Let's pool our thoughts and find suggestions for those who have large numbers of people waiting in their personal files for ordinance work. This is a unique blessing, but it carries another pressure: having found these folks, we open ourselves to their urgency. We are counseled to send no more through the T/O (temple ordinance) file than we can provide for in a month or so. We can 1) do the names ourselves or 2) submit them to the temple system. For suggestion 1) we can involve our family, our friends, and members of our ward family. The further we spread the cards, however, the more card tracking is involved. For suggestion 2) we know that ordinances done in larger batches, such as baptism, are accomplished more quickly than other, more individual ordinances. A T/O file can fill quickly. As has been suggested, we should be the first to support increased temple attendance. If those temple-assigned ordinances appear to be languishing, it pays to copy and paste the PID back into the "Search by Number" field. Sometimes the name simply needs to be combined with other files to take care of the situation. Or, if some long-ago friend has lost a card, we can reprint for ourselves or even unreserve it so others have the opportunity. Later, even if that friend finds a card and takes it through, the scanner accepts the card. They will not be embarrassed. There is a 3) way I'd like to hear feedback on. Suppose I had extra names and simply uploaded a family to nFS for extended family members to share; might that work without over-filling my T/O file? If not, they'll still be there when my T/O file is smaller. I do not own all these names. They have other progeny, even collateral progeny besides myself. Why not allow them the opportunity? I can continue the research, if that's where I'm effective, and still reach beyond my familiar circle to get the rest of the work accomplished. In the meantime, I can use a program created to coordinate with nFS to bring the names in my own file up to date. For example, I can use Family Insight to bring my T/O information up to date in PAF. Others may use RootsMagic, Legacy, Ancestral Quest, etc. to accomplish the same thing. Most programs also have a way to create a list of potential problems within a file. That's well worth checking carefully. Finally, perhaps we may leave a few well-documented names and some puzzles for our own progeny to do. My ancestors left me their work to build upon, particularly a beloved great-aunt and some distant cousins. I've been fortunate to have modern resources to solve a few riddles they left behind so the work can continue. I hope my own children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews will do the same. Jerry __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6742 (20111225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Some goofball combined FIVE husbands of my great-great grandma into one person recently and left no clue to who the person who did the mis-merge. I had to separate them. If it wasn't for Createfan.com I wouldn't know about the problem. David Samuelsen On 12/25/2011 9:08 PM, Jerry Cowley wrote: > For example, I can use Family Insight > to bring my T/O information up to date in PAF.

It don't have to be. Use the FORs for tracking via nFS. Each entry on the FOR has the PID. I instructed my ward to use this method and they said it was the fastest method of tracking. David S. On 12/25/2011 9:08 PM, Jerry Cowley wrote: > For suggestion 1) we can involve our family, our friends, and members of our > ward family. The further we spread the cards, however, the more card > tracking is involved.

In every case in my corner, every possible duplicate have already been checked and accounted for. In almost every instance it is baptism and confirmation done but not the initiatory and endownment and it jump to sealings to parents and spouses already done. So it is not just temple submission. The difference can be spotted easily - it's the patron or it's the temple file which is usually "FamilySearch Extraction" or "LDS Extraction". LDS Extraction is older name and this one requires contacting the headquarters for release to family. Newer ones are easy to claim right away without having to contact headquarters. David Samuelsen On 12/25/2011 9:08 PM, Jerry Cowley wrote: > If those temple-assigned ordinances appear to be languishing, it pays to > copy and paste the PID back into the "Search by Number" field. Sometimes > the name simply needs to be combined with other files to take care of the > situation. Or, if some long-ago friend has lost a card, we can reprint for > ourselves or even unreserve it so others have the opportunity. Later, even > if that friend finds a card and takes it through, the scanner accepts the > card. They will not be embarrassed.

Here is a suggestion: As part of our regular housekeeping when working in new.FamilySearch, we should check to make sure how many people have been assigned to us for ordinance work. I recently learned this one the hard way. I didn't know it, but thousands of names had been assigned to me. I still don't know how it happened and the FamilySearch missionary who worked with me to get the mistake corrected couldn't explain the mystery either. I knew I had not lined up any of my ancestors for temple ordinance work recently, so I was totally unaware of the problem until someone contacted me to ask if I'd release his ancestor's name, because his family was planning a temple trip and wanted to do the work. Of course, I immediately released that person. I was shocked to discover all the thousands that had been assigned!!! The weren't my relatives -- absolutely no one in my direct line. Some other strange things happened around the same time. For instance, someone baptized my aunt who is living and doesn't appreciate the fact that I'm working on family history, because she's afraid I'll dig up secrets I promised I'd never share secrets and had put safeguards into my personal database so it would be impossible to accidentally print secrets. I am the only member in my family and have been very careful not to offend anyone, always checking with them about what I write. She would have a giant tizzy fit if she knew that someone had baptized her as a Mormon.. :) Not to worry -- I got it fixed -- but I learned that we need to just check out what's going on in new.FamilySearch to make sure some giagantic error has not been made. Now,. I've got a question for you all: Do you have any examples of things you've done a create more attractive Family History Centers to comple with recent instruction from leaders to make our centers more like "portals to the Temple"? Carlyine Ritter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Cowley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:08 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] For those with large numbers of names > Let's pool our thoughts and find suggestions for those who have large > numbers of people waiting in their personal files for ordinance work. > This > is a unique blessing, but it carries another pressure: having found these > folks, we open ourselves to their urgency. > > We are counseled to send no more through the T/O (temple ordinance) file > than we can provide for in a month or so. We can 1) do the names > ourselves > or 2) submit them to the temple system. > > For suggestion 1) we can involve our family, our friends, and members of > our > ward family. The further we spread the cards, however, the more card > tracking is involved. > > For suggestion 2) we know that ordinances done in larger batches, such as > baptism, are accomplished more quickly than other, more individual > ordinances. A T/O file can fill quickly. As has been suggested, we should > be > the first to support increased temple attendance. > > If those temple-assigned ordinances appear to be languishing, it pays to > copy and paste the PID back into the "Search by Number" field. Sometimes > the name simply needs to be combined with other files to take care of the > situation. Or, if some long-ago friend has lost a card, we can reprint for > ourselves or even unreserve it so others have the opportunity. Later, > even > if that friend finds a card and takes it through, the scanner accepts the > card. They will not be embarrassed. > > There is a 3) way I'd like to hear feedback on. Suppose I had extra names > and simply uploaded a family to nFS for extended family members to share; > might that work without over-filling my T/O file? If not, they'll still be > there when my T/O file is smaller. I do not own all these names. They have > other progeny, even collateral progeny besides myself. Why not allow them > the opportunity? I can continue the research, if that's where I'm > effective, and still reach beyond my familiar circle to get the rest of > the > work accomplished. > > In the meantime, I can use a program created to coordinate with nFS to > bring > the names in my own file up to date. For example, I can use Family > Insight > to bring my T/O information up to date in PAF. Others may use RootsMagic, > Legacy, Ancestral Quest, etc. to accomplish the same thing. Most programs > also have a way to create a list of potential problems within a file. > That's well worth checking carefully. > > Finally, perhaps we may leave a few well-documented names and some puzzles > for our own progeny to do. My ancestors left me their work to build upon, > particularly a beloved great-aunt and some distant cousins. I've been > fortunate to have modern resources to solve a few riddles they left behind > so the work can continue. I hope my own children, grandchildren, nieces > and > nephews will do the same. > > Jerry > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 6742 (20111225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4106 - Release Date: 12/27/11 >

Carly. I have recently been called to be centre director in our ward building. So my way is still very new. But, I have seen some things and have plans: At our stake centre I have seen lists with classes during the week. (That is what I/we will have to have too, since everyone are busy during Sunday school - our ward being very small). What can I do to have ancestors ready to take along to the temple? How do I get started? Why is order so important in family history? How to keep it easy and simple: How do I keep track of what is to be done? Computer programs for family history which should I choose?: I have found a number of programs at the opening page of NFS corresponding with NFS. And have installed as many as I could at the centre. Books, maps and other tools to make family history easier: Etc. I do not know which courses I will be giving, but as I discover needs I will make them along the way. Along with a column in the ward Sunday news once or twice a month, notifying the members that something is going on at the centre. And suggestions on how to get to know your ancestors. I even found new family members among my friends from former wards using NFS. It is so great. A sister I was visiting teacher many years ago had requested that my husband play at her funeral. She died in 2006. As I got to NFS in 2008 I discovered that she and a brother from the other stake and I all are descendants from a family where the parents married in 1818. They had 14 children and 9 died before they were 3 years old. From the last 5 Marete, Hans and I are 3 of a LOT descendents. I know of at least another 10 - 15 people that are doing family history from their descendents. Good luck - I for sure will need it :) And may the Lord bless your efforts - probably more effective than whishing for luck. :) Helle Now,. I've got a question for you all: Do you have any examples of things you've done a create more attractive Family History Centers to comple with recent instruction from leaders to make our centers more like "portals to the Temple"? Carlyine Ritter

Helle, Congratulations. It's a great calling. My ward in tiny also, and it does limit our chances of getting good ideas going. The work is so important, and I enjoy it so much, that I will keep trying. I love the idea of classes. Maybe a very short -- 15-minute -- class right after church, complete with finger food so folks won't starve before they get home for lunch would work. I like some of your ideas. Thanks for sharing. Carly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helle T. Hirschmann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Centers as portals to the temple > Carly. > > I have recently been called to be centre director in our ward building. > So my way is still very new. > > But, I have seen some things and have plans: > > At our stake centre I have seen lists with classes during the week. > (That is what I/we will have to have too, since everyone are busy during > Sunday school - our ward being very small). > > What can I do to have ancestors ready to take along to the temple? > > How do I get started? > > Why is order so important in family history? How to keep it easy and > simple: > > How do I keep track of what is to be done? > > Computer programs for family history which should I choose?: > I have found a number of programs at the opening page of NFS corresponding > with NFS. And have installed as many as I could at the centre. > > Books, maps and other tools to make family history easier: > > Etc. > > I do not know which courses I will be giving, but as I discover needs I > will > make them along the way. > Along with a column in the ward Sunday news once or twice a month, > notifying > the members that something is going on at the centre. And suggestions on > how > to get to know your ancestors. > I even found new family members among my friends from former wards using > NFS. It is so great. > A sister I was visiting teacher many years ago had requested that my > husband > play at her funeral. She died in 2006. > As I got to NFS in 2008 I discovered that she and a brother from the other > stake and I all are descendants from a family where the parents married in > 1818. They had 14 children and 9 died before they were 3 years old. From > the > last 5 Marete, Hans and I are 3 of a LOT descendents. I know of at least > another 10 - 15 people that are doing family history from their > descendents. > > Good luck - I for sure will need it :) > And may the Lord bless your efforts - probably more effective than > whishing > for luck. :) > > Helle > > > Now,. I've got a question for you all: Do you have any examples of things > you've done a create more attractive Family History Centers to comple with > recent instruction from leaders to make our centers more like "portals to > the Temple"? > Carlyine Ritter > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4108 - Release Date: 12/28/11 >