I don't know that it works every time, or that it will still work for me, but I know this is a way some people may get hundreds of names at once. But then what happens? One hundred baptisms and confirmations in one day, five initiatory sessions for twenty names each, then one hundred endowments, then two or three sealing sessions -- that's almost 110 trips to the temple. At five a week (daily visits!), that's 22 weeks, or four and a half months. Going to the temple twice a month (more commont), that's 55 months or 5 years (temples close for a month a year). So, who needs hundreds? From: Sahara346@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:33 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy I go through probates, and look at all of them with the right names (and I collect married names of the daughters when I can find them, as well, so I do try to be thorough.) So far, the ones that are related to me only have had five or six children, and possibly two or three other relatives--though I know there are many that list many more relatives. Many of the areas that my people are from don't have birth records in the time periods that would yield names (no New England, and they didn't start birth records in many of the rest of the US states until about 1900 to 1910, so unless they're direct line it doesn't help. I do collect the data for future reference and possibly future Temple work--but they can't be done by me, yet, as I don't always know who the nearest living relative to get permission from is.) And I'll be frank, finding a book with extensive research already done doesn't mean I can harvest ancestors. The very first printed genealogy I ever picked up on my family taught me that. In the first chapter or so, they had my 3rd great grandfather married to a Miss Henderson. Someone had done temple work based on that book. That gr grandfather did not marry Miss Henderson as the book stated, he married Isabella McMillan, and the kids the book attributed to Miss Henderson were Isabella's children. I tried to submit the work to have them sealed to the correct mother, but they redid everybody's work because the mother was different--therefore the kids must be different (despite the fact that the names, birth dates & places all matched). The author did have the father and children correct, but not the Mom. Since they had a large family, a lot of work was done needlessly, and a lot of time was wasted. As a result: when it comes to printed genealogies, I look for verification before automatically accepting what they say. Some are pretty accurate and can be easily verified, others leak like a sieve. Yes, I've got 10,000 names in my PAF files, but that's not like the hundreds that others harvest. Maybe I spend too much time helping others. Karen In a message dated 6/24/2009 8:58:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com writes: Karen wrote: I still haven't figured out how people can find hundreds of names at a time though One can find hundreds of names at a time by (a) checking probate records -- each deceased person might have several children (I have seen up to 23!) and sometimes some children are already dead and the records then show the names of the deceased children's children; (b) going page by page on a microfilm of birth records and finding all births of all children of a certain ancestor and all children of all of this ancestor's siblings; (c) finding a book that already did extensive research on a certain area or family you are interested in. Of course, sometimes one can go months or years to find only one more generation of ancestors. But then you can start branching out from there. I was baptized in 1999 and went to the temple in 2000. It was an 18-hour bus trip then. About one year later, a temple was dedicated in Porto Alegre, where I lived. I then took "my" first ten "names" to the temple in January of 2001 -- my grandfathers, my late grandmother, a couple of great-grandparents and siblings. Later, I started entering data from a book an uncle of mine had just written so by March I had 100 names. I was at the Stake Center getting some of them TempleReady and a friend asked if I could come up with 100 names a month. I seriously doubted it. Well, from March 2001 to June 2009 it has been 8 years, 4 months, or 100 months, and guess what. Yesterday I entered my 10,000th individual into my PAF file. Of those, about 6,000 are dead, and 1,600+ of those have had ordinances performed for them. I never thought I would get 100 names/months, but that has just happened so far. And if I get stuck -- well, you can see how much work I already have in my hands, for me and my children. From: Sahara346@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:44 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy Well, it is true that in some time periods, research is much more work than in others. On the other hand, if it means someone doesn't have to languish in Spirit Prison any more, but can progress to more and better things, it is probably worth the work, even if we only find one person. I still haven't figured out how people can find hundreds of names at a time though. I am always adding names, and do a lot of genealogy, but they usually come in a family at a time, (or a part of a family). Karen In a message dated 6/23/2009 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, babybunt@msn.com writes: I have found that they believe that their great aunt mary has done it all or that it's just too much work. Ann > From: jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:13:42 -0300 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > Well, 85% non-LDS means 15% LDS. Outside of Utah, how many communities are 15% LDS? The average for the US is 2% LDS, right? (Six million out of 300 million total population). Clearly, the LDS at this particular FHC are more interested in genealogy than the "average American." Some ground has been covered. The question to ask now might be "how many members within my ward/stake/scope of my calling are not doing their FHC and why not?" > > > > > From: Jean Weber > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:10 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > Thank you Kathy. In our Family History Centre it is about the same with > nonmembers using it much more than members. > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Taylor" <kathycat6@gmail.com> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > > Jean, > > Art Johnson said in a monthly missionary meeting regarding new > > FamilySearch > > that 3% of members were doing family history. Then when nFS came out in > > St > > Louis he said that 10% of that temple district were doing it. > > > > In our family history center, 85% of the patrons were not members of the > > church. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Kathy > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jean Weber <mjquilts@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I am giving a talk on Sunday and would like to know if anyone knows just > >> what percentage of members are doing family history work. I have heard it > >> is > >> about 4%. Does anyone know? 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