I have to say that I agree with the clarification of the clarification that Bro. Samuelson just gave in the previous thread and it was worded very well. I believe reason you need to get permission at 110 from the nearest living relative is so you are sure the person is deceased and did not live beyond 110 years old. In the clarification that Support sent, if they would have worded it the way Bro. Samuelson just did it would have been perfect in my opinion. My nonmember husband who is very good at understanding things and I had a very long discussion about this last night. In the end, I just avoided addressing it on my 3x5 cards that I hand out. He felt that the clarification said that between 95 and 110 years that you could do the work if you had permission from the closest living relative but the death date was not known. He also said that he thought was what David was saying in my forwards emails to him. My husband and I discussed this until we both were laughing so hard that we could not quit laughing. I had the thought later in the evening that I wondered if Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother were thinking, "Those kids" and shaking their heads. I looked at every possible reference I could find searching the NEW online Member's Guide to Temple and Family History and the NFS User's Guide and came up with 2 rules on my card and DELAYED addressing the 95-110 year thing until I was completely sure of the clarification. What I put on my 3x5 cards is: To Submit Temple Work For: 1. Persons born within the last 95 years & death date is known: Obtain Permission from the closest living relative, in order; Un-divorced spouse, adult children, parents, then siblings. Birth years 1915-2009 require above permission. 2. For all persons born within the last 110 years or married within the last 95 years, You must provide death information (a death date or death place.) Birth years 1899-2009 require death known. 3. All qualified persons, wait one year from death date to submit Church Family History Websites: New.FamilySearch.org, Labs.FamilySearch.org, www.FamilySearch.org Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:01 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] reserved names not quite correct Stephen J. Kelsey wrote: > Using the guidelines recently presented here, > 1) if someone has a relationship and > 2) the person was born 110 years ago or more no requirement to obtain permission from closest. > 3) the person was born 95 years ago and you have a death date 95 years or less - must have death date and have permission. the key is BETWEEN 95 years and 110 years, where no death date can be located, the ordinances is delayed to 110 years and still get permission from nearlest relative at 110. > Then you can do the work. > Is this correct? > > This does not seem to be completely correct. > > And if so, it certainly could be that > Someone could reserve many people's grandparents as they > Could easily meet that criteria. My own grandparents were > Certainly born 110 years ago. > > Stephen Kelsey Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message