Stephen and Tom, I've had the same problem, I realize that it is great that there no duplicates this way but when I tried 2 hours later all the names were cleared so I can't help wondering what the clue is! Alie from the Netherlands -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com Sent: maandag 1 juni 2009 19:45 To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 237 Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics: 1. printing FOR's (Stephen J. Kelsey) 2. Re: printing FOR's (Tom Kemp) 3. Re: this youth group has me in fits (W. David Samuelsen) 4. Re: this youth group has me in fits (W. David Samuelsen) 5. Re: this youth group has me in fits (W. David Samuelsen) 6. Re: this youth group has me in fits (Stephen J. Kelsey) 7. Re: this youth group has me in fits (Jill N. Crandell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:13:23 -0600 From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> Subject: [LDS-WC] printing FOR's To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU133-DAV18C1D03E3B048A7B0C0F8D14C0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I attempted to print some FORs this morning. Some went through fine but Then after I had selected the maximum number of people and got to the Very end after the summary and going to the print request screen a Message came up that someone was editing one of the individuals and I Would have to try later. Have others had this experience? It is quite Cumbersome to select all of the individuals and then at the very end Have it stopped like that. Stephen J. Kelsey www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000 www.woodyatt.bravehost.com www.geocities.com/herefpr ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:26:10 -0400 From: Tom Kemp <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] printing FOR's To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <45c595dc0906010826l71d4cbfan6adf1eb816271295@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fascinating that the system puts a hold on it - because at the precise time you were printing the FOR "someone was editing one of the individuals" in your submission. Terrific indicator that nFS is going to great lengths to eliminate duplication. Tom ............................................................................ ........... On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Stephen J. Kelsey <sjkelsey@msn.com> wrote: > > I attempted to print some FORs this morning. Some went through fine but > Then after I had selected the maximum number of people and got to the > Very end after the summary and going to the print request screen a > Message came up that someone was editing one of the individuals and I > Would have to try later. ?Have others had this experience? ?It is quite > Cumbersome to select all of the individuals and then at the very end > Have it stopped like that. > > Stephen J. Kelsey > www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000 > www.woodyatt.bravehost.com > www.geocities.com/herefpr > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:31:03 -0600 From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4A240247.9010800@sampubco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed First question. Already working with them on that. The objective you stated was already met last year. The objective this year is to give them the experience the youths who live quite a distance from a temple to give them the idea how the members prepare, saving and travel at great expense, the distance ("Honeymoon Trail", etc) David Miles Meyer wrote: > Why not help the youth get their own names? Can you have the YM > presidency get them together for a few hours each week and have them > work up some names? It would have more meaning to them to do their own > ancestors. Maybe get with the RS or HP and have them spend a day in > the FHC working up names. When we had a goal of x names in a year we > managed to do it by having 5 people work through their lines and get > the cards printed. This would be easier with nFS but it still isn't > impossible. > > As you said "The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc." What better way to give them the experience than to > actually do the research themselves. > > Miles Meyer > Jacksonville, FL > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: >> Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, >> ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked >> with each Temple. Same instructions. >> >> I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young >> men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience >> of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long >> time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, >> Madrid, etc. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> Tom Kemp wrote: >>> The temples have all the names you need. >>> >>> Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be >>> appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull >>> names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). >>> >>> Tom >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:38:05 -0600 From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4A2403ED.8000000@sampubco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Stephen J. Kelsey wrote: > I certainly must echo the sentiments here. The youth leaders seem to have > no > Idea what it takes to get names for the kids to do baptisms for the dead. True for many but not in my ward. They knew what was involved because they are also Temple workers, too! It is the math of the cards. I was asked to explain the logistics of getting that many in short notice next Sunday to the youths for 5 to 10 minutes. Jill Crandall is right on the mark, it's Utah temples with their requirements. Only Salt Lake Temple does not require the cards, can use Temple file to supply the names. Salt Lake Temple is my ward's primary Temple (requires 2 times per year per Temple President's assignments to the wards/stakes in the district to supply youths for baptisms) with additional Bountiful and Jordan River Temples occasionally. David Samuelsen ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:31:44 -0600 From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4A240270.4060307@sampubco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed only my ward is involved. No Bishop Ludlow. David Stephen J. Kelsey wrote: > My I inquire if you have a Bishop Ludlow who is with this youth group? His > Father has asked me for help in getting baptismal names. If so, please let > Me know and I can assist you. > Stephen J. Kelsey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles Meyer > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:23 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits > > Why not help the youth get their own names? Can you have the YM > presidency get them together for a few hours each week and have them > work up some names? It would have more meaning to them to do their own > ancestors. Maybe get with the RS or HP and have them spend a day in > the FHC working up names. When we had a goal of x names in a year we > managed to do it by having 5 people work through their lines and get > the cards printed. This would be easier with nFS but it still isn't > impossible. > > As you said "The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc." What better way to give them the experience than to > actually do the research themselves. > > Miles Meyer > Jacksonville, FL > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> > wrote: >> Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, >> ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked >> with each Temple. Same instructions. >> >> I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young >> men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience >> of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long >> time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, >> Madrid, etc. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> Tom Kemp wrote: >>> The temples have all the names you need. >>> >>> Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be >>> appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull >>> names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). >>> >>> Tom >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:15:09 -0600 From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU133-DAV31545E2F7EE4EC0C8DE15D14C0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Then, you are not the only ward with this idea who wants to do it This year. There is a ward somewhere in Draper who has decided on the same thing and the Bishops father who is in my word asked me to give them somewhere around 500 baptisms. I told them I might Get half but I don't want to short change my own ward. If this is Getting to be a new youth deal then the youth or their parents or Their leaders need to get involved n getting the names to do the project. Steve Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:32 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits only my ward is involved. No Bishop Ludlow. David Stephen J. Kelsey wrote: > My I inquire if you have a Bishop Ludlow who is with this youth group? His > Father has asked me for help in getting baptismal names. If so, please let > Me know and I can assist you. > Stephen J. Kelsey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles Meyer > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:23 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits > > Why not help the youth get their own names? Can you have the YM > presidency get them together for a few hours each week and have them > work up some names? It would have more meaning to them to do their own > ancestors. Maybe get with the RS or HP and have them spend a day in > the FHC working up names. When we had a goal of x names in a year we > managed to do it by having 5 people work through their lines and get > the cards printed. This would be easier with nFS but it still isn't > impossible. > > As you said "The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc." What better way to give them the experience than to > actually do the research themselves. > > Miles Meyer > Jacksonville, FL > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> > wrote: >> Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, >> ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked >> with each Temple. Same instructions. >> >> I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young >> men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience >> of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long >> time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, >> Madrid, etc. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> Tom Kemp wrote: >>> The temples have all the names you need. >>> >>> Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be >>> appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull >>> names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). >>> >>> Tom >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:45:00 -0600 From: "Jill N. Crandell" <jncrandell@broadweave.net> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <96AB31ED75F24509A23EDD995BDBD6C7@JILLS0033000064> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve wrote: If this is getting to be a new youth deal then the youth or their parents or their leaders need to get involved in getting the names to do the project. Actually, this isn't a new deal for our ward either. I totally agree with what you are saying (as you saw in my earlier post), but it isn't always that easy. Our young men frequently schedule temple trips to temples other than Provo. It keeps the kids motivated to stay worthy, and it gives them several temple experiences. The ability to do this is probably unique to Utah, but other situations we have are also unique. For example, our annual temple baptism assignment asks for five boys and five girls--10 kids. In six years of Mutual, that means we can get up to 60 kids to the temple once in their teenage years. Several years ago, we had the situation of more than 80 youth in our ward, so we had more than 20 kids who would never have that experience. Since the Provo temple baptism rotation includes all of the BYU wards in addition to the local wards, you can see what the issue is. I couldn't imagine kids living literally one block from the temple and never being able to participate in temple work. We have to get creative to meet these needs. At the same time, we have extensive pioneer ancestry in these kids' families, and it is extremely difficult to find family names for them to submit. My next statement is something I don't say much because sometimes it doesn't come across appropriately, so please understand that I'm trying to help others comprehend how different wards can be. Our ward literally has no non-members in our ward boundaries, and we have one less active couple. I don't know if there's any other ward in the Church this way. We also have something like 80 high priests, so we are extremely blessed with the need of BYU for priesthood leadership to be called out of our home ward to serve in bishoprics and stake presidencies on campus. Some kids around the world can't get to the temple because of distance or money. Our kids can't get to the temple because of the volume of people who have that desire in our temple district and a lack of temple file names for baptisms. With David and others in our circumstances, I would suggest that if any of you have names to share, please feel free to offer them on this list. We have a virtual "army of the Lord" capable, willing, and desirous of participating in this work. Jill Crandell ------------------------------ To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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