Dear List, When is it all right to stop combining? Am I mistaken in the thinking that combining records will lessen the duplicates? If we find that ordinances have been done do we NOT combine the record of a duplicate who is not done? Should I only be combining duplicates who need work done? Thank you for all your great insight into all things family history... Tina Brisbon **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823265x1201398681/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62)

I was trying to stay out of this, but I'm going to have to comment. There are some misunderstandings beginning, and as consultants, we have to get it right. Nancy wrote: "Instruction for Members with Pioneer Ancestry" If a member has a pioneer ancestor containing a large amount of information in NFS, combine duplicate information until you find his or her ordinances dates. When you find the ordinance information, stop combining. Over time, changes to the NFS web site will be made that will improve the way the information about these pioneer ancestors is accessed and displayed. Tina then asked: Should I only be combining duplicates who need work done? My response: We should combine until there is only one record for each individual in the system. The IOUSs cannot all be combined right now, but my information is that this will be resolved soon. You'll notice that Nancy's quote is referring to the IOUSs, and they suggested combining until ordinance work is found. That means that your file for that ancestor will indicate that the work is done. That is the point. It's not that we shouldn't combine, it's that they are trying to prevent duplication of ordinance work. At the same time, the system can't handle the masses of records that these early pioneers need to have merged. They want us to show the work done AND not overload the system. That's what these instructions are addressing. Here is another NFS document on this topic: Handling Records That Are Too Large to Combine A combined record of more than 150 individual records creates serious problems for the system. Until the system is fixed, please do the following: * Keep a list of large records to combine later when the system is repaired. The News and Updates section on the sign-in page will inform you when this occurs. * Work on other records in your family tree. * Do not redo ordinances. This means that the ordinances won't show on this person until the problem is resolved and the records are combined. My comments: If we only need to combine until ordinances are recorded, then there would be no reason to keep a list of large records to combine after changes are made in the system. Notice the emphasis on not duplicating ordinances. Another NFS document: Why should I combine duplicate records? When an individual appears only once in the new FamilySearch, you will see these benefits: * The temple work for an individual and family will be done only once. * An individual's information is in one place. All contributors can then work together to do the following: o Correct errors. o Add sources and notes to indicate correct information. o Dispute incorrect information. Even if you disagree with some of the information that has been contributed about an individual, you should combine all of the information anyway. Remember, having the information in one place prevents duplication of temple work and research. My final comments: You need to visualize a pedigree where there is a pioneer ancestor with multiple records uncombined. Even if every one of them indicates temple work has been done, since we all know that multiple ordinances have been done for these people, you can still see how future research would add the same ancestors for these people in multiple places. Doing that will again promote duplication of ordinance work. Please don't misunderstand temporary IOUS instructions and apply them to the rest of the file or think they are long term instructions. The IOUSs will probably go away now in a matter of months. Other than those situations, combine every record that you are sure refers to the same person. Jill Crandell

As I understand things we only need to combine individuals until we determine that all ordinances are complete for that individual. Beyond that point it then becomes an exercise in redundancy. If I am misunderstanding things pplease let me know. Thank you. Clair Quilter Magna Stake, Utah > From: IMCMB621@aol.com > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:31:53 -0400 > To: lds-ward-consultant-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDS-WC] When to stop combining > > Dear List, > > When is it all right to stop combining? Am I mistaken in the thinking that > combining records will lessen the duplicates? If we find that ordinances > have been done do we NOT combine the record of a duplicate who is not done? > Should I only be combining duplicates who need work done? > Thank you for all your great insight into all things family history... > > Tina Brisbon > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823265x1201398681/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun > eExcfooterNO62) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tina It is ok to stop combining when there is only ONE version of the same person. If I find my 4thGGmother 15 times I have to combine till there is only one version of her, whether there be 0 or 15 various ordinance dates. The only time I do NOT combine is when I am not positive it is the same person. Then it requires a bit more research. Our forefathers want the blessings of Abraham and they help us constantly. Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af IMCMB621@aol.com Sendt: 16. juni 2009 21:32 Til: lds-ward-consultant-l@rootsweb.com Emne: [LDS-WC] When to stop combining Dear List, When is it all right to stop combining? Am I mistaken in the thinking that combining records will lessen the duplicates? If we find that ordinances have been done do we NOT combine the record of a duplicate who is not done? Should I only be combining duplicates who need work done? Thank you for all your great insight into all things family history... Tina Brisbon **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823265x1201398681/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) Databaseversion: 6.12620 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/