I agree with you, but people are stumped because the abbreviation appears in the "place name" field. I say it is a mistake, or maybe people did not know where to put the information, or maybe they didn't know what the abbreviation meant and assumed it was a place. -------------------------------------------------- From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:34 PM To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ReDo: Help with abbreviations > spms refers not to places, but to the Latin terms describing the dying > without male heirs > > much like when we used d.y. to mean died young. > > clear as mud? > > W. David Samuelsen > > DC & Alice Allen wrote: >> I seem to remember, way back when I was a newbie genealogist, that we >> abbreviated county names if they were long. Usually 4 letters, often >> leaving out the vowels. This may be an abbreviation of England's >> equivelant of a county. >> >> Looking at my mother-in-law's Book of Remembrance, she has some family >> group sheets copyrighted 1972, with a separate column for county that is >> very, very small. There are also group sheets copyrighted 1941 which has >> one column for city and county, and a separate column for state or >> country. >> >> Alice Allen >> Oakhurst Ward Family History Consultant >> Vancouver WA Stake >> Portland OR Temple District >> >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** >> >> On 4/14/2009 at 5:33 AM slandersen51@att.net wrote: >> >>> A web search shows this info at this site >>> >>> http://www.webpak.net/~cdm2/kimball/pafg75.htm Perhaps you can get in >>> touch with this person and see if they know what or where "Spsm" is. I >>> wonder if it might be a battle field. >>> >>> Susan Andersen, Lancaster, Ohio >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

it's not a mistake. It is genealogical standard for ages. Even the strict standards has these in the places. David Samuelsen Jorge Todeschini wrote: > I agree with you, but people are stumped because the abbreviation appears in > the "place name" field. I say it is a mistake, or maybe people did not know > where to put the information, or maybe they didn't know what the > abbreviation meant and assumed it was a place.

Well, Dave, if you are following this thread, people "gave up" on the Latin explanation because the abbreviations appear in place names. I am trying to say yhe Latin holds regardless of the field where it was entered. -------------------------------------------------- From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:34 PM To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ReDo: Help with abbreviations > it's not a mistake. It is genealogical standard for ages. Even the > strict standards has these in the places. > > David Samuelsen > > Jorge Todeschini wrote: >> I agree with you, but people are stumped because the abbreviation appears >> in >> the "place name" field. I say it is a mistake, or maybe people did not >> know >> where to put the information, or maybe they didn't know what the >> abbreviation meant and assumed it was a place. > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am pretty sure that it is the latin meaning. People put all sorts of things in the fields if they don't know where else to put them. Just yesterday I found "killed by Indians" in the death place. I also found "+" in the names fields and someone else put "never married" in the location. I could look all day and never find a place called "Killed by Indians" or "Never married". And I am pretty sure that you won't find a place called "spm" or "spms". Miles Meyer On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Jorge Todeschini <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: > I agree with you, but people are stumped because the abbreviation appears in > the "place name" field. I say it is a mistake, or maybe people did not know > where to put the information, or maybe they didn't know what the > abbreviation meant and assumed it was a place.