If Pakistan only came into existence under that name in 1947, you need to do a bit of research to use the correct name of the country at the time the event occurred. It may make a major difference about pulling it up or not. I have people born pre 1850 in Union county TN's current land area, but it was one of several other counties up until 1850. It makes a difference which censuses they appear in, what county the land records were in, where the marriages are located, etc. Land records would have been transferred to the new county, but they wouldn't have bothered with such things as the marriage records, and probably a number of other non-current records. I suspect that to a certain extend the same is true for this situation. I would warrant that a call to Salt Lake is in order, if for no other reason than accessing family records. I suspect that since Pakistan is largely Muslim, that may have a great deal to do with what records the folks in SL make readily viewable on NFS. It is a sensitive subject to both Muslims and Jews, as well as some Christian sects, which really makes it important that we respect the rules that the Church has set up for doing the Temple work. If we ourselves don't have relatives in the near East, keep our hands off of doing the submission work ourselves, though by all means, assist members who may have relatives over there to collect the necessary information so that they can see that it gets done for THEIR families. If it isn't our family, it's not ours to submit. (Yes there's always extenuating circumstances, such as a nearly blind sister in our ward, who doesn't see well enough to do the computer entry work for Temple submissions, but she CAN sit by someone and give the direction as to who she wants entered.) Karen On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Nancy Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > Am wondering if there are any ideas from the group about a paternal > grandfather of a newly called consultant in my Ward. > > > > Her mother, who is the Contributor, is able to view the record but we are > not able to find the record or bring it in to her pedigree. > > > > She got the exact data from her mother including the PID for her paternal > grandfather but when you put in the PID, it comes up with "Unknown" for the > person with ordinances "Not Available". > > > > Her grandfather was born in India in 1898 and died in Pakistan in 1976 so > one thought I had was that it could be a restricted area and therefore not > show up. The wife of the grandfather who was born in India shows up in nFS > but she died in the US. Children of the couple are with the grandmother > who > were born in India and died as infants can be viewed so she does not feel > likely that the problem is related to a restricted area. The grandfather > does not show up with the grandmother and children even though they have > been sealed according to her mother who is the Contributor. > > > > Guess that Pakistan only came into existence about 1947 but not sure that > makes any difference. > > > > She certainly can call FamilySearch Support but I do not believe that she > has yet. > > > > I am still wondering why we can't pull him into her line. Guess that there > is no such thing as a list of the restricted areas. > > > > Thanks for any thoughts if you have had experience with this sort of > problem. > > > > Nancy Scott > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just one!