Understood, but it would be nice if there were some way to search those already connected to you in a known relationship. And then it would be really great to see how you are connected, especially if you are connected in more than one way. :) -Terri J. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Nancy Tychonievich <nansuty@gmail.com>wrote: > Even searching using the search within Family Tree, you are not searching > only "your" tree, since there really isn't any such thing in Family Tree. > The tree is collaborative. You will always be searching all names that have > been entered into Family Tree. > > Sister Tychonievich > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:00 AM, <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com > >wrote: > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest > > version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please > remember > > to restrict the size of your post. > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Sebastian Buck) > > 2. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Miles Meyer) > > 3. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (JCBrooks@aol.com) > > 4. Re: ancient history (Jerry Cowley) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 15:39:25 +0200 > > From: "Sebastian Buck" <mail@sebastianbuck.name> > > Subject: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <002b01ce5f96$9a203c20$ce60b460$@sebastianbuck.name> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > Hi, > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a silly > > question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of my > > ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this feature > searches > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > adding > > a > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if you're > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > Sebastian Buck > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:37:20 -0400 > > From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > < > > CAB5+kWyeUb9EDzRxDGDWsoTovALbmBHDMtt-fE+eETrwEKzUNQ@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Use the Search function in the same line where it says Tree - Person - > > Search -- not the Search on the top line next to Photos > > > > Miles Meyer > > Jacksonville, FL > > > > "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get > > better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Sebastian Buck <mail@sebastianbuck.name > > >wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a silly > > > question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of my > > > ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this feature > > searches > > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > > adding > > > a > > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > you're > > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > Sebastian Buck > > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) > > From: JCBrooks@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <504da.238c0c2f.3edcb3df@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > I agree this is confusing! > > > > There is a separate/different tool bar for Family Tree and FamilySearch. > > > > When FamilySearch is in green in the left corner, mid-page you can see > > Family Tree Photos Search. This Search gets you to the indexed names > > and > > other resources. After signing in, Temple is added for LDS members on > > this > > page, just to the right. > > > > After sign-in, and when the pedigree or fan chart appears, there also > > appears a second tool bar below the first. It also contains the word, > > Search. > > This tool bar allow you to search within your own tree and most > helpfully > > by the Full name or PID numbers for each individuals. > > > > I have always thought that redundancy was odd as well. > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2013 6:41:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > mail@sebastianbuck.name writes: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a silly > > question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of my > > ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this feature > > searches > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > adding > > a > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > you're > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > Sebastian Buck > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:03:50 -0600 > > From: "Jerry Cowley" <jbcowley@rmci.net> > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ancient history > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <000501ce5faa$c6440a70$52cc1f50$@net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Good point, Steve. When I began in the late 50's, our instructions were > to > > check at home, ask, and write letters. There wasn't much emphasis on > > documentation, just information. I remember how tired my hand got just > > copying information. The copy machine was a miracle as much as the > > computer > > was. The emphasis on documentation came later, when the church had all > > these 4 generation sheets that didn't agree... > > > > The church still allows some judiciously estimated information if > > everything > > else is intact. I note that the new iteration of Family Tree allows the > > addition of the words about, before, and after on dates. That's a good > > thing > > because it alerts us to an estimation. You can also add "of" before a > > location and it stays if you don't click on the sync. But even with > > spelling variations, they want as full a name as possible. With the > > mis-combinations, without research, it's difficult to determine some > > relationships. So the name is the key piece of identification, even for > > ceremonial purposes. > > > > Some date guidelines I was taught for estimating--when all else fails: > > Wife 4 years younger than husband > > Marriage 1 year prior to first child > > First child 20 years younger than mother, born 1 year after parents' > > marriage > > Next child, 2 years after first child, and so on > > > > Obviously there are exceptions in real life and real problems creep in > when > > you try to apply these over more than one generation. So documentation is > > far preferred. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:09:37 -0600 > > From: Steve Kelsey <sjkelsey@msn.com> > > Subject: [LDS-WC] ancient history..... > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1948B3DE78D330058AC1C36D1930@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > One must also remember that much of the early work was done from memories > > and there was very little documentation available to these early members. > > My great grandfather's uncle did work for John Derry and others with very > > little information as to who they were and in fact usually they were > listed > > as "friends" rather than relatives. Since I know of at least 10 people > > named John Derry who are relatives it was very difficult to know which > one > > he did the work for. We are very, very blessed to have so much > information > > so easy to get at. Having spent many hours searching census records on > > microfilm, or seaching the bmd indexes film by film for one surname, or > > trying to make a pedigree from the wills and probates in Herefordshire in > > the 1960's and 70's because the parish registers were not available I > know > > what great strides we have made. One missing item which is not online > > which > > I believe would be a great benefit for English research is the post 1858 > > principal probate registry index for Great Britain and I am surprised > that > > no one has considered putting it online as yet. > > In fact when I started in 1952 I went to the basement of the old Joseph > > Smith Building where the Relief Socity bldg is now. You had to > requisition > > records at a window and sign them out. No copy machines==it was family > > group sheets and a pencil and something for notes. I am amazed at what > our > > early forebearers, great and great great grandparents did at getting > temple > > work done and how much they were able to do with how little they had. > > > > Steve Kelsey > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature > > database 8403 (20130602) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email > > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 > > *************************************************** > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It sounds like your are wishing for a relationship calculator. Travis -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terri Jaskolka Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:48 AM To: lds-ward-consultant Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 Understood, but it would be nice if there were some way to search those already connected to you in a known relationship. And then it would be really great to see how you are connected, especially if you are connected in more than one way. :) -Terri J. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Nancy Tychonievich <nansuty@gmail.com>wrote: > Even searching using the search within Family Tree, you are not > searching only "your" tree, since there really isn't any such thing in Family Tree. > The tree is collaborative. You will always be searching all names that > have been entered into Family Tree. > > Sister Tychonievich > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:00 AM, > <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com > >wrote: > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest > > version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please > remember > > to restrict the size of your post. > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Sebastian Buck) > > 2. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Miles Meyer) > > 3. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (JCBrooks@aol.com) > > 4. Re: ancient history (Jerry Cowley) > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 15:39:25 +0200 > > From: "Sebastian Buck" <mail@sebastianbuck.name> > > Subject: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <002b01ce5f96$9a203c20$ce60b460$@sebastianbuck.name> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > Hi, > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a > > silly question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of > > my ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this > > feature > searches > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > adding > > a > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > > you're looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > Sebastian Buck > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:37:20 -0400 > > From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > < > > CAB5+kWyeUb9EDzRxDGDWsoTovALbmBHDMtt-fE+eETrwEKzUNQ@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Use the Search function in the same line where it says Tree - Person > > - Search -- not the Search on the top line next to Photos > > > > Miles Meyer > > Jacksonville, FL > > > > "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going > > to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Sebastian Buck > > <mail@sebastianbuck.name > > >wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a > > > silly question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one > > > of my ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this > > > feature > > searches > > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful > > > when > > adding > > > a > > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > you're > > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > Sebastian Buck > > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) > > From: JCBrooks@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <504da.238c0c2f.3edcb3df@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > I agree this is confusing! > > > > There is a separate/different tool bar for Family Tree and FamilySearch. > > > > When FamilySearch is in green in the left corner, mid-page you can see > > Family Tree Photos Search. This Search gets you to the indexed names > > and > > other resources. After signing in, Temple is added for LDS members > > on this page, just to the right. > > > > After sign-in, and when the pedigree or fan chart appears, there > > also appears a second tool bar below the first. It also contains > > the word, Search. > > This tool bar allow you to search within your own tree and most > helpfully > > by the Full name or PID numbers for each individuals. > > > > I have always thought that redundancy was odd as well. > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2013 6:41:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > mail@sebastianbuck.name writes: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a > > silly question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of > > my ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this > > feature searches through all the billion names in the database. > > This is helpful when > adding > > a > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > you're > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > Sebastian Buck > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:03:50 -0600 > > From: "Jerry Cowley" <jbcowley@rmci.net> > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ancient history > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <000501ce5faa$c6440a70$52cc1f50$@net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Good point, Steve. When I began in the late 50's, our instructions > > were > to > > check at home, ask, and write letters. There wasn't much emphasis on > > documentation, just information. I remember how tired my hand got > > just copying information. The copy machine was a miracle as much as > > the computer was. The emphasis on documentation came later, when > > the church had all these 4 generation sheets that didn't agree... > > > > The church still allows some judiciously estimated information if > > everything else is intact. I note that the new iteration of Family > > Tree allows the addition of the words about, before, and after on > > dates. That's a good thing because it alerts us to an estimation. > > You can also add "of" before a location and it stays if you don't > > click on the sync. But even with spelling variations, they want as > > full a name as possible. With the mis-combinations, without > > research, it's difficult to determine some relationships. So the > > name is the key piece of identification, even for ceremonial > > purposes. > > > > Some date guidelines I was taught for estimating--when all else fails: > > Wife 4 years younger than husband > > Marriage 1 year prior to first child First child 20 years younger > > than mother, born 1 year after parents' > > marriage > > Next child, 2 years after first child, and so on > > > > Obviously there are exceptions in real life and real problems creep > > in > when > > you try to apply these over more than one generation. So > > documentation is far preferred. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:09:37 -0600 > > From: Steve Kelsey <sjkelsey@msn.com> > > Subject: [LDS-WC] ancient history..... > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1948B3DE78D330058AC1C36D1930@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > One must also remember that much of the early work was done from > > memories and there was very little documentation available to these early members. > > My great grandfather's uncle did work for John Derry and others with > > very little information as to who they were and in fact usually they > > were > listed > > as "friends" rather than relatives. Since I know of at least 10 > > people named John Derry who are relatives it was very difficult to > > know which > one > > he did the work for. We are very, very blessed to have so much > information > > so easy to get at. Having spent many hours searching census records > > on microfilm, or seaching the bmd indexes film by film for one > > surname, or trying to make a pedigree from the wills and probates in > > Herefordshire in the 1960's and 70's because the parish registers > > were not available I > know > > what great strides we have made. One missing item which is not > > online which I believe would be a great benefit for English research > > is the post 1858 principal probate registry index for Great Britain > > and I am surprised > that > > no one has considered putting it online as yet. > > In fact when I started in 1952 I went to the basement of the old > > Joseph Smith Building where the Relief Socity bldg is now. You had > > to > requisition > > records at a window and sign them out. No copy machines==it was > > family group sheets and a pencil and something for notes. I am > > amazed at what > our > > early forebearers, great and great great grandparents did at getting > temple > > work done and how much they were able to do with how little they had. > > > > Steve Kelsey > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 8403 (20130602) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email > > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an > > email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > > the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 > > *************************************************** > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's one thing I've found a wish for lately. I've gots LOTS of cousins of many different levels on one particular branch and it would be so nice to look up a name on Family Tree, and if it looks familiar, is of the right place and time, be able to query and find out if it is indeed a relative, especially since I have found some living cousins, discovered through this research, also working in the same place and time. It would be nice to know if the person on the Tree is closer to being their relative or mine, making it easier to say who should be more responsible for the temple work. And then that brings to mind the thought... if Family Tree as a whole is OUR family, then who is to say who has a greater right to submit any particular names after you pass the 110 year barrier? Yes, I'm being argumentative, but wonder if that might need clarification. As I research the area the family referred to above is located, I find that the more names I collect, the more relationships I find among those who live there, and I am tying them all together, but having so many makes it hard to know whether or not I've actually found family when I do a general search, unless I am able to wind my way back to a known position on "my" tree. This may be one of those instances where having a desktop program brings the added functionality that Family Tree will never have. I guess it couldn't tell me the relationship among myself, those Tree cousins and my living cousins anyway, because that would get into privacy issues. I've probably diverged from the original topic enough already anyway. :) -Terri J. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Travis Morris <tdmorris@htcomp.net> wrote: > It sounds like your are wishing for a relationship calculator. > Travis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terri > Jaskolka > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:48 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 > > Understood, but it would be nice if there were some way to search those > already connected to you in a known relationship. And then it would be > really great to see how you are connected, especially if you are connected > in more than one way. :) > > -Terri J. > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Nancy Tychonievich <nansuty@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Even searching using the search within Family Tree, you are not > > searching only "your" tree, since there really isn't any such thing in > Family Tree. > > The tree is collaborative. You will always be searching all names that > > have been entered into Family Tree. > > > > Sister Tychonievich > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:00 AM, > > <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest > > > version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please > > remember > > > to restrict the size of your post. > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Sebastian Buck) > > > 2. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Miles Meyer) > > > 3. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me ( > JCBrooks@aol.com) > > > 4. Re: ancient history (Jerry Cowley) > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 15:39:25 +0200 > > > From: "Sebastian Buck" <mail@sebastianbuck.name> > > > Subject: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > > Message-ID: <002b01ce5f96$9a203c20$ce60b460$@sebastianbuck.name> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a > > > silly question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of > > > my ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this > > > feature > > searches > > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > > adding > > > a > > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > > > you're looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > Sebastian Buck > > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:37:20 -0400 > > > From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > > Message-ID: > > > < > > > CAB5+kWyeUb9EDzRxDGDWsoTovALbmBHDMtt-fE+eETrwEKzUNQ@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > Use the Search function in the same line where it says Tree - Person > > > - Search -- not the Search on the top line next to Photos > > > > > > Miles Meyer > > > Jacksonville, FL > > > > > > "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going > > > to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Sebastian Buck > > > <mail@sebastianbuck.name > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a > > > > silly question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one > > > > of my ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this > > > > feature > > > searches > > > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful > > > > when > > > adding > > > > a > > > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > > you're > > > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > > > Sebastian Buck > > > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: JCBrooks@aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > > Message-ID: <504da.238c0c2f.3edcb3df@aol.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > I agree this is confusing! > > > > > > There is a separate/different tool bar for Family Tree and > FamilySearch. > > > > > > When FamilySearch is in green in the left corner, mid-page you can see > > > Family Tree Photos Search. This Search gets you to the indexed > names > > > and > > > other resources. After signing in, Temple is added for LDS members > > > on this page, just to the right. > > > > > > After sign-in, and when the pedigree or fan chart appears, there > > > also appears a second tool bar below the first. It also contains > > > the word, Search. > > > This tool bar allow you to search within your own tree and most > > helpfully > > > by the Full name or PID numbers for each individuals. > > > > > > I have always thought that redundancy was odd as well. > > > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2013 6:41:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > mail@sebastianbuck.name writes: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a > > > silly question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of > > > my ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this > > > feature searches through all the billion names in the database. > > > This is helpful when > > adding > > > a > > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > > you're > > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > Sebastian Buck > > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:03:50 -0600 > > > From: "Jerry Cowley" <jbcowley@rmci.net> > > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ancient history > > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > > Message-ID: <000501ce5faa$c6440a70$52cc1f50$@net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > Good point, Steve. When I began in the late 50's, our instructions > > > were > > to > > > check at home, ask, and write letters. There wasn't much emphasis on > > > documentation, just information. I remember how tired my hand got > > > just copying information. The copy machine was a miracle as much as > > > the computer was. The emphasis on documentation came later, when > > > the church had all these 4 generation sheets that didn't agree... > > > > > > The church still allows some judiciously estimated information if > > > everything else is intact. I note that the new iteration of Family > > > Tree allows the addition of the words about, before, and after on > > > dates. That's a good thing because it alerts us to an estimation. > > > You can also add "of" before a location and it stays if you don't > > > click on the sync. But even with spelling variations, they want as > > > full a name as possible. With the mis-combinations, without > > > research, it's difficult to determine some relationships. So the > > > name is the key piece of identification, even for ceremonial > > > purposes. > > > > > > Some date guidelines I was taught for estimating--when all else fails: > > > Wife 4 years younger than husband > > > Marriage 1 year prior to first child First child 20 years younger > > > than mother, born 1 year after parents' > > > marriage > > > Next child, 2 years after first child, and so on > > > > > > Obviously there are exceptions in real life and real problems creep > > > in > > when > > > you try to apply these over more than one generation. So > > > documentation is far preferred. > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:09:37 -0600 > > > From: Steve Kelsey <sjkelsey@msn.com> > > > Subject: [LDS-WC] ancient history..... > > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1948B3DE78D330058AC1C36D1930@phx.gbl> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > > reply-type=original > > > > > > One must also remember that much of the early work was done from > > > memories and there was very little documentation available to these > early members. > > > My great grandfather's uncle did work for John Derry and others with > > > very little information as to who they were and in fact usually they > > > were > > listed > > > as "friends" rather than relatives. Since I know of at least 10 > > > people named John Derry who are relatives it was very difficult to > > > know which > > one > > > he did the work for. We are very, very blessed to have so much > > information > > > so easy to get at. Having spent many hours searching census records > > > on microfilm, or seaching the bmd indexes film by film for one > > > surname, or trying to make a pedigree from the wills and probates in > > > Herefordshire in the 1960's and 70's because the parish registers > > > were not available I > > know > > > what great strides we have made. One missing item which is not > > > online which I believe would be a great benefit for English research > > > is the post 1858 principal probate registry index for Great Britain > > > and I am surprised > > that > > > no one has considered putting it online as yet. > > > In fact when I started in 1952 I went to the basement of the old > > > Joseph Smith Building where the Relief Socity bldg is now. You had > > > to > > requisition > > > records at a window and sign them out. No copy machines==it was > > > family group sheets and a pencil and something for notes. I am > > > amazed at what > > our > > > early forebearers, great and great great grandparents did at getting > > temple > > > work done and how much they were able to do with how little they had. > > > > > > Steve Kelsey > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > > signature database 8403 (20130602) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email > > > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an > > > email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > > > the > > body > > > of the > > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 > > > *************************************************** > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >