Has anyone with Scandinvavian descent figured out what we can do with duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches that show up to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates or not? Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were intended to be "mine" or somebody else's match. Too many Ols Olesson's I guess with no dates or places attached, and I am sure the problem is very similar in Denmark and Norway. And as a convert, I have to go quite a way back to find a common ancestor with someone else who's in the Church on any of my lines. Karen In a message dated 6/14/2009 11:30:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Just remind all those cousins that they can "have it your way." Combine and then just show a certain version every time they open the family. The other thing I can't seem to get people to understand is that every green arrow is NOT to be clicked and printed for temple work...that just means MORE duplications. It should come to mean there are possible duplicates....especially in those pioneer lines. They must combine!!! Michele In a message dated 6/14/2009 3:55:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hwhitcomb@gmail.com writes: As Utah rolls out.. we will see more squabbling between cousins and disputing etc. Disputing information on nFS makes a real mess. **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F ) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F )

One way is to contact the person who entered the information... or hope that they will soon join nFS and claim their submissions. By the way, this is not a Scandinavian problem. Whenever information is little, the doubt is great, no matter what language or culture. From: Sahara346@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:37 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... Has anyone with Scandinvavian descent figured out what we can do with duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches that show up to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates or not? Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were intended to be "mine" or somebody else's match. Too many Ols Olesson's I guess with no dates or places attached, and I am sure the problem is very similar in Denmark and Norway. And as a convert, I have to go quite a way back to find a common ancestor with someone else who's in the Church on any of my lines. Karen In a message dated 6/14/2009 11:30:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Just remind all those cousins that they can "have it your way." Combine and then just show a certain version every time they open the family. The other thing I can't seem to get people to understand is that every green arrow is NOT to be clicked and printed for temple work...that just means MORE duplications. It should come to mean there are possible duplicates....especially in those pioneer lines. They must combine!!! Michele In a message dated 6/14/2009 3:55:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hwhitcomb@gmail.com writes: As Utah rolls out.. we will see more squabbling between cousins and disputing etc. Disputing information on nFS makes a real mess. **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F ) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F ) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karen wrote: Has anyone with Scandinavian descent figured out what we can do with duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches that show up to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates or not? Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were intended to be "mine" or somebody else's match. Karen, As mentioned by Jorge, the first thing would be to contact the submitter and see if you can determine from their records if they are talking about the same person. Frequently, the vague/incomplete information is coming from a temple submission. If that is the case, I would find the entry in the IGI and see if it was patron submitted or if there is a microfilmed record it is coming from. If it is a record source, go to the film and determine like you would in research, if it is the same person. If it is coming from an old temple recorder's book, I would recommend having someone take a look at that record for you. Frequently, there is a proxy name with their relationship to the person for whom they are doing the work. That would also let you know more about the identity of the person. I have merged some identities that nobody would merge, except that I have seen the recorder's book, and the proxy and relationship information that was not extracted into the IGI makes it clear who the person was. Unfortunately, none of these solutions is easy. Cleaning up nFS is going to take some time and effort. I wish for us all . . . great patience! :-) Enjoy your Sabbath, Jill Crandell

I have a lot of scandinavian ancestors and one other big problem is that many of them were combined erroneously in Ancestral File. Those can only be separated by contacting the help folks, and some of mine are still partially erroneously combined despite numerous conversations with the help desk. On those, I've just decided to give up for awhile. Paula On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Jill N. Crandell wrote: > Karen wrote: > Has anyone with Scandinavian descent figured out what we can do with > duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches > that show > up to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates > or not? > > Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were > intended to > be "mine" or somebody else's match. > > Karen, > As mentioned by Jorge, the first thing would be to contact the > submitter and > see if you can determine from their records if they are talking > about the > same person. Frequently, the vague/incomplete information is coming > from a > temple submission. If that is the case, I would find the entry in > the IGI > and see if it was patron submitted or if there is a microfilmed > record it is > coming from. If it is a record source, go to the film and determine > like you > would in research, if it is the same person. If it is coming from an > old > temple recorder's book, I would recommend having someone take a look > at that > record for you. Frequently, there is a proxy name with their > relationship to > the person for whom they are doing the work. That would also let you > know > more about the identity of the person. I have merged some identities > that > nobody would merge, except that I have seen the recorder's book, and > the > proxy and relationship information that was not extracted into the > IGI makes > it clear who the person was. > > Unfortunately, none of these solutions is easy. Cleaning up nFS is > going to > take some time and effort. I wish for us all . . . great > patience! :-) > > Enjoy your Sabbath, > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Sahara346@aol.com wrote: > Has anyone with Scandinvavian descent figured out what we can do with > duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches that show up > to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates or not? > Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were intended to > be "mine" or somebody else's match. Too many Ols Olesson's I guess with > no dates or places attached, and I am sure the problem is very similar in > Denmark and Norway. Do tell!. I have enough problems with the Danish as it is. > And as a convert, I have to go quite a way back to find a common ancestor > with someone else who's in the Church on any of my lines. I wonder.... because just last week I discovered quite a number of 2nd and 3rd cousins while helping a friend of mine last week. She never heard of those on her mother's side. Her mother was an agnostic non-LDS. Never know the surprises might be much closer than you think. David Samuelsen