We have always been instructed to never use 'son' or 'daughter'. As long as the sex of the child is entered it will be on a pink or blue card accordingly and should be addressed by 'Miss' or 'Mr.' As someone stated earlier, if son or daughter is used too often it will come up for combining for all of them with that as the name. Male and female should never be used as a first name, either. The sex will also determine that. However, I have had instances where a child was born but the sex was not enter, just that it was stillborn or died shortly after birth. Those are the ones that I have no idea what to do with. Amy > From: nascott@cinci.rr.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:04:41 -0400 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Rejected un-named children! > > For clarification, I only used Mrs. Mary Doe as a possible name. Not sure > why you state that NFS does not recognize "Mrs." > > If you have an individual to connect the name to who has sufficient data, > she will be unique because of the other information you have entered. > > > User's Guide to NFS on page 154 actually addresses when a first name is not > known. It says that if you do not know the mother's first name, enter Mrs. > plus her husband's last name or family name. For a child who died before > being named, enter Son or Daughter plus the father's last name or family > name. > > Son or Daughter sounds the same as what the Recorder said only not in > German. This is not a bug that needs any correction in my opinion. > > Nancy Scott > Cincinnati, Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David > Samuelsen > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 02:13 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Rejected un-named children! > > Mrs. Mary Doe is frowned upon in no uncertain terms. Found out hard way > - the possibilities of more than one "Mrs. Mary Doe" multiple real fast > and nfs doesn't recognize "Mrs." > > nFS nearly classified one of my ancestors Elizabeth Gent as Elizabeth, > with "Gent" listed as a suffix! Gent stands for Gentleman. > > nFS DOES accept given names only if listed as spouses. > > David Samuelsen > > Nancy Scott wrote: > > David, > > > > If I found Mary as a name for a wife, I would put Mrs. Mary Doe. Seems to > > be the same to me for following the record as for the unnamed child. > > > > I think you are making it too difficult. > > > > Nancy Scott > > Cincinnati, Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David > > Samuelsen > > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:26 AM > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Rejected un-named children! > > > > no can do with Mr or Miss when it come to German records. It's son or > > daughter. Nothing else. And we have been advised, cautioned, warned, and > > adominished about following the record to ensure accuracy. > > > > Those programmers must have not been German enough to know the difference. > > > > David Samuelsen > > > > Megan Smith wrote: > >> Please don't put "unnamed child" in to get around the system - the system > > >> will accept "Mr." or "Miss". When we see "unnamed child" at our Temple, > > we > >> put a note on the cards for the patron the speak with the Recorder. Just > > >> last night I found the death certificate of a baby who lived 5 hours. > She > > > >> was unnamed, and the system took her as "Miss Cardstensen" just fine, so > > it > >> does work and is appropriate. > >> > >> Megan Smith > >> Las Vegas Nevada Temple District > >> > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message