; and the Governor (Israel Pickens) issued a proclamation offering a reward for their return. I believe they were later captured. I have no information on whether or not the reward was ever claimed. I have seen reference to a court record dated November 1823 for Needham Lee, but indications are that he had "disappeared" by that date. There is no record of a will (for a JUSTICE in Shelby County, which would seem odd), a death date, grave location, further census records, or further court/land other records after that date) for Needham Lee, Sr. (not to be confused with his son Needham Lee Jr, also a prominent Shelby County man after his father). In April 1823, James B. Bailey was found Not Guilty, but a court document in April of 1824 relates that someone did not appear before the court and that James B. Bailey would be held accountable? It is not clear if this was the same James B. Bailey or another one, or if this April 1824 document was for his own case, or if he was being held liable for the bond posted for one of the Baileys or Needham Lee. Also, a James Britton Bailey ended up in Brazoria Co, Texas around this time frame, and indications are that he was one of these Bailey boys. There are NO clues whatsoever on the whereabouts of Needham Lee, Sr. who was b/1770 and whereever he went, left his family of about 20 kids behind in Shelby County, Alabama; some of who went to Etowah County later. Any additional information from any source(s) would be most appreciated; especially if any of these men and their records made it to the Alabama Supreme Court. Thanks!! Briana S. Felch --------------------------------------------------- Response to above: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 12:10:30 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] (ALABAMA-D Digest V05 #55, Message: #5) Subject: Re: [Alabama] Re: ALABAMA-D Digest V05 #54 I do not have the information on the magazine issue, as I obtained a  transcripted version online, which only referenced the magazine  title itself.  Here is the online link to the PDF file: _http://www.downhomemagazine.com/PDFs/Features/Alabama%20Counterfeiters.pdf#se arch='miriam%20rogers%20fowleralabama%20counterfeiters'_ (http://www.downhomemagazine.com/PDFs/Features/Alabama%20Counterfeiters.pdf#se arch='miriam%20rogers %20fowleralabama%20counterfeiters')  That version appears to be a condensed from a story by Miriam Rogers  Folwer. In addition, she apparently presented a longer version at the  Alabama Studies Symposium on August 1, 1997 from what I understand.  If I  had to guess, the presentation probably preceded the magazine article.   However, you may be able to write or call the magazine and see if they can  research the issue number and possibly obtain a back copy of it.  If you do  find out, please email me or post it to the mailing list for others.  Unfortunately, I do not subscribe to the magazine myself, but may have to  start.  ---Briana ---------------- David Pope 2407 Hodges Bend Circle Sugar Land, TX 77479 281/980-8893 (Home) 713/412-1903 (Cell) [email protected]

Does anyone have any info on this John Lee please? Marlboro County Courthouse, S.C., Deed Records Book AA, P 263, On 8 Feb., 1791 David x Lee, planter, sells to Samuel Slade, planter, 100 acres surveyed for Francis Kennedy and sold to David Lee. Book E(?) page 41, On the 26 October 1795, John x Lee and Winiford x Lee, his wife, sell to Benjamin Rogers, planter, 1/2 of 200 acres of land on the NE side of Pee Dee River granted to Thomas Powell on Aug. 8, 1753. The land was sold and conveyed to William Sweat on 18 of May, 1756 and conveyed to John Lee, father of John Lee, on 12 of January 1758. John Lee died intestate, and the land fell heir to his son David Lee (The eldest of the family) and on March 11, 1778 conveyed land to John Lee. Wit; F.Kennedy, James McGee, and Isaac Berey, Thomas Godfrey, J.P. Elaine