When submitting temple ordinances for a child without a given name, just leave the name fields blank. The computer at the temple then adds "Miss" or "Mr" as a title (not as a name). It is not necessary to use Miss or Mr for the given names in NFS or PAF. One of the most important things we need to do is add the gender for the baby. The title will then be properly applied to the information. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple

Under the old TempleReady, Mr. or Miss would be added to our PAF submitted names. However, under NFS, unless programming has changed from the one time it happened to me, it did not add Miss to a baby that I left with only the last name. When we download names at our Temple, we in the office go through all of them and write in Miss or Mr. to the people who only have a last name. (We also white out (with blue or yellow!) the Jr.s that show up in the middle of names and write them on the end - for ease of saying them.) Megan Smith Las Vegas Nevada Temple District ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary S. Scott (Michigan)" <mscscott28@yahoo.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Unnamed Children > When submitting temple ordinances for a child without a given name, just > leave the name fields blank. > > The computer at the temple then adds "Miss" or "Mr" as a title (not as a > name). > > It is not necessary to use Miss or Mr for the given names in NFS or PAF. > > One of the most important things we need to do is add the gender for the > baby. The title will then be properly applied to the information. > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been half-following this thread, and realized yesterday that my husband has a similar situation in his family. His gg grandparents had triplets who were born and died on the same day. I have a photocopy of their headstone, which reads "Three Infants, two sons & dau. of J & M DEWEESE born & died March 9, 1868." My mother-in-law passed away in 1987, and I have her Book of Remembrance. She apparently did not know about these children at the time she was actively doing her family history work, since they are not included. Temple work for the known children was done in the 1950's, possibly by her but I don't know for sure, I just have dates and one notation of the temple name in her Book of Remembrance. That long ago, the closest temple to us would have been Idaho Falls or Salt Lake. One of the submitters is that of "nmallen" plus a bunch of numbers, which is probably her. Looking at this family in nFS, I see the need for some combining and straightening out of this family, it appears to be a mess. However, there are no children listed as being born in 1868, named or unnamed. I did try a search on just the last name, with the birthdate and place as well as the gender, but there were no matches. So, if I were to enter these children to the family, I'm seeing a variety of ways to do it. If I were to leave the first name blank (since they apparently were not named), just use the last name, gender, birth & death dates and places, would that be the proper way to do it? And seeing as there were two sons, how would I differentiate between #1 and 2 without someone else coming along and combining them? I have seen plenty of opinions, but nothing that is firming itself up in my mind as the right way to do it. I don't want to add any more children to the family until I get the rest of them cleaned up, but there may be three nameless infants of Jesse & Melvina (Beghtol) DeWeese who need to be sealed to their parents, and I'd like to know the proper way to do it. Alice Allen Oakhurst Ward Family History Consultant Vancouver WA Stake Portland OR Temple District

Mary, This is not what the NFS User's guide says one should do. I have read through all of the Updates to it this morning and there was no change for the instruction given on Page 154 regarding what to do when a given name is not known. I am very documentation oriented so if you state that you obtained leaving the field blank by reading one of the temple instruction books then I could understand your comments. I am working in the office this Friday at the Columbus Temple and hope to have time enough to look this up to find a guideline. Have you actually been able to submit a name through NFS this way? Thanks, Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary S. Scott (Michigan) Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 08:50 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Unnamed Children When submitting temple ordinances for a child without a given name, just leave the name fields blank. The computer at the temple then adds "Miss" or "Mr" as a title (not as a name). It is not necessary to use Miss or Mr for the given names in NFS or PAF. One of the most important things we need to do is add the gender for the baby. The title will then be properly applied to the information. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message