OK. I have rechecked the current two publications on Family History - the "A Member's Guide..." and "To Turn the Hearts" Both speak of doing "all" work for our "ancestors" and our "kindred dead" Yes, we are talking about submitting only relatives - no self created extraction projects. There is no mention of limiting the flow of names. I have heard of not "reserving" more names than we can reasonably do ourselves through personal Temple attendance - but have never seen any instructions about not "submitting" names to the general Temple file (not reserved - simply entered in to nFS and submitted for Temple work for all Temples to pull from. It is my experience that female names are completed within six months (with the baptisms etc. being completed within 2 weeks) and that male names will take ten months. Most names are completed sooner than that. So, the need is there. Given the painfully low number of names waiting for female baptisms - it would seem like a real assist to the Church to document and submit as many names - particularly female names, as possible. That way the Temples will have more than enough names in reserve to meet the needs of a world-wide Church. “Once we have received them for ourselves [Ordinances] and for our families, we are obligated to provide these ordinances vicariously for our kindred dead, indeed for the whole human family” (Boyd K. Packer, in Conference Report, Apr. 1987, p. 27; or Ensign, May 1987, p. 24). On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Jerry Cowley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Interesting how this conversation has morphed.  I know people who work and > struggle for years to get any names for temple work. Others have names "pour > out of the computer" so to speak. Our circumstances are not always alike. > Two Rootsweb conference speakers reminded attendees that we should submit no > more names than we can do in a "reasonable amount of time, probably a few > months." If a researcher has dozens of temple-going family members or a > supportive ward, they can probably get more names done than one who doesn't > have that, but they cautioned us about having more than 200 names in the > temple file at a time because of the difficulty it gives the program. For > example, names may not print properly on an FOR. They urged us not to feel > guilty about not being able to do all the work we find all at once. > > I have experimented by putting a few family names into the program without > tapping them for temple work--or more than just baptism, etc.-- right away. > Nearly half have already been picked up and completed. Conversely, I have > also found names that were begun by others or through extraction that I've > been able to complete. I would rather have the names waiting in the program > than in my computer. It's one step closer for them.  It's also an excellent > way of making contact with other researchers. And if the names wait until > the Millennium, the data is in place to support the effort when the time > comes. > > I have also assisted people whose health is precarious, who have no > immediate LDS family, with putting all their data into the program, rather > than leave it in their own computer files should they die.  They are > attending the temple as often as their circumstances permit. > > We should not begin unauthorized extractions of lists of persons such as > Holocaust victims. That is actively discouraged. > > Jerry > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6876 (20120211) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

About twenty years ago the extraction program completed the vast majority of female ordinances for my little ancestral village in Germany.   When I was able to work on my ancestors from this village (after our family discovered our connection), all the females had their temple work completed and I just had to do the male names.   This indicates to me that the Church has been working on solutions to having enough female names for temple file for many, many years.   Mary Scott

Knowledge Base Document # 1008361 clearly states: .There is no limit on the amount of time that ordinances can be on your Temple Ordinances list. Reserve only the amount that you can do in a timely manner. Other relatives may also want to perform ordinances for shared ancestors. Note: The more ordinances you reserve, the longer it takes for your Temple Ordinances List to load. Note the words "timely manner" and check your large temple lists, are there ordinances waiting there that could have been picked up by other family members? Note the phrase: "Other relatives may also want to perform ordinances for shared ancestors." My point is that of moderation in all things and that hoarding is probably not a good thing? The programmers designed the list to function properly with up to 2,000 names so if we have 2 or 3 times that many, we may need to rethink our priorities. Shanna Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Kemp Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] temple ordinances OK. I have rechecked the current two publications on Family History - the "A Member's Guide..." and "To Turn the Hearts" Both speak of doing "all" work for our "ancestors" and our "kindred dead" Yes, we are talking about submitting only relatives - no self created extraction projects. There is no mention of limiting the flow of names. I have heard of not "reserving" more names than we can reasonably do ourselves through personal Temple attendance - but have never seen any instructions about not "submitting" names to the general Temple file (not reserved - simply entered in to nFS and submitted for Temple work for all Temples to pull from. It is my experience that female names are completed within six months (with the baptisms etc. being completed within 2 weeks) and that male names will take ten months. Most names are completed sooner than that. So, the need is there. Given the painfully low number of names waiting for female baptisms - it would seem like a real assist to the Church to document and submit as many names - particularly female names, as possible. That way the Temples will have more than enough names in reserve to meet the needs of a world-wide Church. "Once we have received them for ourselves [Ordinances] and for our families, we are obligated to provide these ordinances vicariously for our kindred dead, indeed for the whole human family" (Boyd K. Packer, in Conference Report, Apr. 1987, p. 27; or Ensign, May 1987, p. 24).