The submitters names sound foreign to me. Could it be that they are related? ----- Original Message ----- From: <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 203 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest > version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember > to restrict the size of your post. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: President Obama's mother's temple work done, > inappropriately (Jill N. Crandell) > 2. Re: Using Ancestry at FHC (Kathy Scott) > 3. Re: President Obama's mother's temple work done, > inappropriately (Nancy Scott) > 4. Re: What genealogy program do I select? (Whitcomb) > 5. Re: President Obama's mother's temple work done, > inappropriately (W. David Samuelsen) > 6. Re: What genealogy program do I select? (Gaylon Findlay) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:10:58 -0600 > From: "Jill N. Crandell" <jncrandell@broadweave.net> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] President Obama's mother's temple work done, > inappropriately > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <66AA0B794D21412884629850C9AAC90F@JILLS0033000064> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Paula asked: > But wouldn't nfs have prevented them from submitting the ordinance if it > wasn't linked into their tree? > > No, I don't think so. I do a lot of research that is not related to me, > and > I hate to see it "wasted" when it comes to ordinance work. I go ahead and > enter my research into NFS, not related to me, and it always asks if I > want > to submit the work. I have to tell the program no and hope that someone > related finds it someday. I have contacted the Church about this, because > if > they don't want people submitting work for unrelated people, they should > at > least stop asking if we want to do it!!!! > > Jill Crandell > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:19:07 +0100 > From: "Kathy Scott" <kathyscott1@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Using Ancestry at FHC > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F49F768F328345F98554EF83934B7CB8@KathyDell> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Sylvia, I do not know if you use Ancestry. com or like me ancestry.co.uk. > I > find that when I log out of co.uk at the Centre I need to log out of .com > as > well even though I did not log in there!! Weird. But it seems to work. > Kathy > p.s. I have just thought of a possible cause. I leave my Ancestry logged > on > at home do you think that makes a difference? Weird again! Kathy again! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia H. Sonneborn" <slysyl@verizon.net> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:09 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Using Ancestry at FHC > > >>I don't have problems using my subscription to Ancestry at the FHC, but I >> have a terrible time logging off as do others who use their subscription >> there. We have 4 computers, and the problem occurs on all the computers. >> Last Thursday I logged on, and there was the director's subscription. I >> know that she carefully logs out. I finally got her logged out after 3 >> attempts. Then I set up my own subscription, but I could not get it to >> log >> off nor could my husband. The consultant who works on Saturday finally >> got >> my subscription from Thurs. morning to log off Saturday. I don't know >> why >> we have this problem. Any ideas? >> Sylvia >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joan Raney >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:37 PM >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Using Ancestry at FHC >> >> I haven't gotten the error on page message, but I have to log off and >> click >> refresh 3 times before it will log me off. I don't understand that. I >> can >> logoff just fine at home. >> >> Joan in NC >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Nancy Gibert <nlgibert@ameritech.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Does anyone have problems using their own subscription to ancestry at >>> the >>> FHC? I am forever getting error on page message. Some things work but >>> it >>> is very frustrating. >>> Thanks >>> Nancy >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:28:50 -0400 > From: "Nancy Scott" <nascott@cinci.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] President Obama's mother's temple work done, > inappropriately > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000401c9cf52$6eefd890$4ccf89b0$@rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > You can just go into NFS and search on her name born in Kansas and come up > with the submitter, submitter's email, and a phone number as well. I did > that about an hour ago and the temple ordinances just say, "Not > Available". > > Nancy Scott > Cincinnati, Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paula > Goodfellow > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 03:58 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] President Obama's mother's temple work done, > inappropriately > > I'm wondering about the submitter. I'm guessing that it went through > the Temple Ready since it was done in Provo. But wouldn't nfs have > prevented them from submitting the ordinance if it wasn't linked into > their tree? I suppose they could have created a fake connection > somewhere, but that seems pretty far-fetched. Paula > On May 7, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Jill N. Crandell wrote: > >> I'd like to make a point that some may not have thought of with this >> situation. We don't know whether it was done appropriately or >> inappropriately, but we all suspect that the rules of contacting the >> nearest >> living relative were probably not followed. >> >> However, there is another disobedience that has also occurred. Helen >> Radkey >> gives the Church a lot of grief over these ordinances, and her >> ability to do >> that is because she has access to the ordinance information in the >> IGI. >> Notice that she knew the dates the work was done for Obama's mother. >> There >> is a member of the Church somewhere who is giving her access, which >> gives >> her the ability to create these news reports. Either someone has >> given her >> their sign-in and password to use as she pleases, or she is able to >> get >> someone at an FHC or the FHL to "help" her by signing in for her-- >> possibly >> not knowing who she is. As consultants, we all need to remember that >> the >> rules are in place for a reason, and if someone is unable to sign >> in, we >> should "help" them contact their ward clerk--not sign in for them. >> >> Jill Crandell >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:33:46 -0600 > From: Whitcomb <hwhitcomb@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <b14578d60905071333j47a87e7audfc18acec9ce493a@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > I just left another presentation on AQ here at the Family History Library. > One feature I had not paid any attention to.. but would be very useful > (one > time) is the ability to upload all your data to nFS. I know people that > have uploaded their GEDCOMs through the nFS website only to get the data > all > screwed up. > > When uploading through the website.. it does not check for existing > records, > which caused a mess for several FHC Directors and others when nFS came out > in Spain. > > I would like to hear if any other program does that. > > Alan W. > digging through the microfilms.. finding ancestors, problems, and making > new > friends. > > > > On 5/6/09, Helle Thor Hirschmann <helle@hirschmann.dk> wrote: >> >> Kathy is right! >> >> >> >> Find someone in the ward/your family who knows computers and has the >> patience to let YOU sit at the computer and let you work your way around. >> >> >> >> One learns absolutely nothing from seeing someone work at the computer. >> And >> what you do has to interest you. >> >> >> >> Which ever program you choose has to work properly. So from the ones >> mentioned here there is actually no difference in that respect. They work >> ok. And which to choose is a matter of preference. >> >> >> >> I was at a computer course once; the teacher suggested we tried on our >> own >> as far as we could go, when a problem surfaced consult the manual. If it >> did >> not work after extensive trying ? ?-call the nearest 14-year-old and >> watch >> closely!?. >> >> >> >> You may have genealogy knowledge and the other person computer knowledge >> ? >> swap. >> >> >> >> Helle >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >> Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] P? vegne af Kathy Scott >> Sendt: 6. maj 2009 22:55 >> Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? >> >> >> >> To all especially Harry, >> >> >> >> I am learning so much from what is being said, but I am also finding it >> >> difficult. Some of you guys are in a different place than I am and many >> of >> >> us, who are just getting our teeth into learning for ourselves and then >> >> teaching others. I so understand where Harry is coming from, not because >> >> the learning curve I am on is too difficult for me but it certainly has >> to >> >> be approached carefully when introducing and teaching nFS etc. to >> others. >> >> >> >> I am personally very interested in looking at other genealogy programs >> but >> I >> >> >> know, as a professional teacher, that it would blow the minds of those >> whom >> >> I teach at this point of time and I would never get them off the ground. >> I >> >> enjoy my PAF; it is my 'friend' and most important of all it is the >> 'friend' >> >> >> of most members over in England; those not using it or not comfortable >> >> with the computer I go along with what best suits them so that they will >> >> get hooked into the work. >> >> >> >> Harry you need a good teacher! Don't give up.And as far as 'age' is >> >> concerned You can't be older than I am! >> >> Kathy >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) >> Databaseversion: 6.12330 >> http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:48:09 -0600 > From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] President Obama's mother's temple work done, > inappropriately > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4A033AF9.3030901@sampubco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On second thought, any name that show up in IGI, it is already done in > Temples. > > His grandparents are still shown in IGI. (a chck in nFS shows same > submitter for Stanley Ann Dunham) > > David Samuelsen > > W. David Samuelsen wrote: >> That's a possibility! >> >> I know who to contact to let them know about this possibility. >> >> David >> >> Jill N. Crandell wrote: >>> I'd like to make a point that some may not have thought of with this >>> situation. We don't know whether it was done appropriately or >>> inappropriately, but we all suspect that the rules of contacting the >>> nearest >>> living relative were probably not followed. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:50:13 -0600 > From: Gaylon Findlay <gfindlay@ancquest.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4A0365A5.60506@ancquest.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Alan: > > Let me elaborate just a bit on this feature. You saw in the demo how to > upload one family at a time. There is a way to upload larger groups of > data in lieu of using GEDCOM. If you haven't watched it, go to > http://www.ancquest.com/Ver12-1Tutorials.htm and watch the video > entitled "Upload Data to NFS" -- about 7 minutes. This is a technique > you can use in AQ to get your PAF or GEDCOM data into nFS without using > the nFS GEDCOM upload. It compares all your local records with nFS > before the upload, so you only upload the records that are not already > in nFS. > > Gaylon > > > Whitcomb wrote: >> I just left another presentation on AQ here at the Family History >> Library. >> One feature I had not paid any attention to.. but would be very useful >> (one >> time) is the ability to upload all your data to nFS. I know people that >> have uploaded their GEDCOMs through the nFS website only to get the data >> all >> screwed up. >> >> When uploading through the website.. it does not check for existing >> records, >> which caused a mess for several FHC Directors and others when nFS came >> out >> in Spain. >> >> I would like to hear if any other program does that. >> >> Alan W. >> digging through the microfilms.. finding ancestors, problems, and making >> new >> friends. >> >> >> >> On 5/6/09, Helle Thor Hirschmann <helle@hirschmann.dk> wrote: >> >>> Kathy is right! >>> >>> >>> >>> Find someone in the ward/your family who knows computers and has the >>> patience to let YOU sit at the computer and let you work your way >>> around. >>> >>> >>> >>> One learns absolutely nothing from seeing someone work at the computer. >>> And >>> what you do has to interest you. >>> >>> >>> >>> Which ever program you choose has to work properly. So from the ones >>> mentioned here there is actually no difference in that respect. They >>> work >>> ok. And which to choose is a matter of preference. >>> >>> >>> >>> I was at a computer course once; the teacher suggested we tried on our >>> own >>> as far as we could go, when a problem surfaced consult the manual. If it >>> did >>> not work after extensive trying ? ?-call the nearest 14-year-old and >>> watch >>> closely!?. >>> >>> >>> >>> You may have genealogy knowledge and the other person computer knowledge >>> ? >>> swap. >>> >>> >>> >>> Helle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>> Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] P? vegne af Kathy >>> Scott >>> Sendt: 6. maj 2009 22:55 >>> Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >>> Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? >>> >>> >>> >>> To all especially Harry, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am learning so much from what is being said, but I am also finding it >>> >>> difficult. Some of you guys are in a different place than I am and many >>> of >>> >>> us, who are just getting our teeth into learning for ourselves and then >>> >>> teaching others. I so understand where Harry is coming from, not >>> because >>> >>> the learning curve I am on is too difficult for me but it certainly has >>> to >>> >>> be approached carefully when introducing and teaching nFS etc. to >>> others. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am personally very interested in looking at other genealogy programs >>> but >>> I >>> >>> >>> know, as a professional teacher, that it would blow the minds of those >>> whom >>> >>> I teach at this point of time and I would never get them off the ground. >>> I >>> >>> enjoy my PAF; it is my 'friend' and most important of all it is the >>> 'friend' >>> >>> >>> of most members over in England; those not using it or not comfortable >>> >>> with the computer I go along with what best suits them so that they >>> will >>> >>> get hooked into the work. >>> >>> >>> >>> Harry you need a good teacher! Don't give up.And as far as 'age' is >>> >>> concerned You can't be older than I am! >>> >>> Kathy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) >>> Databaseversion: 6.12330 >>> http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 203 > *************************************************** >