Your point is a good one. That is one of the main reasons I use a personal database program on my own computer. I highly recommend using one to all the people I work with. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jaskolka Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 8:47 AM To: lds-ward-consultant Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 Understood, but it would be nice if there were some way to search those already connected to you in a known relationship. And then it would be really great to see how you are connected, especially if you are connected in more than one way. :) -Terri J. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Nancy Tychonievich <nansuty@gmail.com>wrote: > Even searching using the search within Family Tree, you are not searching > only "your" tree, since there really isn't any such thing in Family Tree. > The tree is collaborative. You will always be searching all names that > have > been entered into Family Tree. > > Sister Tychonievich > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:00 AM, <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com > >wrote: > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest > > version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please > remember > > to restrict the size of your post. > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Sebastian Buck) > > 2. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (Miles Meyer) > > 3. Re: Search feature doesn't make any sense to me (JCBrooks@aol.com) > > 4. Re: ancient history (Jerry Cowley) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 15:39:25 +0200 > > From: "Sebastian Buck" <mail@sebastianbuck.name> > > Subject: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <002b01ce5f96$9a203c20$ce60b460$@sebastianbuck.name> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > Hi, > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a silly > > question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of my > > ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this feature > searches > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > adding > > a > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > > you're > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > Sebastian Buck > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:37:20 -0400 > > From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > < > > CAB5+kWyeUb9EDzRxDGDWsoTovALbmBHDMtt-fE+eETrwEKzUNQ@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Use the Search function in the same line where it says Tree - Person - > > Search -- not the Search on the top line next to Photos > > > > Miles Meyer > > Jacksonville, FL > > > > "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to > > get > > better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Sebastian Buck <mail@sebastianbuck.name > > >wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a silly > > > question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of my > > > ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this feature > > searches > > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > > adding > > > a > > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > you're > > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > Sebastian Buck > > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) > > From: JCBrooks@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Search feature doesn't make any sense to me > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <504da.238c0c2f.3edcb3df@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > I agree this is confusing! > > > > There is a separate/different tool bar for Family Tree and > > FamilySearch. > > > > When FamilySearch is in green in the left corner, mid-page you can see > > Family Tree Photos Search. This Search gets you to the indexed > > names > > and > > other resources. After signing in, Temple is added for LDS members on > > this > > page, just to the right. > > > > After sign-in, and when the pedigree or fan chart appears, there also > > appears a second tool bar below the first. It also contains the word, > > Search. > > This tool bar allow you to search within your own tree and most > helpfully > > by the Full name or PID numbers for each individuals. > > > > I have always thought that redundancy was odd as well. > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2013 6:41:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > mail@sebastianbuck.name writes: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have never used this feature before so this might sound like a silly > > question. However I hope you can help me with that: > > > > I'm using FT and see the main tree. Now I want to search for one of my > > ancestors. I see the search feature. However it seems this feature > > searches > > through all the billion names in the database. This is helpful when > adding > > a > > new name in order to find duplicates but doesn't make any sense if > you're > > looking for one of your ancestors in your own personal tree. > > > > So is there a way to search only in your own data? > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > Sebastian Buck > > Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:03:50 -0600 > > From: "Jerry Cowley" <jbcowley@rmci.net> > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ancient history > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <000501ce5faa$c6440a70$52cc1f50$@net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Good point, Steve. When I began in the late 50's, our instructions were > to > > check at home, ask, and write letters. There wasn't much emphasis on > > documentation, just information. I remember how tired my hand got just > > copying information. The copy machine was a miracle as much as the > > computer > > was. The emphasis on documentation came later, when the church had all > > these 4 generation sheets that didn't agree... > > > > The church still allows some judiciously estimated information if > > everything > > else is intact. I note that the new iteration of Family Tree allows the > > addition of the words about, before, and after on dates. That's a good > > thing > > because it alerts us to an estimation. You can also add "of" before a > > location and it stays if you don't click on the sync. But even with > > spelling variations, they want as full a name as possible. With the > > mis-combinations, without research, it's difficult to determine some > > relationships. So the name is the key piece of identification, even for > > ceremonial purposes. > > > > Some date guidelines I was taught for estimating--when all else fails: > > Wife 4 years younger than husband > > Marriage 1 year prior to first child > > First child 20 years younger than mother, born 1 year after parents' > > marriage > > Next child, 2 years after first child, and so on > > > > Obviously there are exceptions in real life and real problems creep in > when > > you try to apply these over more than one generation. So documentation > > is > > far preferred. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:09:37 -0600 > > From: Steve Kelsey <sjkelsey@msn.com> > > Subject: [LDS-WC] ancient history..... > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1948B3DE78D330058AC1C36D1930@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > One must also remember that much of the early work was done from > > memories > > and there was very little documentation available to these early > > members. > > My great grandfather's uncle did work for John Derry and others with > > very > > little information as to who they were and in fact usually they were > listed > > as "friends" rather than relatives. Since I know of at least 10 people > > named John Derry who are relatives it was very difficult to know which > one > > he did the work for. We are very, very blessed to have so much > information > > so easy to get at. Having spent many hours searching census records on > > microfilm, or seaching the bmd indexes film by film for one surname, or > > trying to make a pedigree from the wills and probates in Herefordshire > > in > > the 1960's and 70's because the parish registers were not available I > know > > what great strides we have made. One missing item which is not online > > which > > I believe would be a great benefit for English research is the post 1858 > > principal probate registry index for Great Britain and I am surprised > that > > no one has considered putting it online as yet. > > In fact when I started in 1952 I went to the basement of the old Joseph > > Smith Building where the Relief Socity bldg is now. You had to > requisition > > records at a window and sign them out. No copy machines==it was family > > group sheets and a pencil and something for notes. I am amazed at what > our > > early forebearers, great and great great grandparents did at getting > temple > > work done and how much they were able to do with how little they had. > > > > Steve Kelsey > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature > > database 8403 (20130602) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email > > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 > > *************************************************** > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message