David, I am curious where you received the Rule #4 from as you don't list any source. What exactly does it mean that the name is not valid? Does that mean that one cannot perform temple ordinances for the individual? If this is a directive from NFS, they should update their User Guide and give a new rule of how one submits a married woman's name if you do not know the given name and maiden name are not known OR state that they are not allowing us to enter the data in this format. I feel that taking away the possibility for women to have their ordinance work done with Mrs. is unfair. In the past, a woman was so dependent on her husband for her identity that there are many instances where one can find data on the husband to have work done but not the wife. If one uses common sense and links this individual to another person who does have sufficient data, then you can have enough information to make the wife unique. One of my biggest gripes about junk data is the church extraction programs. They list a couple with the marriage date and place but no other information when you know that they have it on microfilm somewhere. The other extraction problem is that they will just list the individual's name and it comes up as a possible match but there is not date and no date can be found at FamilySearch.org or on the IIGI. I have complained about this that it is a waste of bytes and User time but they have just said that the projects vary in what data they record. I have found for almost every extraction entry that I come across that it is incomplete. Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:06 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Unnamed Children Not according to the rules I received this afternoon. Here's the section about this.... #4 rule Checks invalid name in any piece of a name. If any of the following names appear in any of the pieces of a name, the name is not valid: Living, unknown, unk, body, anan, anonym, anonymous, dead, data, deceased, died, entry, information, his, her, listed, married, misc, name, never, not, no issue, not known, not named, other, record, records, unnamed, yes, no, ancestor, ancester, woman, women, man, men, female, male, live, Mr., Mrs., Miss David Samuelsen amy griffin wrote: > I work at the Mesa, AZ Temple and we have been instructed to use Miss or Mr. when there is no given first name. I have seen this happen a few times. I haven't done it in nFS but some of the cards I have seen came from the Temple. As Carrie stated, as long ass the sex of the child, the parents and the dates are identified, it should go through. > > Amy > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message