There is clearly a computer problem here because, in my observation, names which have all ordinances requested through the temple file do not proceed as quickly from endowment to sealing. I constantly have a lot of ordinances outstanding and update my file once a month with Family Insight, so I keep a pretty close eye on how fast they are progressing. Does anyone know how soon they are going to return all those Legacy names and names that have been stalled for 5 years to the ready position? I have a least five hundred, perhaps more, of those sitting, sitting, sitting. Year after year after year. Michele In a message dated 3/24/2012 3:19:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: In my earlier email I meant to specifically state that I was requesting the endowments through temple file. Those are the ordinances which seem to have a conflict in how long between they are requested and processed. It is so easy to have the baptisms and confirmations completed with a week or two. The initiatories usually follow in another month. The endowments which we were discussing seem to take a varying amount of time. As I said earlier, I am waiting on the endowments for names in the general temple file from over 18 months but some I just assigned to the general temple file in the past month are being processed for their endowments. However, I have asked for sealing to parents ordinances and within minutes (literally 5 or 10 minutes) from being assigned to the general temple file, the sealing cards were being processed by a temple somewhere. Just wanted to clarify what I was wrote earlier this afternoon. Thanks for listening. Mary Scott Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Q: There is clearly a computer problem here because, in my observation, names which have all ordinances requested through the temple file do not proceed as quickly from endowment to sealing. I constantly have a lot of ordinances outstanding and update my file once a month with Family Insight, so I keep a pretty close eye on how fast they are progressing. A: When ordinances are assigned to the temple, they are done as the individual temple has time to complete them. It can take days or months, depending on how busy the temples are. There is not a method to determine how long it will take for a particular ordinance. When a temple needs ordinances, they will take the names that members assign to the temple before they take general extraction names. The system looks for ordinances in the following sequence: Individuals or records in that temple district. Individuals or records in other temple districts. Individuals or records contributed by the extraction program. When an ordinance has been completed for a name, the next ordinance is made available to the local temple and then to any temple needing a name. This process shortens the time between each ordinance. You may see the ordinances done in various temples around the world for the same person. Q: Does anyone know how soon they are going to return all those Legacy names and names that have been stalled for 5 years to the ready position? A: By Legacy do you mean those submissions by individuals who have not yet claimed Legacy, or your own submissions? If they are unclaimed Legacy submissions by other patrons and you can figure out who it is, you can contact them or do research to see if they are deceased. If you can find that it is a deceased patron, you can send Feedback to [email protected] and request that they be released because the patron is deceased. If they are your own Legacy submissions, you can claim them. There is not a time limit at this time but The Brethren are taking it into consideration. Q: The endowments which we were discussing seem to take a varying amount of time. As I said earlier, I am waiting on the endowments for names in the general temple file from over 18 months but some I just assigned to the general temple file in the past month are being processed for their endowments. A: In 2009, the way temple ordinance reservations were processed caused some to be pushed to the bottom of the list. As a result these 2009 submissions never move forward, while others submitted later are finished before them. The result is that these ordinances are hung up in the system. Due to the number of records affected by the problem, an engineering solution is unfeasible. To resolve the problem you must unreserve and then re-reserve these ordinances. This will resolve the problem and put the ordinances back in the proper order to be completed. Male endowments are known to take time.

Shanna Jones email included my situation and her response:   Q: The endowments which we were discussing seem to take a varying amount of time. As I said earlier, I am waiting on the endowments for names in the general temple file from over 18 months but some I just assigned to the general temple file in the past month are being processed for their endowments. A: In 2009, the way temple ordinance reservations were processed caused some to be pushed to the bottom of the list. As a result these 2009 submissions never move forward, while others submitted later are finished before them. The result is that these ordinances are hung up in the system. Due to the number of records affected by the problem, an engineering solution is unfeasible. To resolve the problem you must unreserve and then re-reserve these ordinances. This will resolve the problem and put the ordinances back in the proper order to be completed.   ******************   I feel a migraine coming on.   I now understand why the names from so long ago are anxiously waiting for their temple ordinances to be completed. So how come family history consultants were not made aware of the problem with the temple ordinance reservations being pushed to the bottom of the list? Was this situation explored, shared, detailed anywhere? Did NFS tell us about this problem?   I am amazed because how are we supposed to know what we are not told?   Furthermore, how are we supposed to help our ward members when we are not told the proper information or how to rectify it?   This is a matter of trust.   We have the faith that our general temple file names will be worked on but, if they are not going to be worked on, imagine the anguish on both sides of the veil!   Faith without works is dead ... guess I will be working on general temple file names for the rest of the year.   My computer freezes up everytime I release a name and then I have to load the ordinance list again. It takes me a very long time to release names from the ordinance list and then choose the names again for temple ordinances and then re-assign them to temple file instead of family file.    I may have snowy white hair by the time I complete this task. Yecks!   Mary Scott

I see a teaching moment here, so let me tell you how to find out what is new. Log into new.familysearch.org On the Welcome page, the first thing at the top of the page after it says Welcome Your Name is "What's New in FamilySearch" You will want to check that on a regular basis because each time something is updated and changed, it will be given there. I found the answers I gave in the Help Center by simply clicking on the Help Center, the last thing on that Welcome page. Then I typed in the search box "ordinances assigned to temple" and up came 25 results that gave the explanation in detail. Perhaps the most important thing we could teach our ward members is now to access and use the Help Center in new FamilySearch or at familysearch.org. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary S. Scott (Michigan) Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples Shanna Jones email included my situation and her response:   Q: The endowments which we were discussing seem to take a varying amount of time. As I said earlier, I am waiting on the endowments for names in the general temple file from over 18 months but some I just assigned to the general temple file in the past month are being processed for their endowments. A: In 2009, the way temple ordinance reservations were processed caused some to be pushed to the bottom of the list. As a result these 2009 submissions never move forward, while others submitted later are finished before them. The result is that these ordinances are hung up in the system. Due to the number of records affected by the problem, an engineering solution is unfeasible. To resolve the problem you must unreserve and then re-reserve these ordinances. This will resolve the problem and put the ordinances back in the proper order to be completed.   ******************   I feel a migraine coming on.   I now understand why the names from so long ago are anxiously waiting for their temple ordinances to be completed. So how come family history consultants were not made aware of the problem with the temple ordinance reservations being pushed to the bottom of the list? Was this situation explored, shared, detailed anywhere? Did NFS tell us about this problem?   I am amazed because how are we supposed to know what we are not told?   Furthermore, how are we supposed to help our ward members when we are not told the proper information or how to rectify it?   This is a matter of trust.   We have the faith that our general temple file names will be worked on but, if they are not going to be worked on, imagine the anguish on both sides of the veil!   Faith without works is dead ... guess I will be working on general temple file names for the rest of the year.   My computer freezes up everytime I release a name and then I have to load the ordinance list again. It takes me a very long time to release names from the ordinance list and then choose the names again for temple ordinances and then re-assign them to temple file instead of family file.    I may have snowy white hair by the time I complete this task. Yecks!   Mary Scott Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message