What I'd like to know is...Do the NFS computer folks have any way of determining how long names have been waiting for ordinances completion? We can all see that info on individuals.....when the last ordinances was performed and who reserved it...and the ESPECIALLY ANNOYING Legacy submitters ( who are either dead, inactive, or lost their cards in the last 15 years). I am hopeful that they will announce and then begin to enforce within 6 months (to give folks a chance to have stake temple days or family temple days to finish things up)..and then just pull the plug on all the Legacy submissions and send them to "ready" and ditto anything that has been more than 3-5 years waiting for the next ordinances in sequence to be done. The engineers could do a lot to help us fulfill our responsibilities. Every month, I go through my "cleared and submitted list" from PAF and run Family Insight. I pick up newly completely ordinances but there are thousands of names that are not getting done and I believe may never be completed until Salt Lake takes action. Michele In a message dated 2/11/2012 1:41:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Knowledge Base Document # 1008361 clearly states: .There is no limit on the amount of time that ordinances can be on your Temple Ordinances list. Reserve only the amount that you can do in a timely manner. Other relatives may also want to perform ordinances for shared ancestors. Note: The more ordinances you reserve, the longer it takes for your Temple Ordinances List to load. Note the words "timely manner" and check your large temple lists, are there ordinances waiting there that could have been picked up by other family members? Note the phrase: "Other relatives may also want to perform ordinances for shared ancestors." My point is that of moderation in all things and that hoarding is probably not a good thing? The programmers designed the list to function properly with up to 2,000 names so if we have 2 or 3 times that many, we may need to rethink our priorities. Shanna Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Kemp Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] temple ordinances OK. I have rechecked the current two publications on Family History - the "A Member's Guide..." and "To Turn the Hearts" Both speak of doing "all" work for our "ancestors" and our "kindred dead" Yes, we are talking about submitting only relatives - no self created extraction projects. There is no mention of limiting the flow of names. I have heard of not "reserving" more names than we can reasonably do ourselves through personal Temple attendance - but have never seen any instructions about not "submitting" names to the general Temple file (not reserved - simply entered in to nFS and submitted for Temple work for all Temples to pull from. It is my experience that female names are completed within six months (with the baptisms etc. being completed within 2 weeks) and that male names will take ten months. Most names are completed sooner than that. So, the need is there. Given the painfully low number of names waiting for female baptisms - it would seem like a real assist to the Church to document and submit as many names - particularly female names, as possible. That way the Temples will have more than enough names in reserve to meet the needs of a world-wide Church. "Once we have received them for ourselves [Ordinances] and for our families, we are obligated to provide these ordinances vicariously for our kindred dead, indeed for the whole human family" (Boyd K. Packer, in Conference Report, Apr. 1987, p. 27; or Ensign, May 1987, p. 24). Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was a RootsTech livesteam session that was all about the future of new FamilySearch that will be released in the coming months.  It will take care of the problem of the anonymous submitters and the unclaimed legacy submitters.  FamilySearch is well aware of the problem and has been working on a solution.  The RootsTech streams haven't yet been divided up into the hour long sessions, but the daily streams can still be watched on RootsTech.org Rebecca Christensen --- On Sat, 2/11/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] temple ordinances To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 4:25 PM What I'd like to know is...Do the NFS computer folks have any way of  determining how long names have been waiting for ordinances completion?  We  can all see that info on individuals.....when the last ordinances was performed  and who reserved it...and the ESPECIALLY ANNOYING Legacy submitters ( who are  either dead, inactive, or lost their cards in the last 15 years). I am hopeful that they will announce and then begin to enforce within 6  months (to give folks a chance to have stake temple days or family temple days to finish things up)..and then just pull the plug on all the Legacy submissions  and send them to "ready" and ditto anything that has been more than 3-5 years  waiting for the next ordinances in sequence to be done. The engineers could do a lot to help us fulfill our responsibilities.    Every month, I go through my "cleared and submitted list" from PAF and run  Family Insight.  I pick up newly completely ordinances but there are  thousands of names that are not getting done and I believe may never be  completed until Salt Lake takes action. Michele