You can just go into NFS and search on her name born in Kansas and come up with the submitter, submitter's email, and a phone number as well. I did that about an hour ago and the temple ordinances just say, "Not Available". Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paula Goodfellow Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 03:58 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] President Obama's mother's temple work done, inappropriately I'm wondering about the submitter. I'm guessing that it went through the Temple Ready since it was done in Provo. But wouldn't nfs have prevented them from submitting the ordinance if it wasn't linked into their tree? I suppose they could have created a fake connection somewhere, but that seems pretty far-fetched. Paula On May 7, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Jill N. Crandell wrote: > I'd like to make a point that some may not have thought of with this > situation. We don't know whether it was done appropriately or > inappropriately, but we all suspect that the rules of contacting the > nearest > living relative were probably not followed. > > However, there is another disobedience that has also occurred. Helen > Radkey > gives the Church a lot of grief over these ordinances, and her > ability to do > that is because she has access to the ordinance information in the > IGI. > Notice that she knew the dates the work was done for Obama's mother. > There > is a member of the Church somewhere who is giving her access, which > gives > her the ability to create these news reports. Either someone has > given her > their sign-in and password to use as she pleases, or she is able to > get > someone at an FHC or the FHL to "help" her by signing in for her-- > possibly > not knowing who she is. As consultants, we all need to remember that > the > rules are in place for a reason, and if someone is unable to sign > in, we > should "help" them contact their ward clerk--not sign in for them. > > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message