A web search shows this info at this site http://www.webpak.net/~cdm2/kimball/pafg75.htm Perhaps you can get in touch with this person and see if they know what or where "Spsm" is.  I wonder if it might be a battle field. Susan Andersen, Lancaster, Ohio   ________________________________ From: Joan Raney <joanie13@gmail.com> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:20:51 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ReDo: Help with abbreviations The one with "spms" is Philip Despenser, titled Baron Despenser, born about 1365 of Nettleshead, Suffolk, England.  The "spms" is in the death place field. The one with "spm" is Robert Tiptoft, titled Baron Tybotot, born about 1340 also of Nettleshead.  The "spm" is in the death place field. I looked them both up in nFS, and amongst the many combinations, both abbreviations show, so that means that it must have come from AF or PRF, right? Does this help? Joan in NC On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Jorge Todeschini < jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: > Maybe the Latin is not "out to lunch." Who put the abbreviations there? > They > might not have known what it meant, either, and just assumed it might be a > place. Or they might have known, but could not think of another place to > put > (such as source or notes). > > I think it boils down to "where did this information come from?" > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Peter" <Family.History.Research@shaw.ca> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:27 PM > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ReDo:  Help with abbreviations > >  > At 07:51 AM 13/04/2009, you wrote: > >>OK everyone; this is open again - With the abbreviations in place name > >>fields then the Latin is out to lunch. Personally I have no idea what > >>place SPMS or SPM might be. > >>      David, San Diego District > >> > >>---- Joan Raney <joanie13@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Does anyone know what the following abbreviations mean? > >> > > SPMS > >> > > SPM > >>and later ---- Joan Raney <joanie13@gmail.com> wrote: > >>      They are in place name fields in some PAF data I'm looking at.  It > >> doesn't look like any place abbreviations I've seen before, so that's > why > >> I asked the list.  Sorry I didn't clarify where I saw the abbreviations. > >>      Joan in NC > > > > Joan, maybe if you let us know the surnames and other places for this > > family maybe that will provide clues or at least will narrow down the > > possibilities? > > > > > > Groetjes > > Peter > > > >                                  "Dutch Indians wear wooden moccasins" > >                                                - Fred J. Eaglesmith > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I seem to remember, way back when I was a newbie genealogist, that we abbreviated county names if they were long. Usually 4 letters, often leaving out the vowels. This may be an abbreviation of England's equivelant of a county. Looking at my mother-in-law's Book of Remembrance, she has some family group sheets copyrighted 1972, with a separate column for county that is very, very small. There are also group sheets copyrighted 1941 which has one column for city and county, and a separate column for state or country. Alice Allen Oakhurst Ward Family History Consultant Vancouver WA Stake Portland OR Temple District *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/14/2009 at 5:33 AM slandersen51@att.net wrote: >A web search shows this info at this site > >http://www.webpak.net/~cdm2/kimball/pafg75.htm Perhaps you can get in >touch with this person and see if they know what or where "Spsm" is.  I >wonder if it might be a battle field. > >Susan Andersen, Lancaster, Ohio >  >