If Helen Radkey is a former Mormon, since 1999, how is she getting into the database to review baptisms, etc.?? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 38 Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents (Megan Smith) 2. Re: Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents (Mary S. Scott (Michigan)) 3. Re: Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents (Jerry Cowley) 4. Re: Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents (W David Samuelsen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:51:01 -0800 From: "Megan Smith" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" That is just lazy genealogy . . . we truly dislike seeing names like that in our Temple office. Megan Smith Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Betty Jo and Don Colbert Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents Just a little thought to add, last time I was at a sealing session, a lot of the persons being sealed were listed as simply Mister Smith or Mrs Smith, with children the same Mr or Miss. I asked the birthdates of these persons and was told it was the mid 1800s. In my opinion there is no person who should be submitted for Temple work listed in that manner especially born in the mid 1800s. If they are truely researching their ancestors they can find more information than simply last names for the whole family. Is this proper in your opinion? Or am I wrong? Betty Jo Colbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Kelsey" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:02:56 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents I believe I even saw where someone did the work for Jane Bennett, the fictitious character in Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice. This needs to be stopped. Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Todeschini" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents > Well, members who do that deserve to be reprimanded. And to think this > submitter clicked "yes" next to "I understand and will follow the > Church policy" and also said "yes" to a bishop and a stake president > when asked if he was honest in all things. More than restricting > access to FamilySearch, I'd go for this person's temple recommend as > well, at a minimum. (Yes, I am aware that I don't get to decide such > things, but that's how I feel.) > > Maybe the Church could prepare and block a list of 'high profile' > names, including Holocaust victims and celebrities. > > How long until someone does proxy work for Whitney Houston? . . . > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:31 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents > >> _Click here: >> http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53506130-78/church-mokotoff-jewish- >> lds.html.csp_ >> (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53506130-78/church-mokotoff-jewish >> -lds.html.csp) >> >> It appears that because members are not obeying the rules especially >> concerning very sensitive submission of names that the church is >> really cracking down. That is probably necessary and underscores the >> need for all of us to instruct our ward members to follow the rules. >> >> Baptizing Jews who are not your relatives, other non-relatives and >> Elvis (whose work has been does many many times) are stepping over >> the bounds that have been set by our leaders. >> >> Michele >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:02:23 -0800 (PST) From: "Mary S. Scott \(Michigan\)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Even the fictitious characters from the "Little House on the Prairie" television series had temple ordinances completed for them. They had been entered into New FamilySearch as though they were actual people - the adopted brother Albert; Adam, the husband of Mary; Mary's baby; Adam's father. All of these are fictitious characters were created for the television series. ? Meanwhile the time taken to do these ordinances could have been used to complete the ordinances for REAL people. ? Mary Scott ? ________________________________ From: Steve Kelsey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents I believe I even saw where someone did the work for Jane Bennett, the fictitious character in Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.? This needs to be stopped. Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Todeschini" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents > Well, members who do that deserve to be reprimanded. And to think this > submitter clicked "yes" next to "I understand and will follow the Church > policy" and also said "yes" to a bishop and a stake president when asked > if > he was honest in all things. More than restricting access to FamilySearch, > I'd go for this person's temple recommend as well, at a minimum. (Yes, I > am > aware that I don't get to decide such things, but that's how I feel.) > > Maybe the Church could prepare and block a list of 'high profile' names, > including Holocaust victims and celebrities. > > How long until someone does proxy work for Whitney Houston? . . . > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:31 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents > >> _Click? here: >> http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53506130-78/church-mokotoff-jewish-lds.htm l.csp_ >> (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53506130-78/church-mokotoff-jewish-lds.ht ml.csp) >> >> It appears that because members are not obeying the rules especially >> concerning very sensitive submission of names that the church is really >> cracking >> down.? That is probably necessary and underscores the need for all of us >> to >> instruct our ward members to follow the rules. >> >> Baptizing Jews who are not your relatives, other non-relatives and Elvis >> (whose work has been does many many times) are stepping over the bounds >> that >> have been set by our leaders. >> >> Michele >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:13:24 -0700 From: "Jerry Cowley" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Over six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. I personally wouldn't want to type up that block list. When something like this is discovered in the database, it should be reported directly to NFS to handle. Of course, if the person involved were a direct descendant of this couple, the ordinance is legitimate. Jerry __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6884 (20120214) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:40:50 -0500 From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Baptism of Simon Wiesenthal's parents To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Quoting "Mary S. Scott (Michigan)" <[email protected]>: > Even the fictitious characters from the "Little House on the > Prairie" television series had temple ordinances completed for them. > They had been entered into New FamilySearch as though they were > actual people - the adopted brother Albert; Adam, the husband of > Mary; Mary's baby; Adam's father. All of these are fictitious > characters were created for the television series. > ? > Meanwhile the time taken to do these ordinances could have been used > to complete the ordinances for REAL people. > ? > Mary Scott If you recognize any such entries, please notify [email protected] to remove/block these names. They can't watch every name without any help from us. 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