My note was written round 1 a.m. and posted around lunchtime (wonder what brought the delay :S). (We live a 1½ hour drive from Copenhagen - so we got home pretty late). Well, Denmark is probably one of the best places to do research since the density of records is high and it is very difficult to "fly under the radar" - SOME ancestors are refining it to an art, though! So when a person is submitting an ancestor born 1825, in Denmark it is SO SLOPPY. From 1845 every census (with a few exceptions - 1916 for one) there is birth parish stated for every person. BUT I myself have submitted both MR's and MRS's in the past - I cannot make that right - but I can reform my ways and follow the rules from now on. My point was not to put down past mistakes it was just to point out what I/we were told last night, due to the late hour I was too tired to expand on what else we were told. What we more exactly were told was that the Church is no longer focusing on the 3 main missions but on SALVATION to all. And is using Family History to take focus from those main missions to bring love and empathy to all. That consultants is no longer pull out sheets to start a GENEALOGICAL research matter-of-factly - but to focus on the STORIES/HISTORIES of each family. And in writing the stories use sheets to be "anchors" or "ladders" to stick out the course and keep track of where one has been and what still needs to be researched. It is no longer to be a science but a tool and assistant to all we do. I must admit I am excited - it is a cool way to go about the matter. :) Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Alice Allen Sendt: 1. juni 2013 21:19 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Junk Genealogy | Was: Re: Digest, Vol 8, Issue 225 I think we have to be careful not to pass judgment upon the people who have submitted some of these "Mr. & Mrs." For temple work. I have one of these in one of my own lines. This has been a difficult line for me to trace--early 1800's NY state, can't find any indication of my gg grandmother's family there, even though she is listed on the 1850 census with her husband and in all the censuses I've found her in, her birthplace is listed as NY. Her individual ordinances (and maybe her sealing to husband) was done in the 1930's--it's a long story and only interesting to me, so I won't share it here so your eyes don't glaze over. Back when the IGI & Ancestral File were on CD's (1990's), I discovered that someone had sealed her and a brother to "Mr. & Mrs. Davey." Over these many years I've been grumbling to myself as to why someone would do that, and how did they find out my gg grandmother had a brother, since I never found a trace of this family. Last fall I was contacted by a descendent of my gg grandmother, who had found me on nFS and was delighted to discover me, and hoped I had information on this family--especially did I know who our gg grandmother's parents were? Thankfully I did not rant & rave about the "Mr. & Mrs" whom they were sealed to, but I told him that's all I know. Then he told me this story: His aunt had a history written by our gg grandmother, and he had read it many times. He had noted many times that she related being orphaned at an early age--naturally she didn't tell who here parents were, when they died, etc. But at some point he was prompted to read that history again, and eventually he did. What he had never noticed before was that our gg grandmother told of her younger brother Sam, who was 2 years younger than she was, and that they had been placed in different orphanages and she never saw him again. Since he had his gg grandmother's birth date, he calculated the brother's birth date, added "of" to the county they were from, and submitted his name for temple work. He was also prompted to seal both of them to their parents, but he was never able to find out who they were. He calculated their birth dates, added "of" to the county and state, and the submission was accepted. Now, this was the 1990's, and as I recall things were loosened up quite a bit about that time as far as submitting for temple work. He has not stopped hunting for their real names, and I have been hunting,too. I have a trip to Salt Lake planned in the next couple of weeks, and looking through probate and guardianship records is #1 on my list for the day my daughter has promised me I can have at the FHL while her family does some touristy things. So at least in this case, this was a "guided by the Spirit" thing and not "junk" genealogy. There may be others out there with a similar story, who knows! Alice