one thing I learned - DO NOT TRUST THOSE THIRD PARTY APPLICATIONS! I meant Insight, and other applications. They're sources of MIS-merges. I got an email that was really infuriating - from the support, questioning in a hard-ball way about using these 3rd party applications. From what I observed on my lines and others, some will merge on dates alone, other by names alone, etc without looking at FULL records. I am waiting for the support to restore "clickable" boxes for LHD4-J7Z Johann Adam Hay (3 different BRITISH Hays I need to expel from my German Hays and separate other Germans from my Johann Adam Hay) David Samuelsen On 3/29/2012 5:50 PM, Donald R. Snow wrote: > I'm glad you are helping a Snow, David. We need all the help we can > get. :=) As you point out, there are many things we still can't do in > FSFT and combining and separating is one of them. Even in nFS I still > can't combine all the Erastus Snow records since they form too large a > group. When we can get rid of all the duplication in there, it will > make the problem much easier to solve. One of the things I'm trying to > do now is get the Summaries correct and separate out wrong relationships > so they don't show incorrectly in FSFT. I think we'll just have to wait > until later to fix some things so we can have a record "worthy of all > acceptation". > > Don Snow > > > On 3/29/2012 5:21 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Speaking to Don Snow. >> >> You haven't see those mass-merged records, have you? I found so many >> of them and still working to separate so many of them. This AFFECTS >> your Tree. I will be meeting with your cousin tonight and he is going >> to throw monkey wrench in your tree with his efforts to separate his >> Snow line (Gardner Snow line.) >> >> I tried to fix one of my ancestors via Family Tree. NO CAN DO! There >> isn't a way to separate wrong persons OUT of my ancestor. Only in nFS >> and I checked with admin about it. It's only in nFS to do that. >> >> I had Thomas French combined with Richard Bartlett, Thomas Wyatt, >> William Cole, etc as single person. The combined record was of more >> than 6,000 records, 3/4 wrong. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >>> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? >>> I am with Michele. >>> >>> Steve Kelsey >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >>> To:<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >>> >>> >>>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >>>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >>>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >>>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >>>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >>>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >>>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >>>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >>>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >>>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >>>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >>>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >>>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >>>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >>>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >>>> >>>> Don Snow >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>>>> lot of >>>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>>>> >>>>> Michele >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>> >>>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>>>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>>>> >>>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>>>> place instead of nFS. >>>>> >>>>> David Samuelsen >>>>> >>>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>>>> Very handy. >>>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>>>> Is that still the plan? >>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the >>>>> subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Donald R. 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