Hi, I asked at the temple about this because of two situations: I have found many children sealed to their parents, but the parents do not have their temple work done. I also have married couples sealed but work done for only one spouse. This is what I was told: 1. Always do the temple work in order - Baptism to sealing parents and then sealing children 2. If sealings or other work has been completed but some of the ordinances are missing, the completed ordinances will not be considered valid until the other work is filled in. They will show as done. You do not need to redo the completed ordinances when they are done out of order - just complete the work not yet done and all work will be valid. If this differs from anyone else's information, please let me know. I had a second experience when we took a youth baptism trip to Manhattan. We did baptisms and confirmations and the cards were verified as done. I took the cards to the Washington DC Temple for the temple to complete the rest of the work. After a few months and after going on nFS, I discovered that for my friend, my husband, and me (for my husband and me 63 cards), the B and C had never been recorded at the Manhattan Temple (there had been a power failure that day). All the sudden, the iniatories, endowments, and sealings were showing up as done, but the B and C look as if we had never done the work. I did get all the women's cards back from WASHI eventually, but the temple had asked permission to send the men's cards to other temples to do and I agreed, so I will never get the men's cards back. I did scan all the women's cards and send them to Manhattan where they were sent to SL. I was hoping SL would rescan the women's cards. So far this has not occurred despite conversations with both temples. I am being patient on that issue. The bottom line is that I think the 3 of us involved may have to redo all the baptisms and confirmations for these 90 people using our tracking sheets, but for the time being I am waiting for communication. I asked the temple worker from family file in Manhattan if the I, E, and SS and SP would be honored if the B and C came after the other work, or would we have to redo that? [As you can imagine, nFS would not allow me to redo the work because it is listed as done, and anyone who does not know the situation can go into nFS (I think) and do the B & C anyway as they appear as "Ready."] But the Manhattan temple worker told me that the other work will be honored even if we have to do the B&C over and they appear as a later date. For our discussion though, the rest of the work (I-sealings) will not have to be redone. You can check a person to see if you like: Amanda Jane Logue KV2S-XS2 I stress, though, that The Church wants us to do our temple work in order. On this second matter, I will give it a few more months, and if it is not cleared up, I will contact the Salt Lake City Temple, where my names with PIDS and the women's card scans now reside. I know that everyone is busy. Sylvia Sonneborn York, PA -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Kelsey Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:58 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] ordinances done in order I thought the rule was: Children should not be sealed to their parents unless their parents Have first been sealed. On the temple ordinance pages of nfs the "on hold" classification occurs; However, note that for children who die before 8 years old they all appear As able to be sealed to their parents BEFORE the parents are sealed and While the status of the parents sealing is "on hold." Is this an error In the program? I checked to see if the sealing for the child to the Unmarried parents went through and it certainly does. Stephen Kelsey Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sylvia, If you want to keep the B & C from being redone by anyone who sees it in NFS for now until it is straightened out, you could go to FS FamilyTree and enter the data yourself as having been completed at least for the women. I'm not sure if they are accepting this information as a validation of the work or not if it is entered into FS Family Tree? Jill or anyone else know the answer to that one? Or even have an idea where one should look to find the answer? Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia H. Sonneborn Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 01:31 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] Ordinances Done in Order Preferred Hi, I asked at the temple about this because of two situations: I have found many children sealed to their parents, but the parents do not have their temple work done. I also have married couples sealed but work done for only one spouse. This is what I was told: 1. Always do the temple work in order - Baptism to sealing parents and then sealing children 2. If sealings or other work has been completed but some of the ordinances are missing, the completed ordinances will not be considered valid until the other work is filled in. They will show as done. You do not need to redo the completed ordinances when they are done out of order - just complete the work not yet done and all work will be valid. If this differs from anyone else's information, please let me know. I had a second experience when we took a youth baptism trip to Manhattan. We did baptisms and confirmations and the cards were verified as done. I took the cards to the Washington DC Temple for the temple to complete the rest of the work. After a few months and after going on nFS, I discovered that for my friend, my husband, and me (for my husband and me 63 cards), the B and C had never been recorded at the Manhattan Temple (there had been a power failure that day). All the sudden, the iniatories, endowments, and sealings were showing up as done, but the B and C look as if we had never done the work. I did get all the women's cards back from WASHI eventually, but the temple had asked permission to send the men's cards to other temples to do and I agreed, so I will never get the men's cards back. I did scan all the women's cards and send them to Manhattan where they were sent to SL. I was hoping SL would rescan the women's cards. So far this has not occurred despite conversations with both temples. I am being patient on that issue. The bottom line is that I think the 3 of us involved may have to redo all the baptisms and confirmations for these 90 people using our tracking sheets, but for the time being I am waiting for communication. I asked the temple worker from family file in Manhattan if the I, E, and SS and SP would be honored if the B and C came after the other work, or would we have to redo that? [As you can imagine, nFS would not allow me to redo the work because it is listed as done, and anyone who does not know the situation can go into nFS (I think) and do the B & C anyway as they appear as "Ready."] But the Manhattan temple worker told me that the other work will be honored even if we have to do the B&C over and they appear as a later date. For our discussion though, the rest of the work (I-sealings) will not have to be redone. You can check a person to see if you like: Amanda Jane Logue KV2S-XS2 I stress, though, that The Church wants us to do our temple work in order. On this second matter, I will give it a few more months, and if it is not cleared up, I will contact the Salt Lake City Temple, where my names with PIDS and the women's card scans now reside. I know that everyone is busy. Sylvia Sonneborn York, PA -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Kelsey Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:58 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] ordinances done in order I thought the rule was: Children should not be sealed to their parents unless their parents Have first been sealed. On the temple ordinance pages of nfs the "on hold" classification occurs; However, note that for children who die before 8 years old they all appear As able to be sealed to their parents BEFORE the parents are sealed and While the status of the parents sealing is "on hold." Is this an error In the program? I checked to see if the sealing for the child to the Unmarried parents went through and it certainly does. Stephen Kelsey Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message