Ditto. With the millions they are spending on trying to iron out Family Tree, you'd think a few simple updates to PAF would be a cinch. I agree with other. PAF and Family Insight are easy. I tried another software and it was cumbersome and extremely time consuming to do simple tasks. Michele In a message dated 6/10/2013 8:04:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sjkelsey@msn.com writes: I agree with Fred and would hope that sooner or later someone would begin to upgrade PAF, even a simple upgrade such as putting in all the new temple abbreviations. Having invested a lot of time using PAF5 and with lots of experience it still seems a great program to me. I have used some of the others but I never really like them as much as I do PAF. Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred" <unclefvp@verizon.net> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF 5 > Given, that many dozens of thousands of Church members still use PAF, > teaching PAF makes a lot of sense. New users should probably invest the > time > in other software, but for the thousands of existing users, don't expect > them to change, they won't. I have a paid copy of Roots Magic on my > computers, have had it for years, buy a new license every time I need to. > But I use PAF, I'll continue to use PAF (And Family Insight), and will > till > they stop working. If PAF ever does stop working, you'll see a large drop > off in family history work... Why? Cause that's the way human minds > operate, > whether we like it or not. You can not do family history without a > personal > database program, and PAF is the easiest I've found, and that makes it, > essential. > > Regards, Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shanna > Jones > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:58 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF 5 > > Personal genealogy software > PAF and other similar records manager apps are valuable to provide > individuals with a way to store their pedigree with its associated notes, > sources and incidental information. > > There are no plans to further develop PAF, however there are also free and > inexpensive third party applications that can be used as a replacement for > PAF. These third party apps are regularly updated with new features and > enhancements. For more information regarding third party apps go to > https://familysearch.org/products. PAF is no longer available for purchase > on Compact Disc, and although it is still available for download, we > strongly recommend using a third party product as suggested above. > > New.FamilySearch.org > New.FamilySearch.org is a web based family tree that enables people to > share > and work together on common ancestral lines. In April 2013, FamilySearch > introduced FamilySearch Family Tree to replace New.FamilySearch.org. > Several third party products (mentioned above) support > New.FamilySearch.org > integration, and vital data from New.FamilySearch.org will be also then > available in FamilySearch Family Tree. > > Personal genealogy software and FamilySearch Family Tree together Given > that > PAF does not directly integrate with FamilySearch Family Tree, and > New.FamilySearch.org is to be discontinued at a future point, we will be > providing solutions for PAF users to be able to take full advantage of > FamilySearch Family Tree. This solution will be announced as soon as > possible. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna > McNamara > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:29 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF 5 > > Why are we not recommending PAF downloads at this time. I haven't heard > that. > Donna > > Donna McNamara > Grandchildren, Genealogy, and German Shepherds > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paf will not be updated. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JCBrooks@aol.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF 5 > Ditto. With the millions they are spending on trying to iron out Family > Tree, you'd think a few simple updates to PAF would be a cinch. I agree > with other. PAF and Family Insight are easy. I tried another software > and > it was cumbersome and extremely time consuming to do simple tasks. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/10/2013 8:04:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > sjkelsey@msn.com writes: > > I agree with Fred and would hope that sooner or later someone would begin > to > upgrade PAF, even a simple upgrade such as putting in all the new temple > abbreviations. Having invested a lot of time using PAF5 > and with lots of experience it still seems a great program to me. I have > used some of the others but I never really like them as much as I do PAF. > Steve Kelsey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred" <unclefvp@verizon.net> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:13 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF 5 > > >> Given, that many dozens of thousands of Church members still use PAF, >> teaching PAF makes a lot of sense. New users should probably invest the >> time >> in other software, but for the thousands of existing users, don't expect >> them to change, they won't. I have a paid copy of Roots Magic on my >> computers, have had it for years, buy a new license every time I need > to. >> But I use PAF, I'll continue to use PAF (And Family Insight), and will >> till >> they stop working. If PAF ever does stop working, you'll see a large >> drop >> off in family history work... Why? Cause that's the way human minds >> operate, >> whether we like it or not. You can not do family history without a >> personal >> database program, and PAF is the easiest I've found, and that makes it, >> essential. >> >> Regards, Fred >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shanna >> Jones >> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:58 PM >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF 5 >> >> Personal genealogy software >> PAF and other similar records manager apps are valuable to provide >> individuals with a way to store their pedigree with its associated >> notes, >> sources and incidental information. >> >> There are no plans to further develop PAF, however there are also free > and >> inexpensive third party applications that can be used as a replacement > for >> PAF. These third party apps are regularly updated with new features and >> enhancements. For more information regarding third party apps go to >> https://familysearch.org/products. PAF is no longer available for > purchase >> on Compact Disc, and although it is still available for download, we >> strongly recommend using a third party product as suggested above. >> >> New.FamilySearch.org >> New.FamilySearch.org is a web based family tree that enables people to >> share >> and work together on common ancestral lines. In April 2013, >> FamilySearch >> introduced FamilySearch Family Tree to replace New.FamilySearch.org. >> Several third party products (mentioned above) support >> New.FamilySearch.org >> integration, and vital data from New.FamilySearch.org will be also then >> available in FamilySearch Family Tree. >> >> Personal genealogy software and FamilySearch Family Tree together Given >> that >> PAF does not directly integrate with FamilySearch Family Tree, and >> New.FamilySearch.org is to be discontinued at a future point, we will >> be >> providing solutions for PAF users to be able to take full advantage of >> FamilySearch Family Tree. This solution will be announced as soon as >> possible. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna >> McNamara >> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:29 PM >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF 5 >> >> Why are we not recommending PAF downloads at this time. I haven't heard >> that. >> Donna >> >> Donna McNamara >> Grandchildren, Genealogy, and German Shepherds >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message