Well said. Go with the system. Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Jay Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple > Why create a new bucket system? - Especially one that is paper-driven. > The Provo Temple is serving 80 stakes. > How many drawers will this approach take there? > How long will it take to find cards that are filed in the wrong stake > drawer/box? > Isn't this really yesterday's approach? > We're computerized now - let's run with that approach. > > Wouldn't it equalize the speed and perceived fairness, by using the > new "Share" button and sharing our submitted names with all Temples - > and not having them sidelined to the one where we happen to live? > > That way - all submitted names will be completed in the order in which > they were submitted. > > All Temple goers and "name submitters" would have the satisfaction of > knowing that they are helping out fellow Church members around the > world - by doing the work and by providing names for the Temple > coupled with the quiet satisfaction of seeing that their names are > getting done. > > Let's equalize the flow - otherwise we'll all have to move to Provo if > we want to ever see our names completed. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Steve Kelsey <sjkelsey@msn.com> wrote: >> All family files and cards at the temple unless taken there personally to >> do >> the work have been >> foirbidden in the temples that I know of. I used to take 4 or 500 >> baptism >> cards and 800 or >> so sealings cards per week to the Salt Lake Temple and would pick them up >> the next week >> and leave a batch for the next week. This worked well and everyone >> seemed >> pleased about it. >> In January of 2011 this was supposed to be stopped entirely on a >> temple-wide >> basis. >> Any names for the temple to do were to come in through the system and not >> through individuals >> leaving them at the temple. This is strictly enforced in Salt Lake, >> Jordan >> River, and Oquirrh >> temples and I thought strictly enfored temple wide but now find that is >> not >> the case. My >> temple-shared names number more than 4,000 in the backlog--many from >> 2010. >> Most >> of these are children to parent sealings and male endowments. Baptisms >> and >> sealing to >> spouse seem to go very quickly. Others go very, very slowly. Female >> endowments about >> 5 to 6 months, male endowments about a year. I am puzzled why the >> children >> to parents >> sealings take so long--some from 2 years ago. >> The idea behind this was to make patrons use the system to send names to >> the >> temple. I >> have followed this strictly for 2 years. If I can do something else to >> get >> them done more >> quickly, it would be great. BUT I am trying to follow the guidelines >> which >> were certainly >> strict starting in 2011. In fact, shortly after this went into effect >> and >> was clearly stated >> to temple workers not to do, a temple worker did take names and attempt >> to >> leave them >> and was severely reprimanded for not follow the protocol. >> >> Steve Kelsey >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <JCBrooks@aol.com> >> To: <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 12:55 AM >> Subject: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple >> >> >>> Supposedly copying a successful program in use at the San Diego Temple, >>> the >>> Newport Beach temple has initiated a stake temple file where patrons can >>> leave their printed cards for others to do. It is freely accessed by >>> patrons in a bureau in the foyer. Rather than take temple issued name >>> slips, >>> patrons can do family names for others in their stake. >>> >>> While on the surface, this sounds like a nice idea, it seems to me to >>> undo >>> the "first come first serve" plan when folks submit names to the temple >>> file which they or their own family cannot finish. Since we have a >>> small >>> temple, the volume of names which will be served by the temple file will >>> decrease dramatically. This, coupled with the fact that we know that >>> names are >>> directed to the closest temple of the submitter, seems contrary to the >>> whole >>> FamilySearch temple system. >>> >>> I am personally frustrated as I have 600+ names waiting in line in the >>> FamilySearch temple file to be served and I played by the rules. >>> >>> How are they getting away with this? >>> >>> Is it happening at any other temples? >>> >>> Michele >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Rather than hearing from 3rd party, I called Newport Beach Temple's recorder office. Here is what they said. This is the system they developed to serve 16 stakes. It is working very well. Patrons bring in their cards to be filed with their stake file drawers that are set up in foyer area. Each week the stake coordinators come in to pick up the completed cards and take back to their stakes to be returned to the persons. (the stake do maintain membership lists within their stakes, which is possible through stake/ward website via lds.org) To each temple a system is developed whatever work best. The ones I released to temple system are still there since 2009. My stake is assigned to 3 different temples due to language restrction at Salt Lake Temple which is English only. My stake has 4 different languages, English, Japanese (Dai Ichi, oldest Japanese speaking ward), Spanish and ASL (sign language.) This is something your stake might consider as a way forward to help members get more done. W. David Samuelsen

Names released to the temple system in 2009 and before have a glitch. I'd give you a KD but the whole system is down. You have to go in and release each one and reserve them again to ever get them going again because there are too many for the engineers to work with. Shanna -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:24 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple Rather than hearing from 3rd party, I called Newport Beach Temple's recorder office. Here is what they said. This is the system they developed to serve 16 stakes. It is working very well. Patrons bring in their cards to be filed with their stake file drawers that are set up in foyer area. Each week the stake coordinators come in to pick up the completed cards and take back to their stakes to be returned to the persons. (the stake do maintain membership lists within their stakes, which is possible through stake/ward website via lds.org) To each temple a system is developed whatever work best. The ones I released to temple system are still there since 2009. My stake is assigned to 3 different temples due to language restrction at Salt Lake Temple which is English only. My stake has 4 different languages, English, Japanese (Dai Ichi, oldest Japanese speaking ward), Spanish and ASL (sign language.) This is something your stake might consider as a way forward to help members get more done. W. David Samuelsen Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message