Joan wrote: No, I had not reserved them. I had wanted to find more info. on them before I took them to the temple myself. Joan, You can reserve a name long before it's ready to go to the temple. We hear a lot of complaints from people who are irritated with how long a name is reserved, but if the name is already in the file, I personally prefer to reserve the name while I continue working on my research, and then it is available to me when I'm ready to submit it. However, I will warn you that if others get impatient, they can add a duplicate, submit the name, do the work, and then merge it with your file and you will not be able to do the work. After watching how all of this works, I have decided not to submit my data until it is ready for ordinance work. It is not only the issue of someone else taking your research and doing the work, it is also a situation where the temples can download names. If I don't have my research sufficiently proven yet, I don't want to risk the work being done inaccurately. Yes, we can correct our data after the work is done, but somehow it's hard for me to see the point of doing the ordinance work when we haven't yet sufficiently identified the individual. Yes, the computer will say there is enough information, but when there is more available to be more precise, I prefer to finish the research and then do the work. My plan is to add names and clear them for ordinance work all at the same time. Until then, I put all my research together in my private database. Every time I write something like this, I worry about people thinking I'm being selfish. However, it is possible for me to do research my whole life and never have the opportunity to perform any ordinances for the people I research. I have had multiple experiences of family members "mining" the Ancestral File, IGI, etc. in order to do temple work without doing the research themselves. I could put my research out there while I work on it, and it would never be there for me when the data was ready to submit. I just want to do the work for those that I research, and others can work wherever they want in the family to do the work for people they research. I hope that doesn't sound unreasonable. I share everything I have after the ordinance work is done, and I invite others to help with the ordinances occasionally as well. I would like to see more family members working the research end instead of just depending on me to provide everything for them. Jill Crandell

The guidelines from the Help Center state: How much time do I have to do the ordinances? There is no time limit for doing temple ordinances. But if you cannot do ordinances in a reasonable time, you should make the names available for others to do. As soon as ordinances are completed, the ordinance information will be available to you in the new FamilySearch. To release names that you have reserved (but have not printed the Family Ordinance Request), follow these steps: On the Home page, click the Temple Ordinances link. Or click the Temple Ordinances tab. Click the Make Names Available for Others to Do link. For each ordinance that you would like to make available for others to do, click the drop-down list, and click the Temple option. (The new FamilySearch will make these ordinances available for other Church members to do. Either a FamilySearch user will select the ordinances, or a temple will give the names to temple patrons.) Click the Done button. You will also be asked to do the following: Save your changes. You will see a pop-up message. To save your changes, click the OK button. Get permissions. For individuals who may have close living relatives, you will see instructions to ask permission from the nearest relative. Click the OK button, and get permission if it is needed. Combine duplicates. If there are any possible duplicate records, you will be asked to compare and combine any duplicates. Follow the instructions on the combine duplicates pages. When you are finished, click the Done button. To release names after you have printed the Family Ordinance Request, follow these steps: Take the Family Ordinance Request to the temple, and have the staff print the ordinance cards. Give the ordinance cards to others who will be able to do the ordinances, such as family members, ward members, or temple patrons. I had not thought of this avenue. I generally only reserve the names that I can finish in a 3-6 month period. The thought here is that you could reserve many names and then give the ordinance cards to others that you select. I think that we all have preferences that are best for our situation. Feeling the connection with a person after making the effort to research their name and wanting to complete the temple work does not sound selfish to me. It sounds to me as if you feel close to them, Jill. Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill N. Crandell Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 02:57 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Question Joan wrote: No, I had not reserved them. I had wanted to find more info. on them before I took them to the temple myself. Joan, You can reserve a name long before it's ready to go to the temple. We hear a lot of complaints from people who are irritated with how long a name is reserved, but if the name is already in the file, I personally prefer to reserve the name while I continue working on my research, and then it is available to me when I'm ready to submit it. However, I will warn you that if others get impatient, they can add a duplicate, submit the name, do the work, and then merge it with your file and you will not be able to do the work. After watching how all of this works, I have decided not to submit my data until it is ready for ordinance work. It is not only the issue of someone else taking your research and doing the work, it is also a situation where the temples can download names. If I don't have my research sufficiently proven yet, I don't want to risk the work being done inaccurately. Yes, we can correct our data after the work is done, but somehow it's hard for me to see the point of doing the ordinance work when we haven't yet sufficiently identified the individual. Yes, the computer will say there is enough information, but when there is more available to be more precise, I prefer to finish the research and then do the work. My plan is to add names and clear them for ordinance work all at the same time. Until then, I put all my research together in my private database. Every time I write something like this, I worry about people thinking I'm being selfish. However, it is possible for me to do research my whole life and never have the opportunity to perform any ordinances for the people I research. I have had multiple experiences of family members "mining" the Ancestral File, IGI, etc. in order to do temple work without doing the research themselves. I could put my research out there while I work on it, and it would never be there for me when the data was ready to submit. I just want to do the work for those that I research, and others can work wherever they want in the family to do the work for people they research. I hope that doesn't sound unreasonable. I share everything I have after the ordinance work is done, and I invite others to help with the ordinances occasionally as well. I would like to see more family members working the research end instead of just depending on me to provide everything for them. Jill Crandell Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message