While we're on the subject, I want to kick a female out of the family who was submitted by somebody whose email is no longer valid. She has a male name according to this person, but I have extensive info on the male by the same name in the family, and the marriage info is there, with the kids and appropriate temple work has been done. Am I going to have to put a dispute on her, or is there another way to remove the mythical female from the family since I can't contact the submitter? There's certainly no reason to waste time doing temple work for her. Karen On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > That's fine if there were changes (there were no changes to the > indentifying info for the person)...and believe me I cannot tell you how > spitting mad > I am at the sister who put her line in my well researched line and > wouldn't change it even though it would have required the father to be 12 > years > old to be the parent of this child. Our research group of 40 non members > has > done meticulous primary source work. She said.."Oh I saw it in a book" > and refused to make changes. I will be EMBARRASSED when NFS goes to the > public because it is such a mess. > > BUT, when all you ask for is a ordinance to be released from limbo (and we > all know there are thousands being held by Family Search and hundreds of > thousands by Legacy folks), you shouldn't have to walk through the same > steps > as you do to change a date, relationship or place. Further, why is it so > crazy hard since they allow us to put multiple choice names/dates/places on > the summary if we all agree it's the same person. > > Driving me crazy. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/2/2012 1:13:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I think that to make changes that FamilySearch has come up with a "form" > sort of reply. It is not perfect but it works for the most part. > Because > some research has been done poorly with little actual documentation, I > believe that they need to ask for whatever you can provide before they > make > the changes. > > > > I really want nFS to become something that will be acceptable to Heavenly > Father. There is so much to do and also perfecting of the Saints in > cooperation of working together with the Spirit. > > > > I had a situation similar to this and was able to come up with the data, > though I am not sure exactly how. I believe there was help from the other > side showing me where the records were. I was amazed I could find them. > It > was a change that I made helping a member who had done the work poorly and > another relative who was not checking sources before reserving work. I > managed to keep unnecessary and incorrect ordinances from being done by > the > process which would have not happened before nFS. > > > > There are programs that will convert into jpgs and this is where Family > History Consultants can be available to help others in their Wards. JPGs > work well for almost all operating systems and have less problems with > associated with possible virus so it makes sense to me that they are > preferring that format. > > > > Nancy Scott > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just one!
A sister in our stake had a problem with one woman - her 2 husbands all of a sudden were together in one. She erroneously had combined them. The problem was to find the way to uncombine and isolating. In her case it was kind of simple but where a number of people have combined in various ways and with wrong genders it is more complicated. I had one case where one sister had submitted a husband as wife and wife as husband and added 4 of their 8 children to this odd couple. I did all the un combining I could and then I asked SLC for assistance on correcting the gender of the couple. Then finally I could get all the children together witn their correct counterparts. I do not know if this is a help in this case - but un-combining has been a solution to many of the problems I have encountered. Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne af Karen Tippets Sendt: 2. juni 2012 23:17 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Requirements for Corrections While we're on the subject, I want to kick a female out of the family who was submitted by somebody whose email is no longer valid. She has a male name according to this person, but I have extensive info on the male by the same name in the family, and the marriage info is there, with the kids and appropriate temple work has been done. Am I going to have to put a dispute on her, or is there another way to remove the mythical female from the family since I can't contact the submitter? There's certainly no reason to waste time doing temple work for her. Karen
Karen - I had success with doing this type of thing a couple of times. Maybe I was just lucky in who got my help request but this is what I did: 1) reserved the person with the wrong gender so the work would not be done in error while the process worked it's way through. 2) Created a case, included my helper info (I know - why? since the system knows who I am when I create the case, but they always ask). 3) Described the problem (bogus female of same name, etc. as real male). Expressed my concern in wanting to improve the integrity of the data. Asked them to delete (they most likely won't delete the bad record, but just suppress it so it is not visible) or suppress it from public view 4) Included links to pertinent documents that supported my request. In most cases, I was lucky in that I was able to point to multiple census & vital records that happened to be available for these families on FamilySearch, so I just re-did the search, found them, copy & pasted the URLs into my case request. 5) got a fairly quick response thanking me for my concern about the integrity of the data and saying that my request had been forwarded to the appropriate department/people. 6) got a fairly quick response from that department/person that the record had been suppressed. All in all it took about a week or two and was done. That's what worked for me. On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Karen Tippets <[email protected]> wrote: > While we're on the subject, I want to kick a female out of the family who > was submitted by somebody whose email is no longer valid. She has a male > name according to this person, but I have extensive info on the male by the > same name in the family, and the marriage info is there, with the kids and > appropriate temple work has been done. > > Am I going to have to put a dispute on her, or is there another way to > remove the mythical female from the family since I can't contact the > submitter? There's certainly no reason to waste time doing temple work for > her. > > Karen > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That's fine if there were changes (there were no changes to the > > indentifying info for the person)...and believe me I cannot tell you how > > spitting mad > > I am at the sister who put her line in my well researched line and > > wouldn't change it even though it would have required the father to be 12 > > years > > old to be the parent of this child. Our research group of 40 non members > > has > > done meticulous primary source work. She said.."Oh I saw it in a book" > > and refused to make changes. I will be EMBARRASSED when NFS goes to the > > public because it is such a mess. > > > > BUT, when all you ask for is a ordinance to be released from limbo (and > we > > all know there are thousands being held by Family Search and hundreds of > > thousands by Legacy folks), you shouldn't have to walk through the same > > steps > > as you do to change a date, relationship or place. Further, why is it > so > > crazy hard since they allow us to put multiple choice names/dates/places > on > > the summary if we all agree it's the same person. > > > > Driving me crazy. > > > > Michele > > > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2012 1:13:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > I think that to make changes that FamilySearch has come up with a "form" > > sort of reply. It is not perfect but it works for the most part. > > Because > > some research has been done poorly with little actual documentation, I > > believe that they need to ask for whatever you can provide before they > > make > > the changes. > > > > > > > > I really want nFS to become something that will be acceptable to > Heavenly > > Father. There is so much to do and also perfecting of the Saints in > > cooperation of working together with the Spirit. > > > > > > > > I had a situation similar to this and was able to come up with the data, > > though I am not sure exactly how. I believe there was help from the > other > > side showing me where the records were. I was amazed I could find them. > > It > > was a change that I made helping a member who had done the work poorly > and > > another relative who was not checking sources before reserving work. I > > managed to keep unnecessary and incorrect ordinances from being done by > > the > > process which would have not happened before nFS. > > > > > > > > There are programs that will convert into jpgs and this is where Family > > History Consultants can be available to help others in their Wards. > JPGs > > work well for almost all operating systems and have less problems with > > associated with possible virus so it makes sense to me that they are > > preferring that format. > > > > > > > > Nancy Scott > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just > one! > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dan Taysom [email protected]