I've "rescued" three old photographs belonging to the BETTS and LEE Families of New York. The first is a photograph of May BETTS which was taken at the Curtiss & Smith Studio in Syracuse, NY. In addition to her name she has written "23 years old, 8th of April 1883, taken March 24th 1883" and "I will accept one in return" on the back of the photograph. The second is a photograph of Frank LEE which was also taken at a studio in Syracuse, NY, probably sometime in the 1890's or early 1900's with Frank appearing to be in his 40's or 50's at the time. The third photograph is of Hattie LEE and was taken at the Smith & Coatsworth Studio in Syracuse, NY. Hattie's photograph was taken on Jan 23, 1897 and notes that she was 24 years old at that time. Based on limited research I believe that May BETTS was the daughter of Andrew & Sylvia BETTS who were living in Van Buren, NY during the 1880 census. Andrew was age 54, a Farmer and his wife Sylvia, age 48. Living with the BETTS Family at the time were two children, May age 18, and Henry age 16, and a grandson, Andrew BETTS age 5. All were said to have been born in NY to NY born parents. I have also found information and a possible match with Frank May LEE b. 12 April 1864 to parents May LEE and Lucy Euphemia SHEPARD. Frank was one of eight children including a sister Harriet E. LEE that could possibly be the third photograph. The LEE Family was from Skaneateles, NY. I'm hoping to locate someone from this family so that these wonderful old photographs can be returned to their rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Hi, I am interested in your lettice lee--my lee's were Maryland , original for me was John Lee about l710 or so...his daughter Susannah is my gggggggggrandmother..married John Bowling...is there a connection? Thanks Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [LEE] Lettice Lee > > No I hadn't seen it thanks, Geri Beaver > -------Original Message------- > > From: A. S. Balch > Date: 07/07/05 09:26:52 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LEE] Lettice Lee > > I am sure you have seen this on the web, but thought I'd send it on > anyway: > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7590/Lee_Records_Info.htm > > Adrian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:54 AM > Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee > > >> Morning, >> I would also be interested in her parents and if she was born in >> Maryland. >> My brick wall is Charles Lee born Maryland 1783 married ABT. 1804/1805 to >> Violette (Philethe?) Bourne? born Jan 1, 1785 >> Thanks >> Mary (Lee) Stewart > > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== > To leave the LEE mailing list, send only the word Unsubscribe > in the subject line and in the body of an email to: > [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Mail Mode > [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Digest Mode > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www > ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== > Remember to include these five basic items in your posts to the list: > WHO (complete name), WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these > folks live?), WHERE (did these folks live?) and HOW (can we reach you?). > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7590/Lee_Records_Info.htm Violette LEE http://users.erols.com/ashlie/DUDWEB.HTM ref at end to a Charles Lee being a descendent of Dudley Lee. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paxson/southern/sim.html Grandfather was Thomas Addison (1679-1727). Catherine¹s obituary in 1771 said Joseph was ³of Prince George¹s Co.². Joseph m (2) ca. 1775 as her third husband, Lettice LEE (d. 3 Apr. 1776), daughter of Philip Lee (ca. 1681-1744) who served in the Md. legislature. She was the sister of Joseph¹s sister christian's first husband, Thomas Lee. Lettice had married first James WARDROP (d. 1760) and their home, ³Darnall¹s Chance² is now a house museum decorated as of the estate inventory in 1760. Lettice m(2) Dr. Adam THOMSON (d. 1767), creator of the ³American method² of smallpox innoculation. By Nov. 1779 Joseph res. on ³Addison¹s Choice² in Frederick Co.; he was there in the 1790 census, enumerated with 2 free white males over the age of 16, one under 16, and a free white female. Joseph reached the rank of Major in the militia.[13] Joseph served as executor for his sister Christian¹s will, and he and his wife Catherine were bequeathed china, dishes, and other things. ii. ??Walter Sim??[14] If the proof of his existence is the phrase in the abstract of his mother¹s will, ³To brother Joseph Walter Sim, set of china.² then it seems to me that there is one man, with two names, not two men with one name apiece. The Biographical Dictionary of the Maryland Legislature does not list Walter. iii. Barbara Sim, m. Dr. Clement SMITH, Jr. (1718-1792). Clement was the son of Walter Smith Jr. who was the brother of Richard Smith, the father of Walter who m. Christian Sim. Barbara was remembered in her sister Christian¹s will. Barbara and Clement had 10 children: Patrick Sim Smith (b. 174_; d. 1792); Dr. Walter Smith of Georgetown (d. 29 Aug. 1796; m. Esther BELT); Richard Smith (d. 14 Mar. 1787; m. Mary CHEW); Lt. Col. Alexander lawson Smith (b. 1754; d. 1802); Dr. Clement Smith, Jr.; Dr. Joseph Sim Smith (d. 6 Sept. 1822 at Taneytown); John Addison Smith (sea captain, d. unmar.); Mary Sim Smith; Susanna Smith; Rachel Smith.[15] iv. Christian Sim; d. 1762; m (1) Thomas LEE (d. 1749), the son of Philip Lee and brother of Lettice Lee who was the second wife of Christian¹s brother Joseph; m (2) Walter SMITH, the first cousin of her sister Barbara¹s husband Clement Smith. snipped http://www.livelyroots.com/gerald/34125.htm Lettice LEE b Ditchley in Virginia * Born: 1731, Ditchley, Northcumberland, Virginia * Marriage: Col. James Ball-[34124] about 1753 * Died: 11-1811, White Chapel, Lancaster County, Virginia at age 80 not sure if there are any leads here.... jcs At 5:50 pm -0500 07/07/2005, Geri wrote: > That is a different Lettice but I have her also back to the year 1195, send >me your email and I will also send you my file. > >Geri Beaver > >-------Original Message------- > >From: [email protected] >Date: 07/07/05 07:56:36 >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee > >Morning, >I would also be interested in her parents and if she was born in Maryland. >My brick wall is Charles Lee born Maryland 1783 married ABT. 1804/1805 to >Violette (Philethe?) Bourne? born Jan 1, 1785 >Thanks >Mary (Lee) Stewart CONFIDENTIAL This email, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential information, and is subject to intellectual property law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any saving, printing, copying, forwarding or other distribution of this email, including any attachments, is prohibited. Please notify sender of the error by return email , delete this email, including any attachments, and remove any and all copies from your computer system(s). Thank you. Joane Cardinal-Schubert (copyight)

No I hadn't seen it thanks, Geri Beaver -------Original Message------- From: A. S. Balch Date: 07/07/05 09:26:52 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] Lettice Lee I am sure you have seen this on the web, but thought I'd send it on anyway: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7590/Lee_Records_Info.htm Adrian ----- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee > Morning, > I would also be interested in her parents and if she was born in > Maryland. > My brick wall is Charles Lee born Maryland 1783 married ABT. 1804/1805 to > Violette (Philethe?) Bourne? born Jan 1, 1785 > Thanks > Mary (Lee) Stewart ==== LEE Mailing List ==== To leave the LEE mailing list, send only the word Unsubscribe in the subject line and in the body of an email to: [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Mail Mode [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Digest Mode ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

That is a different Lettice but I have her also back to the year 1195, send me your email and I will also send you my file. Geri Beaver -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 07/07/05 07:56:36 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee Morning, I would also be interested in her parents and if she was born in Maryland. My brick wall is Charles Lee born Maryland 1783 married ABT. 1804/1805 to Violette (Philethe?) Bourne? born Jan 1, 1785 Thanks Mary (Lee) Stewart ==== LEE Mailing List ==== To leave the LEE mailing list, send only the word Unsubscribe in the subject line and in the body of an email to: [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Mail Mode [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Digest Mode ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Why don't you send me your email and I will send you my file, I have them back to the year 1140? Geri Beaver -------Original Message------- From: A. S. Balch Date: 07/07/05 07:31:46 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] Lettice Lee Parents, siblings, children, grandparents, etc. Dates, locations. The usual ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [LEE] Lettice Lee > what do you need on her? > > Geri Beaver > > -------Original Message------- > > From: A. S. Balch > Date: 07/06/05 09:04:15 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee > > I hope someone can help me with my Lettice Lee and her line. I am not sure > if shee was the one b. 1731 or b. 1732. > > Adrian Balch > > > > Capt. Wm. BALL Jr > b. 1641 > Margaret DOWNMAN > | > Maj. James BALL > b. 1678 > m(2) Mary CONWAY Dangerfield > b. 1685/6 > | > James BALL > b. 1718 > m(3) Lettice LEE > b. 1731 > > > > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== > An important resource is the LEE MESSAGE BOARD for all Queries, > B-M-D Records, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, & Wills. > Posts will be automatically 'gatewayed' to our LEE Mailing List. > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.lee > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== > Please contact me at [email protected] with any comments, > questions or problems you may have regarding your subscription. > Thanks, Manager, LEE Mailing List > List Info Page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/lee.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== To leave the LEE mailing list, send only the word Unsubscribe in the subject line and in the body of an email to: [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Mail Mode [email protected] -- if you subscribe in Digest Mode ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I am sure you have seen this on the web, but thought I'd send it on anyway: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7590/Lee_Records_Info.htm Adrian ----- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee > Morning, > I would also be interested in her parents and if she was born in > Maryland. > My brick wall is Charles Lee born Maryland 1783 married ABT. 1804/1805 to > Violette (Philethe?) Bourne? born Jan 1, 1785 > Thanks > Mary (Lee) Stewart

Morning, I would also be interested in her parents and if she was born in Maryland. My brick wall is Charles Lee born Maryland 1783 married ABT. 1804/1805 to Violette (Philethe?) Bourne? born Jan 1, 1785 Thanks Mary (Lee) Stewart

Parents, siblings, children, grandparents, etc. Dates, locations. The usual ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [LEE] Lettice Lee > what do you need on her? > > Geri Beaver > > -------Original Message------- > > From: A. S. Balch > Date: 07/06/05 09:04:15 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee > > I hope someone can help me with my Lettice Lee and her line. I am not sure > if shee was the one b. 1731 or b. 1732. > > Adrian Balch > > > > Capt. Wm. BALL Jr > b. 1641 > Margaret DOWNMAN > | > Maj. James BALL > b. 1678 > m(2) Mary CONWAY Dangerfield > b. 1685/6 > | > James BALL > b. 1718 > m(3) Lettice LEE > b. 1731 > > > > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== > An important resource is the LEE MESSAGE BOARD for all Queries, > B-M-D Records, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, & Wills. > Posts will be automatically 'gatewayed' to our LEE Mailing List. > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.lee > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== LEE Mailing List ==== > Please contact me at [email protected] with any comments, > questions or problems you may have regarding your subscription. > Thanks, Manager, LEE Mailing List > List Info Page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/lee.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 > >

what do you need on her? Geri Beaver -------Original Message------- From: A. S. Balch Date: 07/06/05 09:04:15 To: [email protected] Subject: [LEE] Lettice Lee I hope someone can help me with my Lettice Lee and her line. I am not sure if shee was the one b. 1731 or b. 1732. Adrian Balch Capt. Wm. BALL Jr b. 1641 Margaret DOWNMAN | Maj. James BALL b. 1678 m(2) Mary CONWAY Dangerfield b. 1685/6 | James BALL b. 1718 m(3) Lettice LEE b. 1731 ==== LEE Mailing List ==== An important resource is the LEE MESSAGE BOARD for all Queries, B-M-D Records, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, & Wills. Posts will be automatically 'gatewayed' to our LEE Mailing List. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.lee ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I hope someone can help me with my Lettice Lee and her line. I am not sure if shee was the one b. 1731 or b. 1732. Adrian Balch Capt. Wm. BALL Jr b. 1641 Margaret DOWNMAN | Maj. James BALL b. 1678 m(2) Mary CONWAY Dangerfield b. 1685/6 | James BALL b. 1718 m(3) Lettice LEE b. 1731

I agree with Hugh and will further add that all subscribers should take be aware that some email programs consider a message to be spam if there is no subject title. A cousin could be missing your message. I have found several messages of this type in the archives for which I had never seen and were of my line for that particular surname. In some cases by the time I found these messages, the person's email address had changed and/or a key family member had passed away. When submitting an inquiry to any mail list, always give as much info as you can. I have seen some which simply were "seeking info on John Doe and his wife Jane." This really tells me nothing. I have also seen some as "looking for descendants of John and Jane Doe." Again there is nothing. Using common sense and providing what you know about the couple will help others help you. When I see these type of messages, I simply ignore them by trashing immediately. The thing this type of message usually tells me is that the researcher is seeking all the info he can from someone who has put in many hours of time and travel so that he can post it, publish it, or share it as his own personal research. This type of person I can do without. Also, subscribers should be aware that posting obits in their entirity is a violation of the copyright law. Obits regardless of age are protected by the copyright law and the current owner of the newspaper can file a suit accordingly. When it comes to posting obits, it is better to submit it as an abstract. Here is an example of my 2nd gr-grandfather George Pruitt whose maternal grandmother was a Lee girl: George Pruitt newspaper - Alton Evening Telegraph, Alton IL newspaper date - Friday, 10 Sep 1909 death date - Thursday, 9 Sep 1909 death place - Jersey Co IL , a mile south of Jerseyville age - 71 years funeral - Saturday, 11 Sep 1909 So please submit your messages on any list as you expect others to do. It's only common sense and common courtesy. Others will appreciate you and you will appreciate others. Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Amen to your message Hugh. Those helpful hints would help all of us and save us valuable time - Amy Lee Windsor, Tomball, TX This E-Mail has been checked by Norton Anti-Virus and is clear of viruses. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEE] Genealogical Message Preparation All, After all the discussion I forgot a suitable SUBJECT Line. Situation remedied. Best, Hugh ___________________ In a message dated 06/24/05 4:29:52 PM, HFTHusma writes: << All, Every now and then I get the idea that some guidance needs to be published on genealogical message preparation. It seems simple enough to write a meaningful note. I receive 50 to 100 messages a day, so scanning the subjects is an important way of paring the number down to the meaningful ones. Of course, these are suggestions, but I think useful ones. SUBJECT: It would be ever so nice, if the subject line addressed the message content. Whether it be a person or a place, the time frame is critical. This gives the reader a chance to determine if the message is of interest to him/her. A subject of "hi" or "hello" or "HELP" does no not engender any interest. Personally, I delete them out of hand. TEXT: Seems to me the who, what, when, where and why are the essentials to a good message. Like any ad, brevity is a virtue. I seems a courtesy to send a "thank you" to the person who provided you with the info. The message would go to his personal Email address rather than to an entire List. Had to get it off my chest, again. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEE, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, REIDY, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD] >> Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEE, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, REIDY, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD] ==== LEE Mailing List ==== An important resource is the LEE MESSAGE BOARD for all Queries, B-M-D Records, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, & Wills. Posts will be automatically 'gatewayed' to our LEE Mailing List. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.lee ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

In a message dated 6/24/2005 3:38:04 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: TEXT: Seems to me the who, what, when, where and why are the essentials to a good message. Like any ad, brevity is a virtue. GOOD FOR YOU, HUGH. IT'S BEWILDERING THE KINDS OF MESSAGES PEOPLE SEND AND TRULY HOPE WILL BE GIVEN THOUGHTFUL REPLIES! KAY G.

All, After all the discussion I forgot a suitable SUBJECT Line. Situation remedied. Best, Hugh ___________________ In a message dated 06/24/05 4:29:52 PM, HFTHusma writes: << All, Every now and then I get the idea that some guidance needs to be published on genealogical message preparation. It seems simple enough to write a meaningful note. I receive 50 to 100 messages a day, so scanning the subjects is an important way of paring the number down to the meaningful ones. Of course, these are suggestions, but I think useful ones. SUBJECT: It would be ever so nice, if the subject line addressed the message content. Whether it be a person or a place, the time frame is critical. This gives the reader a chance to determine if the message is of interest to him/her. A subject of "hi" or "hello" or "HELP" does no not engender any interest. Personally, I delete them out of hand. TEXT: Seems to me the who, what, when, where and why are the essentials to a good message. Like any ad, brevity is a virtue. I seems a courtesy to send a "thank you" to the person who provided you with the info. The message would go to his personal Email address rather than to an entire List. Had to get it off my chest, again. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEE, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, REIDY, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD] >> Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEE, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, REIDY, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD]

All, Every now and then I get the idea that some guidance needs to be published on genealogical message preparation. It seems simple enough to write a meaningful note. I receive 50 to 100 messages a day, so scanning the subjects is an important way of paring the number down to the meaningful ones. Of course, these are suggestions, but I think useful ones. SUBJECT: It would be ever so nice, if the subject line addressed the message content. Whether it be a person or a place, the time frame is critical. This gives the reader a chance to determine if the message is of interest to him/her. A subject of "hi" or "hello" or "HELP" does no not engender any interest. Personally, I delete them out of hand. TEXT: Seems to me the who, what, when, where and why are the essentials to a good message. Like any ad, brevity is a virtue. I seems a courtesy to send a "thank you" to the person who provided you with the info. The message would go to his personal Email address rather than to an entire List. Had to get it off my chest, again. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEE, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, REIDY, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD]

Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEE, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, REIDY, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD]

Note: I see no proof that Stern has the lineage listed accurately. What brought you to this conclusion? Many Lee researchers put credibility in Dr. Paul C. Nagel's (a university professor and author of several history books) research and conclusion about the parentage of Richard Lee. Margaret Lee Bardgett [email protected] wrote: LEE-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 75 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [LEE] Va Lee's ["ted d jones" #2 Re: [LEE] Va Lee's ["John & Elnora Wyrick" #3 Abel & William Lee ["John & Elnora Wyrick" Administrivia: --- For future reference...To unsubscribe from the Digest mode of the LEE mailing list, send only the word Unsubscribe in the subject line and in the body of an email to... [email protected] Please contact me at [email protected] with any comments, questions or problems you may have regarding your subscription. Thanks, LEE Mailing List Mgr. - List Information Page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/lee.html Remember to include these five basic items in your posts to the list: WHO (complete name), WHAT (are you seeking?), WHEN (did these folks live?), WHERE (did these folks live?)and HOW (can we reach you?). --- ______________________________Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:46:55 -0400 From: "ted d jones" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] Va Lee's Stern HAS IT right. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Medicine Woman" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: [LEE] Va Lee's Board : Boards > Surnames > Lee Subject : Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees Author : Duane Miller Date : 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QIw.2ACIB/7428 Boards > Surnames > Lee URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.lee&m=7428 Subject: Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees Author: Duane Miller Date: 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT Email: [email protected] - -----------------------------------------------------I have the books "Robert E Lee, The Man, The Soldier, by Philip Van Doren Stern" and " The Lees of Virginia, Seven Generations of an American Family, by Paul C Nagel" and both tell me different on Richard Lee's parents. Stern says that Richard's parents are Richard Lee and Elizabeth Bendy and Nagel says John Lee and Jane Hancock. It did dawn on me however that Richard Lee and Anna Constable had a son named Hancock which if I were to go by naming paterns I'd lean more towards the John Lee Jane Hancock theory. I also found these this webpage that isn't any more helpful than the books, http://www.btinternet.com/~ALANSPAGE/Alstalk.htm There is a letter there (1745 Copy of a Letter from Lancelot Lee of England to the Hon.Thomas Lee, President of the Colony of Virginia, dated Coton, Shropshire, May 21st, 1745 - from "The King's Lea, p.131-133 by Gladys Howard Thompson) which makes me agree with only one fact from all three of these sources and that is the mention of Reyner de Lega in the books and the mention of a "High Sheriff" which is probably Reyner mentioned in the letter are connectected to the Virginoian Richard Lee somehow. One other thing in the Lancelot letter that makes me wonder is he says, "Your ancestor, Richard, you see, was the sixth son, so that he must have been at least that number of years younger than his brother Thomas. By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard Lee, both having estates in England and Virginia." All Richard Lee (founder of the Virginia Lees) researchers know that he came to Virginia in 1639/40 so what was the reason for Lancelot saying "By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard Lee", did he mean 1639/40 instead of 1616 which is about the time the Virginian Richard was born or did his father come to Virginia as well? So with all that I ask, does anyone know who the Virginian Richard Lee's parents are. With all the different information I've see I have no idea how anyone can make a connection to Rayner de Lega. Thanks in advance for any replies and sorry for a long post.Duane Miller Six Lakes MI __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ==== LEE Mailing List ==== When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the LEE message board, be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. Since the poster might not be a member of our LEE mailing list, they may only see your response when it is made through the board. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 6/21/05 ______________________________Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:32:49 -0700 From: "John & Elnora Wyrick" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEE] Va Lee's Seems to me the DNA Tests now being done would help sort all of this out------ There are probably other DNA Projects but, the only 2 I have had experience with are Relative Genetics http://www.relativegenetics.com/ and Family Tree DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp Please as many of you as can, do this test and let us find those distinct Lines. Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick; John G Lee>Peter Alexander Lee>John William Lee> VA to TX; ----- Original Message ----- From: "ted d jones" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [LEE] Va Lee's > Stern HAS IT right. > > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Medicine Woman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:44 PM > Subject: [LEE] Va Lee's > > > Board : Boards > Surnames > Lee > Subject : Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees > Author : Duane Miller > Date : 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QIw.2ACIB/7428 > > Boards > Surnames > Lee > URL: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.lee&m=7428 > > > Subject: Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees > Author: Duane Miller > Date: 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT > Email: [email protected] > -------------------------------------------------------I > have the books "Robert E Lee, The Man, The Soldier, by > Philip Van Doren Stern" and " The Lees of Virginia, > Seven Generations of an American Family, by Paul C > Nagel" and both tell me different on Richard Lee's > parents. Stern says that Richard's parents are Richard > Lee and Elizabeth Bendy and Nagel says John Lee and > Jane Hancock. It did dawn on me however that Richard > Lee and Anna Constable had a son named Hancock which > if I were to go by naming paterns I'd lean more > towards the John Lee Jane Hancock theory. I also found > these this webpage that isn't any more helpful than > the books, > http://www.btinternet.com/~ALANSPAGE/Alstalk.htm > > There is a letter there (1745 Copy of a Letter from > Lancelot Lee of England to the Hon.Thomas Lee, > President of the Colony of Virginia, dated Coton, > Shropshire, May 21st, 1745 - from "The King's Lea, > p.131-133 by Gladys Howard Thompson) which makes me > agree with only one fact from all three of these > sources and that is the mention of Reyner de Lega in > the books and the mention of a "High Sheriff" which is > probably Reyner mentioned in the letter are > connectected to the Virginoian Richard Lee somehow. > One other thing in the Lancelot letter that makes me > wonder is he says, "Your ancestor, Richard, you see, > was the sixth son, so that he must have been at least > that number of years younger than his brother Thomas. > By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time > you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle > aged and father of Col. Richard Lee, both having > estates in England and Virginia." All Richard Lee > (founder of the Virginia Lees) researchers know that > he came to Virginia in 1639/40 so what was the reason > for Lancelot saying "By this computation, in the year > 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he > must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard > Lee", did he mean 1639/40 instead of 1616 which is > about the time the Virginian Richard was born or did > his father come to Virginia as well? So with all that > I ask, does anyone know who the Virginian Richard > Lee's parents are. With all the different information > I've see I have no idea how anyone can make a > connection to Rayner de Lega. > > Thanks in advance for any replies and sorry for a long > post.Duane Miller Six Lakes MI > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:10:13 -0700 From: "John & Elnora Wyrick" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Abel & William Lee Does anyone know anything about or claim the Abel and William Lee found on the 1820 & 1830 in Patrick County, VA?? Are these the same as the 2 above? William was there again in 1840, but not Abel- then Abel was there in 1850 and not William?? Thanks for any help, Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick Yesterday is a memory, Tomorrow is a dream, Today is a Gift John & Elnora Cook-Wyrick Families; http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/y/r/Elnora--F-Wyrick/

Does anyone know anything about or claim the Abel and William Lee found on the 1820 & 1830 in Patrick County, VA?? Are these the same as the 2 above? William was there again in 1840, but not Abel- then Abel was there in 1850 and not William?? Thanks for any help, Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick Yesterday is a memory, Tomorrow is a dream, Today is a Gift John & Elnora Cook-Wyrick Families; http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/y/r/Elnora--F-Wyrick/

Stern HAS IT right. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Medicine Woman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: [LEE] Va Lee's Board : Boards > Surnames > Lee Subject : Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees Author : Duane Miller Date : 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QIw.2ACIB/7428 Boards > Surnames > Lee URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.lee&m=7428 Subject: Richard Lee the founder of the Virginia Lees Author: Duane Miller Date: 14 Jun 2005 10:42 PM GMT Email: [email protected] -------------------------------------------------------I have the books "Robert E Lee, The Man, The Soldier, by Philip Van Doren Stern" and " The Lees of Virginia, Seven Generations of an American Family, by Paul C Nagel" and both tell me different on Richard Lee's parents. Stern says that Richard's parents are Richard Lee and Elizabeth Bendy and Nagel says John Lee and Jane Hancock. It did dawn on me however that Richard Lee and Anna Constable had a son named Hancock which if I were to go by naming paterns I'd lean more towards the John Lee Jane Hancock theory. I also found these this webpage that isn't any more helpful than the books, http://www.btinternet.com/~ALANSPAGE/Alstalk.htm There is a letter there (1745 Copy of a Letter from Lancelot Lee of England to the Hon.Thomas Lee, President of the Colony of Virginia, dated Coton, Shropshire, May 21st, 1745 - from "The King's Lea, p.131-133 by Gladys Howard Thompson) which makes me agree with only one fact from all three of these sources and that is the mention of Reyner de Lega in the books and the mention of a "High Sheriff" which is probably Reyner mentioned in the letter are connectected to the Virginoian Richard Lee somehow. One other thing in the Lancelot letter that makes me wonder is he says, "Your ancestor, Richard, you see, was the sixth son, so that he must have been at least that number of years younger than his brother Thomas. By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard Lee, both having estates in England and Virginia." All Richard Lee (founder of the Virginia Lees) researchers know that he came to Virginia in 1639/40 so what was the reason for Lancelot saying "By this computation, in the year 1616 (at which time you say he came to Virginia), he must have been middle aged and father of Col. Richard Lee", did he mean 1639/40 instead of 1616 which is about the time the Virginian Richard was born or did his father come to Virginia as well? So with all that I ask, does anyone know who the Virginian Richard Lee's parents are. With all the different information I've see I have no idea how anyone can make a connection to Rayner de Lega. Thanks in advance for any replies and sorry for a long post.Duane Miller Six Lakes MI __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ==== LEE Mailing List ==== When responding to a 'gatewayed' post from the LEE message board, be sure to use the board addy provided in the message. Since the poster might not be a member of our LEE mailing list, they may only see your response when it is made through the board. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 6/21/05